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: ''See also [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Conventions|Conventions]], [[Wikifuture]], [[Migration FAQ]] as well as [[:Category:Todo]] and its subcategories.''  
: ''See also [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Conventions|Conventions]], [[Wikifuture]], [[Migration FAQ]] as well as [[:Category:Todo]] and its subcategories.''  
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== Details to fill out in articles ==
* Interval pages like [[3/2]]
** ''<Please write what may still be desired>''
* ''<Other kinds of pages>''
== Archiving outdated discussions ==
Discussion pages tend to become confusing over time. The sections at the beginning are often long since finished. This tendency is easy to observe, but hardly anyone knows how to archive outdated articles.
We probably need some templates to support archiving. Moving old sections to subpage(s) is not as hard, but a bit of automatic decoration/guidance/navigation would help people to do this.
Automated archiving would be nice, but not essential in the first place.
== Infobox for EDO pages ==
In EDO pages (see for example [[23edo]], [[74edo]], [[167edo]]), core information is currently still given in prose, which makes it difficult to get this information together. Adding another infobox template would help to present and manage the formal information.
At the moment, we tend to include of these core characteristics
* step count
* step size
* patent val
Join our discussion: [[Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Things to do #Infobox for EDO pages]]
== Categories of interval pages ==
There are lots of interval pages in the wiki, for example [[3/2]], [[8/7]], [[25/24]], [[11/8]]... We developed an info box that brings the core features together. Still  open is the question which category name would fit best for all of them. We currently observe a seemingly random mix of
* [[:Category:Interval]]
* [[:Category:Ratio]]
* [[:Category:Interval ratio]]
* [[:Category:Just interval]]
At present, it appears that we will replace most of them with [[:Category:Rational intervals]]" in the future.
Please join our discussion in [[Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Things to do #Relations of various interval categories]]! Thanks 🙂
== Proposal: Shorten editing titles ==
:'''''The proposed change is currently being evaluated. Please share your experiences on the [[Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Things to do #Shorten editing titles|discussion page]].'''''
When using tabbed browsing, long identical prefixes (like ''Editing '') in titles make it hard to differentiate tabs of wiki pages currently being edited.
{| class="wikitable"
! system message
! predefined text
! suggested text
|-
| [[MediaWiki:Editing]]
| Editing $1
| <code>✎ $1</code>
|-
| [[MediaWiki:Editingcomment]]
| Editing $1 (new section)
| <code>✎ $1 (new section)</code>
|-
| [[MediaWiki:Editingsection]]
| Editing $1 (section)
| <code>✎ $1 (section)</code>
|}
The icon, which is colored by itself (✎), appears in black and white (<tt>✎</tt>) within headings of editing views and in browser tabs.
What do you think about the proposed change?
Join the discussion at [[Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Things to do #Shorten editing titles]]


== Get rid of "alternative pages" ==
== Get rid of "alternative pages" ==


There are some pages that were mostly started out of frustration of on particular user not any more active in this wiki. The problem with diverging pages about the same topic is that linking to it tends to break or at least dissipate the consistency of the entire wiki. As normally would be the case with pages targeting the same topic but created by chance, the content should be merged into the (mostly obvious) main page. If there is noting valuable on it, the pages should be deleted. The pages are currently in the [[:Category:Alternative pages]]. For discussing deletion etc, we should refrain from doing that on the respective discussion pages, because deletion will remove these as well. We'd better open an own page for discussion deletion.
There are some pages that were mostly started out of frustration of on particular user not any more active in this wiki. The problem with diverging pages about the same topic is that linking to it tends to break or at least dissipate the consistency of the entire wiki. As normally would be the case with pages targeting the same topic but created by chance, the content should be merged into the (mostly obvious) main page. If there is noting valuable on it, the pages should be deleted. The pages are currently in the [[:Category:Alternative pages]]. For discussing deletion etc, we should refrain from doing that on the respective discussion pages, because deletion will remove these as well. We'd better open an own page for discussion deletion. [[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 14:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


: I took a look at these. The edo pages are a relic of a discussion on facebook about the proper format for edo pages. Sort of useful. I suggest deleting all but the 15edo-a page and Gareth's page. The 94-edo page might have some good stuff, but since it's 94edo and 15edo jumbled together, it's also really confusing. This is what I suggest, but I don't feel I have the authority to actually delete someone's page. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 03:05, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
: I took a look at these. The edo pages are a relic of a discussion on facebook about the proper format for edo pages. Sort of useful. I suggest deleting all but the 15edo-a page and Gareth's page. The 94-edo page might have some good stuff, but since it's 94edo and 15edo jumbled together, it's also really confusing. This is what I suggest, but I don't feel I have the authority to actually delete someone's page. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 03:05, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
: Mostly done, only [[User:Lhearne/15edo]] left, and since it's in the user namespace, it's not as problematic. Still waiting for a reply from Lillian, I might give a poke on Discord. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 07:51, 26 July 2023 (UTC)


