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The tuning is pretty meaningless as far as pitches go, since there's only 7-8 steps of it in the entire human hearing range, but it has a real life equivalence to astronomy - each step of it is known as the Pogson's ratio and it has an application of being the factor which sets two stars being 1 magnitude apart. This means subdividing it makes a meaningful major tenth of 1594.525 cents.
The tuning is pretty meaningless as far as pitches go, since there's only 7-8 steps of it in the entire human hearing range, but it has a real life equivalence to astronomy - each step of it is known as the Pogson's ratio and it has an application of being the factor which sets two stars being 1 magnitude apart. This means subdividing it makes a meaningful major tenth of 1594.525 cents.


===Scale tree===
 
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! colspan="3" |Generator
! |<span style="display: block; text-align: center;">'''Generator size (cents) '''</span>
!<span style="display: block; text-align: center;">'''Generator size (ed4\3)'''</span>
! |Pentachord steps
! |Comments
|-
| |4\35
| |
| |
| |<u>911.157…</u>
|''914.285…''
| |<nowiki>1 1|1 0</nowiki>
| |
|-
|25\220
|
|
|<u>905.980…</u>
|''909.{{Overline|09}}''
|<nowiki>6 6|6 1</nowiki>
|
|-
| |21\185
| |
| |
| |<u>905.000…</u>
|''908.{{Overline|108}}''
| |<nowiki>5 5|5 1</nowiki>
| |
|-
|
|38\335
|
|<u>904.357…</u>
|''907.462…''
|<nowiki>9 9|9 2</nowiki>
|
|-
| |17\150
| |
| |
| |<u>903.564…</u>
|''906.{{Overline|6}}''
| |<nowiki>4 4|4 1</nowiki>
| |L/s = 4
|-
| |
| |30\265
| |
| |<u>902.561…</u>
|''905.660…''
| |<nowiki>7 7|7 2</nowiki>
| |
|-
|
|
|73\645
|<u>902.328…</u>
|''905.426…''
|<nowiki>17 17|17 5</nowiki>
|
|-
| |
| |43\380
| |
| |<u>902.165…</u>
|''905.263…''
| |<nowiki>10 10|10 3</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |56\495
| |
| |<u>901.953…</u>
|''905.{{Overline|05}}''
| |<nowiki>13 13|13 4</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |69\610
| |
| |<u>901.921…</u>
|''904.918…''
| |<nowiki>16 16|16 5</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |82\725
| |
| |<u>901.731…</u>
|''904.827…''
| |<nowiki>19 19|19 6</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |95\840
| |
| |<u>901.666…</u>
|''904.761…''
| |<nowiki>22 22|22 7</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |
| |
| |<u>901.662…</u>
|''904.758…''
| |<nowiki>π π|π 1</nowiki>
| |L/s = π
|-
| |
| |108\955
| |
| |<u>901.616…</u>
|''904.712…''
| |<nowiki>25 25|25 8</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |121\1070
| |
| |<u>901.577…</u>
|''904.672…''
| |<nowiki>28 28|28 9</nowiki>
| |28;9 Superdiatonic 1/28-tone
|-
| |
| |134\1185
| |
| |<u>901.546…</u>
|''904.642…''
| |<nowiki>31 31|31 10</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |13\115
| |
| |
| |<u>901.235…</u>
|''904.347…''
| |<nowiki>3 3|3 1</nowiki>
| |Terra Rubra 1/3-tone
|-
| |
| |126\1115
| |
| |<u>900.942…</u>
|''904.035…''
| |<nowiki>29 29|29 10</nowiki>
| |Terra Rubra <span style="font-size: 12.8000001907349px;"><big>1/29-tone</big></span>
|-
| |
| |113\1000
| |
| |<u>900.906…</u>
|''904''
| |<nowiki>26 26|26 9</nowiki>
| |Terra Rubra <span style="font-size: 12.8000001907349px;"><big>1/26-tone</big></span>
|-
| |
| |100\885
| |
| |<u>900.861…</u>
|''903.954…''
| |<nowiki>23 23|23 8</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |87\770
| |
| |<u>900.803…</u>
|''903.896…''
| |<nowiki>20 20|20 7</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |74\655
| |
| |<u>900.724…</u>
|''903.816…''
| |<nowiki>17 17|17 6</nowiki>
| |Terra Rubra 1/17-tone
|-
| |
| |61\840
| |
| |<u>915</u>
|''900.611…''
| |<nowiki>14 14|14 5</nowiki>
