Ternary scale theorems

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Revision as of 22:44, 1 January 2026 by Inthar (talk | contribs) (Replaced content with "=== Open questions === This heading has those open questions for which no conjecture has yet been formed either way. (These can be updated as necessary) # Given any arbitrary MOS scale with at least three notes per period, is there *always* a MV3 generator-offset scale which can be derived as a "detempering" of that scale? Or is this only true for some MOS's? For instance, the MOS '''LLsLLLs''' has the MV3 generator-offset scale '''LmsLmLs''' as a detempering. Does...")
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Open questions

This heading has those open questions for which no conjecture has yet been formed either way. (These can be updated as necessary)

  1. Given any arbitrary MOS scale with at least three notes per period, is there *always* a MV3 generator-offset scale which can be derived as a "detempering" of that scale? Or is this only true for some MOS's? For instance, the MOS LLsLLLs has the MV3 generator-offset scale LmsLmLs as a detempering. Does a similar MV3 detempering exist for every possible DE scale with at least three notes per period, or at least for strict MOS's with one period per octave (e.g. well-formed scales)?
    • Yes. For an axby MOS with gcd(a, b) = 1, if one of a and b is even, detemper x resp. y into two step sizes. The result is a 1-period odd-regular MV3. If neither is even, assume a > b. Then use (a - b)xbybz, which is a 1-period even-regular MV3 since gcd(a - b, b) = gcd(a, b) = 1.
  2. The scale tree is a great way to analyze MOS scales. For any generator, we can compute the various MOS's it forms if we simply look at the scale tree, and indeed MOS "words" like LLsLLLs can be identified with regions on the scale tree (in this situation the interval between 4/7 and 3/5). A similar "scale plane" should exist for generator-offset-MV3 scales, where given some word representing a generator-offset-MV3 scale, we can look at the set of points on the generator plane which generates it; these seem to often be triangles, with the lines corresponding to MOS's and the vertices corresponding to EDOs (though is this always true?). What is the big picture of this scale plane? Can we use Viggo Brun's algorithm for this, generalizing the theory of continued fractions? Is there some simple formula we can use to predict, given some generator-offset-MV3 scale, which region on the scale plane it corresponds to? Can we plot simple generator-size-proportions as points in this space? And so on.
  3. In the theory of MOS, there is a second scale tree that is less frequently talked about, which Erv Wilson calls the "Rabbit Sequence" (Erv Wilson's original version, interactive version 1, interactive version 2). This is a tree for which each MOS word has two children, depending on if the MOS is "soft" (with L/s < 2) or "hard" (with L/s > 2). For instance, LsLss has the two children LLsLLLs and ssLsssL. Does a similar scale plane exist for these generator-offset-MV3 scales?