== Place to discuss deletion requests ==
== Place to discuss deletion requests ==
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Sometimes it's not easy to decide if a page should be deleted or not, it has to be discussed first. The problem with discussing deletion requests on the discussion page of the page being questioned is that they both have the same future. If the deletion happens, normal users have no access to the reasoning any more. Most wikis use an extra page for this purpose.
Sometimes it's not easy to decide if a page should be deleted or not, it has to be discussed first. The problem with discussing deletion requests on the discussion page of the page being questioned is that they both have the same future. If the deletion happens, normal users have no access to the reasoning any more. Most wikis use an extra page for this purpose.


The so-called project namespace (in this wiki it's indicated by the prefix <code>Xenharmonic Wiki:</code>) is dedicated to that purpose, see [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=4 pages currently in the project namespace].
The so-called project namespace (in this wiki it's indicated by the prefix <code>Xenharmonic Wiki:</code>) is dedicated to that purpose, see [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=4 pages currently in the project namespace]. [[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 15:08, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 
: Wikipedia needs to handle a lot of page deletions, and in particular a lot of page deletion discussions. For more modest needs like ours, maybe we could create the talk page of [[:Category:Pages nominated for deletion]] (therefore [[:Category talk:Pages nominated for deletion]]) and create a topic per request on that page. If the page has a long backlog over time, we can create archive pages to avoid cluttering the active page too much. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 07:51, 26 July 2023 (UTC)


== Disambiguation project ==
== Disambiguation project ==


There is a project [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Disambiguation]] that aims to build the tools we need. Please join the work and [[Talk:Xenharmonix Wiki:Disambiguation|discuss]] related issues.
There is a project [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Disambiguation]] that aims to build the tools we need. Please join the work and [[Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Disambiguation|discuss]] related issues. [[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 11:38, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 
== Naming articles ==
 
To reflect our current efforts, a ''#Naming articles'' section should be added to [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Conventions]]. Please review, rework, and/or [[Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Things to do#Naming articles|discuss]] following draft:


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: I created [[Template:About]] a while ago for disambiguation hatnotes. I'll try to work on a simple help page soon. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 07:51, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
Wiki pages should follow the usual English capitalization rules, except for the very first character, which is automatically capitalized by the wiki software. This means that words inside the title are written in lower case, except for proper names.
 
Currently, there is still a mixture of styles that has historical reasons: In the beginning, titles were started in WikiCase because the Wikispaces software used at that time automatically linked such words. Later, the configuration was adjusted so that links were only created if this was specified by appropriate markup. Here, the titles started to look like titles, but to a large extent also with the usual capitalization of all meaningful words for titles (book titles). Then came the switch to MediaWiki with new features that were only slowly adapted (redirects, categories, etc.). Meanwhile, we have moved on to making full use of the wiki software's support. Thus a) pages are always linked regardless of the upper and lower case of the first character (e.g. <code><nowiki>[[Cent]] == [[cent]]</nowiki></code> &rarr; [[Cent]] == [[cent]]) and b) characters that are appended after the link markup are included in the link label (e.g. <code><nowiki>[[cent]]s == [[cent|cents]]</nowiki></code> &rarr; [[cent]]s == [[cent|cents]]). This way, links can usually be embedded in the text without much effort.
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== 13-Limit, 17-Limit and 19-Limit Comma Pages ==
== 13-Limit, 17-Limit and 19-Limit Comma Pages ==
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Please join the discussion in ''[[Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Things to do#Improve accessibility of wiki and present info in a non-technical way]]''!
Please join the discussion in ''[[Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Things to do#Improve accessibility of wiki and present info in a non-technical way]]''!
: [[Template:Inaccessible]] can now be used to warn readers of pages that may be difficult to understand, while also reminding wiki editors that these pages need work by placing these pages in [[:Category:Inaccessible pages]]. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 07:51, 26 July 2023 (UTC)


=== Reorganize temperament pages ===
=== Reorganize temperament pages ===
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=== General-audience temperament pages ===
=== General-audience temperament pages ===
== Odd harmonics table instead of prime harmonics for edos ==
Suggestion: use [[User:Inthar/Template:Harmonics in edo]] instead of [[Template:Primes in edo]].
This can be discussed in [[Xenharmonic Wiki talk: Things to do #Odd harmonics table instead of prime harmonics for edos]]