User:FloraC/Temperament extension issues: Difference between revisions

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: 7-limit → 11-limit

: 11-limit hendecatonic should be decanonicalized. See the case with misty.

: Proposed solution:

; Keemun

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: 17-limit → 19-limit

: 19-limit ketchup should be decanonicalized. Ketchup should be a no-19 23-limit temperament.

: Proposed solution:

: Proposed solution: replace 19- and 23-limit ketchup with no-19 23-limit. Status: pending community reaction.

; Leapday

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: 11-limit misty should be decanonicalized. Misty is more naturally a 2.3.5.7.17.19-subgroup temperament. Besides, 99 & 111, 99ef & 111, and 87 & 99 are all competitive extensions. Proposing these extensions as murky (87 & 99ef), smoky (87 & 99), hazy (99 & 111), and ashy (99ef & 111).

: Proposed solution: 11-, 13-, 17-, and 19-limit misty → murky, delete mystic (87 & 99e). Status: done.

; Nessafof

: 7-limit → 11-limit

: 11-limit nessafof should be decanonicalized. Extending nessafof to the 11-limit is complicated since both 84edo and 99edo have ambiguous interpretations (see the case with parakleismic). Currently we have catalogued the two low-complexity 15-form extensions, which makes sense. One is being called ''nessa'' so the other may simply be ''fof''.

: Proposed solution: 11-limit nessafof → fof. Status: pending community reaction.

; Pajara

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: 7-limit → 11-limit

: 11-limit parakleismic should be decanonicalized. Extending parakleismic to the 11- and 13-limit is complicated, mainly cuz both 99edo and 118edo have ambiguous interpretations, but paralytic (99e & 118) is the "main" extension here, since septimal parakleismic is really an interpolation between 99 and 118, with 217 giving a good middle ground. Note that 217 is more accurate than both 99 and 118 in the 7-limit, showing that the optimum isn't very near 99. Paralytic uses the 19e val, which is reasonable, and the other extensions zigzag around this segment: 80 & 99e, called paradigmic, 118 & 137d, which is our "undecimal parakleismic" tho the optimum is sharp of 87\118, making it 99 & 118, and finally 61de & 80, called parkleismic, tho the optimum is flat of 59\80, making it 80 & 99.

: Paralytic has four notable 13-limit extensions: 99ef & 118, 99e & 118, 99ef & 118f, and 99e & 118f. Note that 99e & 118 and 99ef & 118f are the more accurate ones, supported by 217, and the other two are less accurate, but use the simpler 19e form in the 13-limit. The 13-odd-limit Graham complexities of 99e & 118 and 99ef & 118f are 157 and 142, respectively, showing that 99e & 118 isn't simpler than 99ef & 118f; thus 13-limit paralytic needs a distinct name too.

: Paralytic has four notable 13-limit extensions: 99ef & 118, 99e & 118, 99ef & 118f, and 99e & 118f. Note that 99e & 118 and 99ef & 118f are the more accurate ones, supported by 217, and the other two are less accurate, but use the simpler 19e-form in the 13-limit. The 13-odd-limit Graham complexities of 99e & 118 and 99ef & 118f are 157 and 142, respectively, showing that 99e & 118 isn't simpler than 99ef & 118f; thus 13-limit paralytic needs a distinct name too.

: Paradigmic has two notable 13-limit extensions: 80 & 99e and 80 & 99ef, and like above, 80 & 99e is the simpler 19-form whereas 80 & 99ef is more accurate. 80 & 99ef also supports 13-limit parapyth, which is an extra point. It follows that 13-limit paradigmic needs a distinct name too.

: Proposed solution:

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 : 7-limit → 11-limit
 : 11-limit hendecatonic should be decanonicalized. See the case with misty.
+: Proposed solution:
 ; Keemun
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 : 17-limit → 19-limit
 : 19-limit ketchup should be decanonicalized. Ketchup should be a no-19 23-limit temperament.
-: Proposed solution:
+: Proposed solution: replace 19- and 23-limit ketchup with no-19 23-limit. Status: pending community reaction.
 ; Leapday
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 : 11-limit misty should be decanonicalized. Misty is more naturally a 2.3.5.7.17.19-subgroup temperament. Besides, 99 & 111, 99ef & 111, and 87 & 99 are all competitive extensions. Proposing these extensions as murky (87 & 99ef), smoky (87 & 99), hazy (99 & 111), and ashy (99ef & 111).
 : Proposed solution: 11-, 13-, 17-, and 19-limit misty → murky, delete mystic (87 & 99e). Status: done.
+; Nessafof
+: 7-limit → 11-limit
+: 11-limit nessafof should be decanonicalized. Extending nessafof to the 11-limit is complicated since both 84edo and 99edo have ambiguous interpretations (see the case with parakleismic). Currently we have catalogued the two low-complexity 15-form extensions, which makes sense. One is being called ''nessa'' so the other may simply be ''fof''.
+: Proposed solution: 11-limit nessafof → fof. Status: pending community reaction.
 ; Pajara
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 : 7-limit → 11-limit
 : 11-limit parakleismic should be decanonicalized. Extending parakleismic to the 11- and 13-limit is complicated, mainly cuz both 99edo and 118edo have ambiguous interpretations, but paralytic (99e & 118) is the "main" extension here, since septimal parakleismic is really an interpolation between 99 and 118, with 217 giving a good middle ground. Note that 217 is more accurate than both 99 and 118 in the 7-limit, showing that the optimum isn't very near 99. Paralytic uses the 19e val, which is reasonable, and the other extensions zigzag around this segment: 80 & 99e, called paradigmic, 118 & 137d, which is our "undecimal parakleismic" tho the optimum is sharp of 87\118, making it 99 & 118, and finally 61de & 80, called parkleismic, tho the optimum is flat of 59\80, making it 80 & 99.
-: Paralytic has four notable 13-limit extensions: 99ef & 118, 99e & 118, 99ef & 118f, and 99e & 118f. Note that 99e & 118 and 99ef & 118f are the more accurate ones, supported by 217, and the other two are less accurate, but use the simpler 19e form in the 13-limit. The 13-odd-limit Graham complexities of 99e & 118 and 99ef & 118f are 157 and 142, respectively, showing that 99e & 118 isn't simpler than 99ef & 118f; thus 13-limit paralytic needs a distinct name too.
+: Paralytic has four notable 13-limit extensions: 99ef & 118, 99e & 118, 99ef & 118f, and 99e & 118f. Note that 99e & 118 and 99ef & 118f are the more accurate ones, supported by 217, and the other two are less accurate, but use the simpler 19e-form in the 13-limit. The 13-odd-limit Graham complexities of 99e & 118 and 99ef & 118f are 157 and 142, respectively, showing that 99e & 118 isn't simpler than 99ef & 118f; thus 13-limit paralytic needs a distinct name too.
 : Paradigmic has two notable 13-limit extensions: 80 & 99e and 80 & 99ef, and like above, 80 & 99e is the simpler 19-form whereas 80 & 99ef is more accurate. 80 & 99ef also supports 13-limit parapyth, which is an extra point. It follows that 13-limit paradigmic needs a distinct name too.
 : Proposed solution: