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A list of issues with temperament extensions. | A list of issues with temperament extensions. | ||
== Rank-2 temperaments == | |||
; Alphatrident | ; Alphatrident | ||
: 7-limit → 11-limit | : 7-limit → 11-limit | ||
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; Magus | ; Magus | ||
: 7-limit → 5-limit | : 7-limit → 5-limit | ||
: 5-limit magus should be decanonicalized. The 5-limit temperament's optimum is between 43edo and 46edo, which corresponds to the tuning range of amigo, not magus. | : 5-limit magus should be decanonicalized. The 5-limit temperament's optimum is between 43edo and 46edo, which corresponds to the tuning range of amigo (43 & 46), not magus (46 & 49). | ||
; Pajara | ; Pajara | ||
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: 11-limit → 13-limit | : 11-limit → 13-limit | ||
: 13-limit secund should be decanonicalized, for the other extension is obviously way better. | : 13-limit secund should be decanonicalized, for the other extension is obviously way better. | ||
== Rank-3 temperaments == | |||
; Artemis | |||
: 11-limit → 13-limit | |||
: 13-limit artemis should be decanonicalized, as diana is a very competitive extension. This is a series of awkward cases related to orwell, which doesn't have a simple and accurate 13-limit extension, but since the more accurate one, 31 & 53, was dubbed tridecimal orwell over the simpler 22f & 31, these rank-3 temperaments should not be utterly at odds with that. Related temperaments include guanyin and zeus, both go with the 31 & 53 path. | |||
; Big brother | |||
: 11-limit → 13-limit | |||
: 13-limit big brother should be decanonicalized. See the case with artemis. | |||
; Laka | ; Laka | ||
Revision as of 14:28, 30 November 2025
A list of issues with temperament extensions.
Rank-2 temperaments
- Alphatrident
- 7-limit → 11-limit
- 11-limit alphatrident should be decanonicalized. The tuning is not very representative of 7-limit alphatrident. Specifically, alphatrident has three 11-limit extensions: 176 & 217, 217 & 282, and 282 & 335d. The first and last are supported by 53 which means they are simpler, but they are not representative of the 7-limit optimum. The middle one is representative of the 7-limit optimum, but is very complex. Therefore, the situation is similar to slendric, where none of the extensions should be canon.
- Augmented/augene
- 5-limit → 7-limit
- 7-limit augene should be canonicalized while 13-limit augene should be decanonicalized. Tempering out 126/125 is natural for diaschismic, augmented and diminished, and since both diaschismic and diminished have canonical 7-limit extensions, so should augmented. The name augene may be relegated to the 13-limit extension cuz that one is quite bad.
- Dicot
- 5-limit → 7-limit
- 7-limit dicot should be decanonicalized. It has been clear that it's difficult to discuss these as a single temperament.
- Keemun
- 11-limit → 13-limit
- 13-limit keemun should be decanonicalized. Kema, which maps prime 13 to +14 steps, is the right extension to use, as in all kleismic temperaments.
- Ketchup
- 17-limit → 19-limit
- 19-limit ketchup should be decanonicalized. Ketchup should be a no-19 23-limit temperament.
- Leapday
- 17-limit → 19-limit
- 19-limit leapday should be decanonicalized. Leapday should be a no-19 23-limit temperament.
- Magus
- 7-limit → 5-limit
- 5-limit magus should be decanonicalized. The 5-limit temperament's optimum is between 43edo and 46edo, which corresponds to the tuning range of amigo (43 & 46), not magus (46 & 49).
- Pajara
- 11-limit → 13-limit
- 13-limit pajara should be decanonicalized. It's way too inaccurate. Pajara should be a no-13 17-limit temperament.
- Secund
- 11-limit → 13-limit
- 13-limit secund should be decanonicalized, for the other extension is obviously way better.
Rank-3 temperaments
- Artemis
- 11-limit → 13-limit
- 13-limit artemis should be decanonicalized, as diana is a very competitive extension. This is a series of awkward cases related to orwell, which doesn't have a simple and accurate 13-limit extension, but since the more accurate one, 31 & 53, was dubbed tridecimal orwell over the simpler 22f & 31, these rank-3 temperaments should not be utterly at odds with that. Related temperaments include guanyin and zeus, both go with the 31 & 53 path.
- Big brother
- 11-limit → 13-limit
- 13-limit big brother should be decanonicalized. See the case with artemis.
- Laka
- 13-limit → 17-limit
- 17-limit laka should be decanonicalized. Laka should be a no-17 19-limit temperament.
- Marvel
- 11-limit → 13-limit
- 13-limit marvel should be decanonicalized. Hecate is a very competitive extension.
- Starling
- 7-limit → 11-limit
- 11-limit starling should be decanonicalized. Thrush is a better extension.