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*based on treating 15-EDO as an 11-limit temperament; other approaches are possible | *based on treating 15-EDO as an 11-limit temperament; other approaches are possible | ||
In [[Ups and Downs Notation#Summary%20of%20EDO%20notation-%22Pentatonic%22%20EDOs|ups and downs notation]], which is fifth-generated, every 15edo note has at least three names. 15edo can be notated | In [[Ups and Downs Notation#Summary%20of%20EDO%20notation-%22Pentatonic%22%20EDOs|ups and downs notation]], which is fifth-generated, every 15edo note has at least three names. 15edo can also be notated using the [[Ups and Downs Notation#Natural%20Generators|natural generator]], which is not the 9\15 5th but the 2\15 2nd, also known as porcupine notation. The 15edo porcupine genchain is: | ||
...A6 - A7 - A1 - A2 - M3 - M4 - M5 - M6 - P7 - P1 - P2 - m3 - m4 - m5 - m6 - d7 - d8 - d2 - d3... | ...A6 - A7 - A1 - A2 - M3 - M4 - M5 - M6 - P7 - P1 - P2 - m3 - m4 - m5 - m6 - d7 - d8 - d2 - d3... | ||
||= EDOstep ||= cents ||= ups and downs | ||= EDOstep ||= cents ||= ups and downs relative notation | ||
relative notation ||= ups and downs | (partial list, e.g. M2 is also A1 and d4) ||= ups and downs | ||
absolute notation ||= porcupine | absolute notation ||= porcupine | ||
relative notation ||= porcupine | relative notation ||= porcupine | ||
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||= 0 ||= 0¢ ||= unison, min 2nd ||= C# / D / Eb ||= unison ||= D || | ||= 0 ||= 0¢ ||= unison, min 2nd ||= C# / D / Eb ||= unison ||= D || | ||
||= 1 ||= 80¢ ||= up-unison, upminor 2nd ||= C#^ / D^ / Eb^ ||= aug unison, dim 2nd ||= D# / Eb || | ||= 1 ||= 80¢ ||= up-unison, upminor 2nd ||= C#^ / D^ / Eb^ ||= aug unison, dim 2nd ||= D# / Eb || | ||
||= 2 ||= 160¢ ||= downaug | ||= 2 ||= 160¢ ||= downaug unison, downmajor 2nd ||= D#v / Ev / Fv / Gbv ||= perf 2nd ||= E || | ||
||= 3 ||= 240¢ ||= | ||= 3 ||= 240¢ ||= maj 2nd, min 3rd ||= D# / E / F / Gb ||= aug 2nd, dim 3rd ||= E# / Fb || | ||
||= 4 ||= 320¢ ||= | ||= 4 ||= 320¢ ||= upmin 3rd ||= D#^ / E^ / F^ / Gb^ ||= min 3rd ||= F || | ||
||= 5 ||= 400¢ ||= downmaj 3rd | ||= 5 ||= 400¢ ||= downmaj 3rd ||= F#v / Gv / Abv ||= maj 3rd ||= F# / Gb || | ||
||= 6 ||= 480¢ ||= maj 3rd, perf 4th, dim 5th ||= F# / G / Ab ||= min 4th ||= G || | ||= 6 ||= 480¢ ||= maj 3rd, perf 4th, dim 5th ||= F# / G / Ab ||= min 4th ||= G || | ||
||= 7 ||= 560¢ ||= | ||= 7 ||= 560¢ ||= up 4th, updim 5th ||= F#^ / G^ / Ab^ ||= maj 4th ||= G# / Abb || | ||
||= 8 ||= 640¢ ||= downaug 4th, down 5th | ||= 8 ||= 640¢ ||= downaug 4th, down 5th ||= G#v / Av / Bbv ||= min 5th ||= Gx / Ab || | ||
||= 9 ||= 720¢ ||= aug 4th, perf 5th, min 6th ||= G# / A / Bb ||= maj 5th ||= A || | ||= 9 ||= 720¢ ||= aug 4th, perf 5th, min 6th ||= G# / A / Bb ||= maj 5th ||= A || | ||
||= 10 ||= 800¢ ||= | ||= 10 ||= 800¢ ||= up 5th, upmin 6th ||= G#^ / A^ / Bb^ ||= min 6th ||= A# / Bb || | ||
||= 11 ||= 880¢ ||= downaug 5th, downmaj 6th | ||= 11 ||= 880¢ ||= downaug 5th, downmaj 6th ||= A#v / Bv / Cv / Dbv ||= maj 6th ||= B || | ||
||= 12 ||= 960¢ ||= | ||= 12 ||= 960¢ ||= maj 6th, min 7th ||= A# / B / C / Db ||= aug 6th, dim 7th ||= B# / Cb || | ||
||= 13 ||= 1040¢ ||= | ||= 13 ||= 1040¢ ||= upmin 7th ||= A#^ / B^ / C^ / Db^ ||= perf 7th ||= C || | ||
||= 14 ||= 1120¢ ||= downmaj 7th, down octave | ||= 14 ||= 1120¢ ||= downmaj 7th, down octave ||= C#v / Dv / Ebv ||= aug 7th, dim 8ve ||= C# / Db || | ||
||= 15 ||= 1200¢ ||= maj 7th, octave, min 9th ||= C# / D / Eb ||= 8ve ||= D || | ||= 15 ||= 1200¢ ||= maj 7th, octave, min 9th ||= C# / D / Eb ||= 8ve ||= D || | ||
15edo chord names using ups and downs: | |||
0-3-9 = D F A = Dm = "D minor" (or possibly D E A = Dsus2) | |||
0-4-9 = D F^ A = D.^m = "D upminor" | |||
0-5-9 = D F#v A = D.v = "D dot down" or "D downmajor" | |||
0-6-9 = D F# A = D = "D" or "D major" (or possibly D G A = Dsus4) | |||
0-3-9-12 = D F A C = Dm7 = "D minor seven", or D F A B = Dm6 = "D minor six" | |||
0-4-9-12 = D F^ A C = Dm7(^3) = "D minor seven up-three", or D F^ A B = Dm6(^3) = "D minor six up-three" | |||