| |Terra Rubra 1/14-tone
|-
| |
| |
| |109\965
| |<u>914.685…</u>
|''900.535…''
| |<nowiki>25 25|25 9</nowiki>
| |Terra Rubra 1/25-tone
|-
| |
| |48\425
| |
| |<u>900.437…</u>
|''903.529…''
| |<nowiki>11 11|11 4</nowiki>
| |Terra Rubra 1/11-tone
|-
| |
| |
| |
| |<u>900.324…</u>
|''903.415…''
| |<nowiki>e e|e 1</nowiki>
| |L/s = e
|-
| |
| |35\310
| |
| |<u>900.135…</u>
|''903.225…''
| |<nowiki>8 8|8 3</nowiki>
| |Terra Rubra 1/8-tone
|-
| |
| |
| |92\815
| |<u>899.977…</u>
|''903.067…''
| |<nowiki>21 21|21 8</nowiki>
| |21;8 Superdiatonic 1/21-tone
|-
| |
| |
| |
| |<u>899.950…</u>
|''903.040…''
| |<span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><nowiki>φ+1 φ+1|φ+1 1</nowiki></span>
| |Split φ superdiatonic relation (34;13 - 55;21 - 89;34 - 144;55 - 233;89 - 377;144 - 610;233..)
|-
| |
| |
| |57\505
| |<u>899.880…</u>
|''902.970…''
| |<nowiki>13 13|13 5</nowiki>
| |13;5 Superdiatonic 1/13-tone
|-
|
|
|79\700
|<u>899.767…</u>
|''902.857…''
|<nowiki>18 18|18 7</nowiki>
|
|-
| |
| |22\195
| |
| |<u>899.475…</u>
|''902.564…''
| |<nowiki>5 5|5 2</nowiki>
| |Terra Rubra 1/5-tone
|-
| |
| |
| |75\665
| |<u>899.168…</u>
|''902.255…''
| |<nowiki>17 17|17 7</nowiki>
| |17;7 Superdiatonic 1/17-tone
|-
| |
| |
| |53\470
| |<u>899.040…</u>
|''902.127…''
| |<nowiki>12 12|12 5</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |31\275
| |
| |<u>898.732…</u>
|''901.{{Overline|81}}''
| |<nowiki>7 7|7 3</nowiki>
| |7;3 Superdiatonic 1/7-tone
|-
|
|
|71\630
|<u>898.502…</u>
|''901.587…''
|<nowiki>16 16|16 7</nowiki>
|
|-
| |
| |40\355
| |
| |<u>898.324…</u>
|''901.408…''
| |<nowiki>9 9|9 4</nowiki>
| |9;4 Superdiatonic 1/9-tone
|-
| |
| |49\435
| |
| |<u>898.066…</u>
|''901.149…''
| |<nowiki>11 11|11 5</nowiki>
| |11;5 Superdiatonic 1/11-tone
|-
| |
| |58\515
| |
| |<u>897.888…</u>
|''900.970…''
| |<nowiki>13 13|13 6</nowiki>
| |13;6 Superdiatonic 1/13-tone
|-
| |9\80
| |
| |
| |<u>896.920…</u>
|''900''
| |<nowiki>2 2|2 1</nowiki>
| |<span style="display: block; text-align: left;">'''[BOUNDARY OF PROPRIETY: smaller generators are strictly proper]'''</span>
|-
|
|68\605
|
|<u>896.096…</u>
|''899.173…''
|<nowiki>15 15|15 8</nowiki>
|
|-
| |
| |59\525
| |
| |<u>895.971…</u>
|''899.047…''
| |<nowiki>13 13|13 7</nowiki>
| |Terra Rubra 1/13-tone
|-
| |
| |50\445
| |
| |<u>895.800…</u>
|''898.876…''
| |<nowiki>11 11|11 6</nowiki>
| |Terra Rubra 1/11-tone
|-
| |
| |41\365
| |
| |<u>895.555…</u>
|''898.630…''
| |<nowiki>9 9|9 5</nowiki>
| |Terra Rubra 1/9-tone
|-
| |
| |32\285
| |
| |<u>895.172…</u>
|''898.245…''
| |<nowiki>7 7|7 4</nowiki>
| |Terra Rubra 1/7-tone <span style="font-size: 12.8000001907349px;">(the 'Commatic' version of Terra Rubra, because its high accuracy of the 16/15 interval, the note '2b')</span>
|-
| |
| |
| |
| |<u>895.030…</u>
|''898.102…''
| |<span style="background-color: #ffffff;"><nowiki>√3 √3|√3 1</nowiki></span>
| |
|-
| |
| |
| |55\490
| |<u>894.886…</u>
|''897.959…''
| |<nowiki>12 12|12 7</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |
| |78\695
| |<u>894.769…</u>
|''897.841…''
| |<nowiki>17 17|17 10</nowiki>
| |Terra Rubra 1/17-tone
|-
| |
| |23\205
| |
| |<u>894.489…</u>
|''897.560…''
| |<nowiki>5 5|5 3</nowiki>
| |5;3 Golden Terra Rubra 1/5-tone
|-
|
|
|83\740
|<u>894.227…</u>
|''897.{{Overline|297}}''
|<nowiki>18 18|18 11</nowiki>
|
|-
| |
| |
| |60\535
| |<u>894.126…</u>
|''897.196…''
| |<nowiki>13 13|13 8</nowiki>
| |13;8 Golden Terra Rubra 1/13-tone
|-
| |
| |
| |
| |<u>894.064…</u>
|''897.133…''
| |<span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><nowiki>φ φ|φ 1</nowiki></span>
| |GOLDEN Terra Rubra (L/s = <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: small;">φ)</span>
|-
| |
