Talk:Sagittal notation

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Add link to "sharp" in gallery

I'd like to suggest adding a link to the page 2187/2048 on the word "sharp" in the Spartan multi-shaft accidentals gallery. Since I'm not familiar with the sagittal gallery entry template, maybe someone could help achieving this. --Fredg999 (talk) 21:25, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Good idea. Done. I assume you only want "sharp" to be a link when it appears in the bottom row with no comma alteration, i.e. only for the and symbols. --Dave Keenan (talk) 02:11, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
Yes, that's perfect, thank you very much! --Fredg999 (talk) 02:26, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Dual-value harmonics (Sagittal edition)?

What notation should one use for systems with dual values for a harmonic? For instance, 55edo has a 7th harmonic that is far enough from just to merit interpretation as 7♯ with only mostly more raw error than 7♭, and the 7♯ would actually introduce less error in combination with the sharp (but not split) 5th harmonic, while 7♭ would introduce less error in combination withe flat 3rd and 11th harmonics or by itself. Similar situations occur with 48edo and 67edo with their split 5th harmonics, and with any dual-fifth system. (Posting this separately in Talk pages for Helmholtz-Ellis and Sagittal in case they have different answers.) Lucius Chiaraviglio (talk) 09:35, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

Primary and Secondary roles of glyphs?

On several pages describing an interval that can be tempered out as a comma or approximated as a chroma, I have seen text describing the Sagittal symbol for the interval, usually with reference to "primary" and "secondary" roles, yet the Sagittal notation page itself has no mention of such dual functionality. Anybody have an explanation of why and how the Sagittal symbols have primary and secondary roles? Also why some don't have this (for example 64/63 and 5120/5103), but some do (for instance, 28/27, 567/550, 1701/1664, 1053/1024, 2835/2816, and 40/39)? Which one is primary and which one is secondary doesn't always seem to correlate with how complicated the ratio is (with 28/27 and 40/9, the simpler ratio is considered secondary, whereas for the other ratios, the opposite is true). Lucius Chiaraviglio (talk) 09:35, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

Musescore

For such sagittal notations, MuseScore 3 can only achieve the highest precision up to Herculean Extension. At least I don't find anything about Olympian Extension and Magrathean Extension.

By the way, I thought that pakai() and pakao() was ↑ and ↓.

-- User:PrySigneToFexia at 12:25 2025.9.27 Sat (CST), talk at User talk:PrySigneToFexia