0-5-9-12 = D F#v A C = D7(v3) = "D seven down-three", or D F#v A B = D6(v3) = "D six down-three" | |||
0-6-9-12 = D F# A C = D7 = "D seven", or D F# A B = D6 = "D six" | |||
0-5-9-14 = D F#v A C#v = D.vM7 = "D downmajor seven" | |||
0-4-9-13 = D F^ A C^ = D.^m7 = "D dot up minor-seven", or D F^ A B^ = D.^m6 = "D dot up minor-six" | |||
For a more complete list, see [[Ups and Downs Notation#Chord%20names%20in%20other%20EDOs|Ups and Downs Notation - Chord names in other EDOs]]. Because many intervals have several names, many chords do too. | |||
15-EDO offers some minor improvements over 12-TET in ratios of 5 (particularly in 6/5 and 5/3), and has a much better approximation to the 7th and 11th harmonics, but its approximation to the 3rd harmonic is rather off. However, the particular way in which this approximation is off is as much a feature as it is a bug, for it allows the construction of a 5L5s MOS scale wherein every note of the scale can serve as a root for a 7-limit otonal or utonal tetrad, as well as either a 5-limit major or minor 7th chord. This is known as Blackwood temperament, named after Easley Blackwood, Jr., who is the first to document its existence. It has also been written on extensively by [[IgliashonJones|Igliashon Jones]] in the paper "[[http://www.cityoftheasleep.com/etc/5nEDOs.pdf|Five is Not an Odd Number]]". For an in-depth treatment of harmony in 15-edo based on this temperament (and its 7- and 11-limit extensions), see [[@Harmony in 15edo Blacksmith|Harmony in 15edo Blacksmith[10]]]. | 15-EDO offers some minor improvements over 12-TET in ratios of 5 (particularly in 6/5 and 5/3), and has a much better approximation to the 7th and 11th harmonics, but its approximation to the 3rd harmonic is rather off. However, the particular way in which this approximation is off is as much a feature as it is a bug, for it allows the construction of a 5L5s MOS scale wherein every note of the scale can serve as a root for a 7-limit otonal or utonal tetrad, as well as either a 5-limit major or minor 7th chord. This is known as Blackwood temperament, named after Easley Blackwood, Jr., who is the first to document its existence. It has also been written on extensively by [[IgliashonJones|Igliashon Jones]] in the paper "[[http://www.cityoftheasleep.com/etc/5nEDOs.pdf|Five is Not an Odd Number]]". For an in-depth treatment of harmony in 15-edo based on this temperament (and its 7- and 11-limit extensions), see [[@Harmony in 15edo Blacksmith|Harmony in 15edo Blacksmith[10]]]. | ||
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*based on treating 15-EDO as an 11-limit temperament; other approaches are possible<br /> | *based on treating 15-EDO as an 11-limit temperament; other approaches are possible<br /> | ||
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In <a class="wiki_link" href="/Ups%20and%20Downs%20Notation#Summary%20of%20EDO%20notation-%22Pentatonic%22%20EDOs">ups and downs notation</a>, which is fifth-generated, every 15edo note has at least three names. 15edo can be notated | In <a class="wiki_link" href="/Ups%20and%20Downs%20Notation#Summary%20of%20EDO%20notation-%22Pentatonic%22%20EDOs">ups and downs notation</a>, which is fifth-generated, every 15edo note has at least three names. 15edo can also be notated using the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Ups%20and%20Downs%20Notation#Natural%20Generators">natural generator</a>, which is not the 9\15 5th but the 2\15 2nd, also known as porcupine notation. The 15edo porcupine genchain is:<br /> | ||
...A6 - A7 - A1 - A2 - M3 - M4 - M5 - M6 - P7 - P1 - P2 - m3 - m4 - m5 - m6 - d7 - d8 - d2 - d3...<br /> | ...A6 - A7 - A1 - A2 - M3 - M4 - M5 - M6 - P7 - P1 - P2 - m3 - m4 - m5 - m6 - d7 - d8 - d2 - d3...<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">cents<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">cents<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">ups and downs <br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">ups and downs relative notation<br /> | ||