| |
| |97\865
| |<u>894.040…</u>
|''897.109…''
| |<nowiki>21 21|21 13</nowiki>
| |21;13 Golden Terra Rubra 1/21-tone
|-
| |
| |37\330
| |
| |<u>893.900…</u>
|''896.{{Overline|96}}''
| |<nowiki>8 8|8 5</nowiki>
| |8;5 Golden Terra Rubra 1/8-tone
|-
|
|
|88\785
|<u>893.746…</u>
|''896.815…''
|<nowiki>19 19|19 12</nowiki>
|
|-
| |
| |51\455
| |
| |<u>893.635…</u>
|''896.703…''
| |<nowiki>11 11|11 7</nowiki>
| |11;7 Superdiatonic 1/11-tone
|-
| |
| |
| |
| |<u>893.629…</u>
|''896.697…''
| |<nowiki>π π|π 2</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |
| |116\1035
| |<u>893.550…</u>
|''896.618…''
| |<nowiki>25 25|25 16</nowiki>
| |25;16 Superdiatonic 1/25-tone
|-
| |
| |65\580
| |
| |<u>893.484…</u>
|''896.551…''
| |<nowiki>14 14|14 9</nowiki>
| |14;9 Superdiatonic 1/14-tone
|-
| |
| |79\705
| |
| |<u>893.386…</u>
|''896.453…''
| |<nowiki>17 17|17 11</nowiki>
| |17;11 Superdiatonic 1/17-tone
|-
| |
| |93\830
| |
| |<u>893.318…</u>
|''896.385…''
| |<nowiki>20 20|20 13</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |107\955
| |
| |<u>893.268…</u>
|''896.335…''
| |<nowiki>23 23|23 15</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |121\1080
| |
| |<u>893.229…</u>
|''896.{{Overline|296}}''
| |<nowiki>26 26|26 17</nowiki>
| |26;17 Superdiatonic 1/26-tone
|-
| |
| |135\1205
| |
| |<u>893.198…</u>
|''896.265…''
| |<nowiki>29 29|29 19</nowiki>
| |29;19 Superdiatonic 1/29-tone
|-
| |14\25
| |
| |
| |<u>892.934…</u>
|''896''
| |<nowiki>3 3|3 2</nowiki>
| |3;2 Golden Terra Rubra 1/3-tone
|-
| |
| |145\1295
| |
| |<u>892.688…</u>
|''895.752…''
| |<nowiki>31 31|31 21</nowiki>
| |31;21 Superdiatonic 1/31-tone
|-
| |
| |131\1170
| |
| |<u>892.661…</u>
|''895.726…''
| |<nowiki>28 28|28 19</nowiki>
| |28;19 Superdiatonic 1/28-tone
|-
| |
| |117\1045
| |
| |<u>892.629…</u>
|''895.693…''
| |<nowiki>25 25|25 17</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |103\920
| |
| |<u>892.587…</u>
|''895.652…''
| |<nowiki>22 22|22 15</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |89\795
| |
| |<u>892.533…</u>
|''895.579…''
| |<nowiki>19 19|19 13</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |75\670
| |
| |<u>892.458…</u>
|''895.522…''
| |<nowiki>16 16|16 11</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |61\545
| |
| |<u>892.349…</u>
|''895.412…''
| |<nowiki>13 13|13 9</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |
| |47\420
| |
| |<u>892.174…</u>
|''895.238…''
| |<nowiki>10 10|10 7</nowiki>
| |
|-
|
|
|80\715
|<u>892.042…</u>
|''895.104…''
|<nowiki>17 17|17 12</nowiki>
|
|-
| |
| |33\295
| |
| |<u>891.853…</u>
|''894.915…''
| |<nowiki>7 7|7 5</nowiki>
| |
|-
| |19\170
| |
| |
| |<u>891.058…</u>
|''894.117…''
| |<nowiki>4 4|4 3</nowiki>
| |
|-
|
|43\385
|
|<u>890.449…</u>
|''893.506…''
|<nowiki>9 9|9 7</nowiki>
|
|-
|24\215
|
|
|<u>889.967…</u>
|''893.023…''
|<nowiki>5 5|5 4</nowiki>
|
|-
|29\260
|
|
|<u>889.254…</u>
|''892.307…''
|<nowiki>6 6|6 5</nowiki>
|
|-
| |5\[[9edX|45]]
| |
| |
| |<u>885.847…</u>
|''888.{{Overline|8}}''
| |<nowiki>1 1|1 1</nowiki>
| |
|}
=== Tempered commas ===
=== Tempered commas ===
Astronomers might sometimes round 2.512 to 2.5, which leads to confusion with the other 2.5 - that is the logarithm multiplier required for base-10 logarithm conversion, with the formula being involved 2.5 log10(m1 - m2). The factor of 2.5 is simply coincidentally close enough to the 5th root of 100.  
Astronomers might sometimes round 2.512 to 2.5, which leads to confusion with the other 2.5 - that is the logarithm multiplier required for base-10 logarithm conversion, with the formula being involved 2.5 log10(m1 - m2). The factor of 2.5 is simply coincidentally close enough to the 5th root of 100.  


