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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">**&lt;span style="color: #004d25; font-size: 20px;"&gt;41 Tone Equal Temperament&lt;/span&gt;**
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">**&lt;span style="color: #004d25; font-size: 20px;"&gt;41 Tone Equal Temperament&lt;/span&gt;**


The 41-tET, 41-EDO, or 41-ET, is the scale derived by dividing the octave into 41 equally-sized steps. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 29,268 [[cent]]s, an [[interval]] close in size to [[64_63|64/63]], the [[Septimal comma|septimal comma]]. 41-ET can be seen as a tuning of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismatic_temperament|Garibaldi temperament]] &lt;ref&gt;[http://x31eq.com/schismic.htm "Schismic Temperaments "], ''Intonation Information''.&lt;/ref&gt; , the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismatic_temperament|miracle temperament]], &lt;ref&gt;[http://x31eq.com/decimal_lattice.htm "Lattices with Decimal Notation"], ''Intonation Information''.&lt;/ref&gt; the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_temperament|magic temperament]] and the valentine (41&amp;26) temperament. It is the second smallest equal temperament (after [[29edo]]) whose perfect fifth is closer to just intonation than that of [[12edo|12-ET]], and is the seventh [[The Riemann Zeta Function and Tuning#Zeta EDO lists|zeta integral edo]] after 31; it is not, however, a [[The Riemann Zeta Function and Tuning#Zeta EDO lists|zeta gap edo]]. This has to do with the fact that it can deal with the [[11-limit]] fairly well, and the [[13-limit]] perhaps close enough for government work, though its [[13_10|13/10]] is 14 cents sharp.
The 41-tET, 41-EDO, or 41-ET, is the scale derived by dividing the octave into 41 equally-sized steps. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 29,268 [[cent]]s, an [[interval]] close in size to [[64_63|64/63]], the [[Septimal comma|septimal comma]]. 41-ET can be seen as a tuning of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismatic_temperament|Garibaldi temperament]] &lt;ref&gt;[[http://x31eq.com/schismic.htm|"Schismic Temperaments"]], //Intonation Information//&lt;/ref&gt; , the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismatic_temperament|miracle temperament]], &lt;ref&gt;[[http://x31eq.com/decimal_lattice.htm|"Lattices with Decimal Notation"]], //Intonation Information//&lt;/ref&gt; the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_temperament|magic temperament]] and the valentine (41&amp;26) temperament. It is the second smallest equal temperament (after [[29edo]]) whose perfect fifth is closer to just intonation than that of [[12edo|12-ET]], and is the seventh [[The Riemann Zeta Function and Tuning#Zeta EDO lists|zeta integral edo]] after 31; it is not, however, a [[The Riemann Zeta Function and Tuning#Zeta EDO lists|zeta gap edo]]. This has to do with the fact that it can deal with the [[11-limit]] fairly well, and the [[13-limit]] perhaps close enough for government work, though its [[13_10|13/10]] is 14 cents sharp.


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The 41-tET, 41-EDO, or 41-ET, is the scale derived by dividing the octave into 41 equally-sized steps. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 29,268 &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cent&lt;/a&gt;s, an &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/interval"&gt;interval&lt;/a&gt; close in size to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/64_63"&gt;64/63&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Septimal%20comma"&gt;septimal comma&lt;/a&gt;. 41-ET can be seen as a tuning of the &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismatic_temperament" rel="nofollow"&gt;Garibaldi temperament&lt;/a&gt; &lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextRefRule:1:&amp;amp;lt;ref&amp;amp;gt;[http://x31eq.com/schismic.htm &amp;amp;quot;Schismic Temperaments &amp;amp;quot;], ''Intonation Information''.&amp;amp;lt;/ref&amp;amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="#cite_note-1"&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextRefRule:1 --&gt; , the &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismatic_temperament" rel="nofollow"&gt;miracle temperament&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextRefRule:3:&amp;amp;lt;ref&amp;amp;gt;[http://x31eq.com/decimal_lattice.htm &amp;amp;quot;Lattices with Decimal Notation&amp;amp;quot;], ''Intonation Information''.&amp;amp;lt;/ref&amp;amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="#cite_note-2"&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextRefRule:3 --&gt; the &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_temperament" rel="nofollow"&gt;magic temperament&lt;/a&gt; and the valentine (41&amp;amp;26) temperament. It is the second smallest equal temperament (after &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/29edo"&gt;29edo&lt;/a&gt;) whose perfect fifth is closer to just intonation than that of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12-ET&lt;/a&gt;, and is the seventh &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/The%20Riemann%20Zeta%20Function%20and%20Tuning#Zeta EDO lists"&gt;zeta integral edo&lt;/a&gt; after 31; it is not, however, a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/The%20Riemann%20Zeta%20Function%20and%20Tuning#Zeta EDO lists"&gt;zeta gap edo&lt;/a&gt;. This has to do with the fact that it can deal with the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/11-limit"&gt;11-limit&lt;/a&gt; fairly well, and the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13-limit"&gt;13-limit&lt;/a&gt; perhaps close enough for government work, though its &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13_10"&gt;13/10&lt;/a&gt; is 14 cents sharp.&lt;br /&gt;
The 41-tET, 41-EDO, or 41-ET, is the scale derived by dividing the octave into 41 equally-sized steps. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 29,268 &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cent&lt;/a&gt;s, an &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/interval"&gt;interval&lt;/a&gt; close in size to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/64_63"&gt;64/63&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Septimal%20comma"&gt;septimal comma&lt;/a&gt;. 