(partial list, e.g. M2 is also A1 and d4)<br /> | |||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">ups and downs<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">ups and downs<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">160¢<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">160¢<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">downaug | <td style="text-align: center;">downaug unison, downmajor 2nd<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">D#v / Ev / Fv / Gbv<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">D#v / Ev / Fv / Gbv<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">240¢<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">240¢<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;"> | <td style="text-align: center;">maj 2nd, min 3rd<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">D# / E / F / Gb<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">D# / E / F / Gb<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">320¢<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">320¢<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;"> | <td style="text-align: center;">upmin 3rd<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">D#^ / E^ / F^ / Gb^<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">D#^ / E^ / F^ / Gb^<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">400¢<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">400¢<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">downmaj 3rd | <td style="text-align: center;">downmaj 3rd<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">F#v / Gv / Abv<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">F#v / Gv / Abv<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">560¢<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">560¢<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;"> | <td style="text-align: center;">up 4th, updim 5th<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">F#^ / G^ / Ab^<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">F#^ / G^ / Ab^<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">640¢<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">640¢<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">downaug 4th, down 5th | <td style="text-align: center;">downaug 4th, down 5th<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">G#v / Av / Bbv<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">G#v / Av / Bbv<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">800¢<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">800¢<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;"> | <td style="text-align: center;">up 5th, upmin 6th<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">G#^ / A^ / Bb^<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">G#^ / A^ / Bb^<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">880¢<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">880¢<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">downaug 5th, downmaj 6th | <td style="text-align: center;">downaug 5th, downmaj 6th<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">A#v / Bv / Cv / Dbv<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">A#v / Bv / Cv / Dbv<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">960¢<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">960¢<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;"> | <td style="text-align: center;">maj 6th, min 7th<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">A# / B / C / Db<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">A# / B / C / Db<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">1040¢<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">1040¢<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;"> | <td style="text-align: center;">upmin 7th<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">A#^ / B^ / C^ / Db^<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">A#^ / B^ / C^ / Db^<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">1120¢<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">1120¢<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">downmaj 7th, down octave | <td style="text-align: center;">downmaj 7th, down octave<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">C#v / Dv / Ebv<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">C#v / Dv / Ebv<br /> | ||