If this is taken as a comma to be tempered, it results in 100 / 97.65625 = 1.024 = [[128/125]], the lesser diesis.  
If this is taken as a comma to be tempered, it results in 100 / 97.65625 = 1.024 = [[128/125]], the lesser diesis.


== References ==
== References ==

Revision as of 13:09, 30 May 2023

← 4ed100 5ed100 6ed100 →
Prime factorization 5 (prime)
Step size 1594.53 ¢ 
Octave 1\5ed100 (1594.53 ¢)
Twelfth 1\5ed100 (1594.53 ¢)
(semiconvergent)
Consistency limit 3
Distinct consistency limit 2

5ed100, or the stellar magnitude tuning, is an equal-step tuning with each pitch being about 2.512 times larger than the other, the number known as the Pogson's ratio.

Theory

The tuning is pretty meaningless as far as pitches go, since there's only 7-8 steps of it in the entire human hearing range, but it has a real life equivalence to astronomy - each step of it is known as the Pogson's ratio and it has an application of being the factor which sets two stars being 1 magnitude apart. This means subdividing it makes a meaningful major tenth of 1594.525 cents.


Tempered commas

Astronomers might sometimes round 2.512 to 2.5, which leads to confusion with the other 2.5 - that is the logarithm multiplier required for base-10 logarithm conversion, with the formula being involved 2.5 log10(m1 - m2). The factor of 2.5 is simply coincidentally close enough to the 5th root of 100.

If this is taken as a comma to be tempered, it results in 100 / 97.65625 = 1.024 = 128/125, the lesser diesis.

References