41-ET can be seen as a tuning of the &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismatic_temperament" rel="nofollow"&gt;Garibaldi temperament&lt;/a&gt; &lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextRefRule:3:&amp;amp;lt;ref&amp;amp;gt;&amp;lt;a class=&amp;quot;wiki_link_ext&amp;quot; href=&amp;quot;http://x31eq.com/schismic.htm&amp;quot; rel=&amp;quot;nofollow&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;quot;Schismic Temperaments&amp;amp;quot;&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;, &amp;lt;em&amp;gt;Intonation Information&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt;&amp;amp;lt;/ref&amp;amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="#cite_note-1"&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextRefRule:3 --&gt; , the &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismatic_temperament" rel="nofollow"&gt;miracle temperament&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextRefRule:7:&amp;amp;lt;ref&amp;amp;gt;&amp;lt;a class=&amp;quot;wiki_link_ext&amp;quot; href=&amp;quot;http://x31eq.com/decimal_lattice.htm&amp;quot; rel=&amp;quot;nofollow&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;quot;Lattices with Decimal Notation&amp;amp;quot;&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;, &amp;lt;em&amp;gt;Intonation Information&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt;&amp;amp;lt;/ref&amp;amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"&gt;&lt;a href="#cite_note-2"&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextRefRule:7 --&gt; the &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_temperament" rel="nofollow"&gt;magic temperament&lt;/a&gt; and the valentine (41&amp;amp;26) temperament. It is the second smallest equal temperament (after &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/29edo"&gt;29edo&lt;/a&gt;) whose perfect fifth is closer to just intonation than that of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12-ET&lt;/a&gt;, and is the seventh &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/The%20Riemann%20Zeta%20Function%20and%20Tuning#Zeta EDO lists"&gt;zeta integral edo&lt;/a&gt; after 31; it is not, however, a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/The%20Riemann%20Zeta%20Function%20and%20Tuning#Zeta EDO lists"&gt;zeta gap edo&lt;/a&gt;. This has to do with the fact that it can deal with the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/11-limit"&gt;11-limit&lt;/a&gt; fairly well, and the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13-limit"&gt;13-limit&lt;/a&gt; perhaps close enough for government work, though its &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13_10"&gt;13/10&lt;/a&gt; is 14 cents sharp.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;41-EDO Classical guitar, by Ron Sword.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;41-EDO Classical guitar, by Ron Sword.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A possible system to tune keyboards in 41EDO is discussed in &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/74155" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/74155&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
A possible system to tune keyboards in 41EDO is discussed in &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/74155" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/74155&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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  41edo is the first edo to do some justice to Mode 8 of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/OverToneSeries"&gt;harmonic series&lt;/a&gt;, which Dante Rosati calls the &amp;quot;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/overtone%20scales"&gt;Diatonic Harmonic Series Scale&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;quot; consisting of overtones 8 through 16 (sometimes made to repeat at the octave).&lt;br /&gt;
  41edo is the first edo to do some justice to Mode 8 of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/OverToneSeries"&gt;harmonic series&lt;/a&gt;, which Dante Rosati calls the &amp;quot;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/overtone%20scales"&gt;Diatonic Harmonic Series Scale&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;quot; consisting of overtones 8 through 16 (sometimes made to repeat at the octave).&lt;br /&gt;
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The scale in 41, as adjacent steps, thus goes: 7 6 6 5 5 4 4 4.&lt;br /&gt;
The scale in 41, as adjacent steps, thus goes: 7 6 6 5 5 4 4 4.&lt;br /&gt;
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  Taking every third degree of 41edo produces a scale extremely close to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/88cET"&gt;88cET&lt;/a&gt; or 88-cent equal temperament (or the 8th root of 3:2). Likewise, taking every fifth degree produces a scale very close to the equal-tempered &lt;span class="wiki_link_new"&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/BP"&gt;Bohlen-Pierce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/BP"&gt; Scale&lt;/a&gt; (or the 13th root of 3). See chart:&lt;br /&gt;
  Taking every third degree of 41edo produces a scale extremely close to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/88cET"&gt;88cET&lt;/a&gt; or 88-cent equal temperament (or the 8th root of 3:2). Likewise, taking every fifth degree produces a scale very close to the equal-tempered &lt;span class="wiki_link_new"&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/BP"&gt;Bohlen-Pierce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/BP"&gt; Scale&lt;/a&gt; (or the 13th root of 3). See chart:&lt;br /&gt;
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  &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/41_equal_temperament" rel="nofollow"&gt;Wikipedia article on 41edo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Magic22%20as%20srutis#magic22assrutis"&gt;Magic22 as srutis&lt;/a&gt; describes a possible use of 41edo for &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/indian"&gt;indian&lt;/a&gt; music.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;see also &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Magic%20family"&gt;Magic family&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sword, Ron.&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.ronsword.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"&gt; &amp;quot;Tetracontamonophonic Scales for Guitar&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextReferencesRule:2202: --&gt;&lt;hr class="references" /&gt;&lt;ol class="references"&gt;
  &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/41_equal_temperament" rel="nofollow"&gt;Wikipedia article on 41edo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Magic22%20as%20srutis#magic22assrutis"&gt;Magic22 as srutis&lt;/a&gt; describes a possible use of 41edo for &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/indian"&gt;indian&lt;/a&gt; music.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;see also &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Magic%20family"&gt;Magic family&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sword, Ron.&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.ronsword.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"&gt; &amp;quot;Tetracontamonophonic Scales for Guitar&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextReferencesRule:2206: --&gt;&lt;hr class="references" /&gt;&lt;ol class="references"&gt;
&lt;li id="cite_note-1"&gt;&lt;a href="#cite_ref-1"&gt;^&lt;/a&gt; [&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://x31eq.com/schismic.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://x31eq.com/schismic.htm&lt;/a&gt; &amp;quot;Schismic Temperaments &amp;quot;], ''Intonation Information''.&lt;/li&gt;
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