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</table> | </table> | ||
15edo chord names using ups and downs:<br /> | |||
0-3-9 = D F A = Dm = &quot;D minor&quot; (or possibly D E A = Dsus2)<br /> | |||
0-4-9 = D F^ A = D.^m = &quot;D upminor&quot;<br /> | |||
0-5-9 = D F#v A = D.v = &quot;D dot down&quot; or &quot;D downmajor&quot;<br /> | |||
0-6-9 = D F# A = D = &quot;D&quot; or &quot;D major&quot; (or possibly D G A = Dsus4)<br /> | |||
0-3-9-12 = D F A C = Dm7 = &quot;D minor seven&quot;, or D F A B = Dm6 = &quot;D minor six&quot;<br /> | |||
0-4-9-12 = D F^ A C = Dm7(^3) = &quot;D minor seven up-three&quot;, or D F^ A B = Dm6(^3) = &quot;D minor six up-three&quot;<br /> | |||
0-5-9-12 = D F#v A C = D7(v3) = &quot;D seven down-three&quot;, or D F#v A B = D6(v3) = &quot;D six down-three&quot;<br /> | |||
0-6-9-12 = D F# A C = D7 = &quot;D seven&quot;, or D F# A B = D6 = &quot;D six&quot;<br /> | |||
0-5-9-14 = D F#v A C#v = D.vM7 = &quot;D downmajor seven&quot;<br /> | |||
0-4-9-13 = D F^ A C^ = D.^m7 = &quot;D dot up minor-seven&quot;, or D F^ A B^ = D.^m6 = &quot;D dot up minor-six&quot;<br /> | |||
For a more complete list, see <a class="wiki_link" href="/Ups%20and%20Downs%20Notation#Chord%20names%20in%20other%20EDOs">Ups and Downs Notation - Chord names in other EDOs</a>. Because many intervals have several names, many chords do too.<br /> | |||
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15-EDO offers some minor improvements over 12-TET in ratios of 5 (particularly in 6/5 and 5/3), and has a much better approximation to the 7th and 11th harmonics, but its approximation to the 3rd harmonic is rather off. However, the particular way in which this approximation is off is as much a feature as it is a bug, for it allows the construction of a 5L5s MOS scale wherein every note of the scale can serve as a root for a 7-limit otonal or utonal tetrad, as well as either a 5-limit major or minor 7th chord. This is known as Blackwood temperament, named after Easley Blackwood, Jr., who is the first to document its existence. It has also been written on extensively by <a class="wiki_link" href="/IgliashonJones">Igliashon Jones</a> in the paper &quot;<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.cityoftheasleep.com/etc/5nEDOs.pdf" rel="nofollow">Five is Not an Odd Number</a>&quot;. For an in-depth treatment of harmony in 15-edo based on this temperament (and its 7- and 11-limit extensions), see <a class="wiki_link" href="/Harmony%20in%2015edo%20Blacksmith" target="_blank">Harmony in 15edo Blacksmith[10</a>].<br /> | 15-EDO offers some minor improvements over 12-TET in ratios of 5 (particularly in 6/5 and 5/3), and has a much better approximation to the 7th and 11th harmonics, but its approximation to the 3rd harmonic is rather off. However, the particular way in which this approximation is off is as much a feature as it is a bug, for it allows the construction of a 5L5s MOS scale wherein every note of the scale can serve as a root for a 7-limit otonal or utonal tetrad, as well as either a 5-limit major or minor 7th chord. This is known as Blackwood temperament, named after Easley Blackwood, Jr., who is the first to document its existence. It has also been written on extensively by <a class="wiki_link" href="/IgliashonJones">Igliashon Jones</a> in the paper &quot;<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.cityoftheasleep.com/etc/5nEDOs.pdf" rel="nofollow">Five is Not an Odd Number</a>&quot;. For an in-depth treatment of harmony in 15-edo based on this temperament (and its 7- and 11-limit extensions), see <a class="wiki_link" href="/Harmony%20in%2015edo%20Blacksmith" target="_blank">Harmony in 15edo Blacksmith[10</a>].<br /> | ||