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: Not sure what you are confused about here. Formal primes have little to do with this page.
: Not sure what you are confused about here. Formal primes have little to do with this page.
: – [[User:Sintel|Sintel🎏]] ([[User_talk:Sintel|talk]]) 19:34, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
: – [[User:Sintel|Sintel🎏]] ([[User_talk:Sintel|talk]]) 19:34, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
:: Not sure why you said formal primes had little to do with this page. A formal prime is a JI subgroup basis element, whose tuning is given by each entry of the tuning map. What else could each entry of the tuning map represent? [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 20:57, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
: The formal primes are said w.r.t. the JI subgroup. There's nothing to generalize. Magic's formal primes are 2, 3, 5, and 7. Magic's generators are ~2 and ~5/4. Perhaps you're confused by the terminology. Then let's say ''basis element of the JI subgroup'', okay? [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 20:57, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
: <small>P.S. pls remember to sign your comment with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>. </small>


== Misleading pseudoinverse ==
== Misleading pseudoinverse ==

Revision as of 20:57, 15 April 2025

"Generator tuning map"

In the intro, it says a tuning map has one entry for each basis element (---> generator) of the temperament. This is also the best generalization of the concept of "formal primes" to a temperament, yet the page makes a distinction between tuning maps based on generators and on formal primes, for some reason, even though I'm pretty sure such a distinction is entirely meaningless.

Not sure what you are confused about here. Formal primes have little to do with this page.
Sintel🎏 (talk) 19:34, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
Not sure why you said formal primes had little to do with this page. A formal prime is a JI subgroup basis element, whose tuning is given by each entry of the tuning map. What else could each entry of the tuning map represent? FloraC (talk) 20:57, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
The formal primes are said w.r.t. the JI subgroup. There's nothing to generalize. Magic's formal primes are 2, 3, 5, and 7. Magic's generators are ~2 and ~5/4. Perhaps you're confused by the terminology. Then let's say basis element of the JI subgroup, okay? FloraC (talk) 20:57, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
P.S. pls remember to sign your comment with ~~~~.

Misleading pseudoinverse

The use of the pseudoinverse here is kind of misleading since it is given:

[math]\displaystyle{ \begin{align} T &= GM\\ G &= TM^{+} \end{align} }[/math]

Which immediately leads to a contradiction if we substitute:

[math]\displaystyle{ T = GM = TM^{+}M \neq T }[/math]


since the pseudoinverse is only a right-inverse.

Sintel🎏 (talk) 20:14, 15 April 2025 (UTC)