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Expanding the "movable-do" solfege system for [[17edo|17edo]]: an aid for microtonal singing; a way of wrapping yr brain around a new sound system.
Expanding the "movable-do" solfege system for [[17edo]]: an aid for microtonal singing; a way of wrapping your brain around a new sound system.


Ordinary solfege syllables work very well in 17:
Ordinary solfege syllables work very well in 17:
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{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
| | 0
! 0
| | 1
! 1
| | 2
! 2
| | 3
! 3
| | 4
! 4
| | 5
! 5
| | 6
! 6
| | 7
! 7
| | 8
! 8
| | 9
! 9
| | 10
! 10
| | 11
! 11
| | 12
! 12
| | 13
! 13
| | 14
! 14
| | 15
! 15
| | 16
! 16
|-
|-
| | C
| C
| | Db
| Db
| | C#
| C#
| | D
| D
| | Eb
| Eb
| | D#
| D#
| | E
| E
| | F
| F
| | Gb
| Gb
| | F#
| F#
| | G
| G
| | Ab
| Ab
| | G#
| G#
| | A
| A
| | Bb
| Bb
| | A#
| A#
| | B
| B
|-
|-
| | do
| do
| | ra
| ra
| | di
| di
| | re
| re
| | me
| me
| | ri
| ri
| | mi
| mi
| | fa
| fa
| | se
| se
| | fi
| fi
| | sol
| sol
| | le
| le
| | si
| si
| | la
| la
| | te
| te
| | li
| li
| | do
| do
|}
|}


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{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
| | 0
! 0
| | 1
! 1
| | 2
! 2
| | 3
! 3
| | 4
! 4
| | 5
! 5
| | 6
! 6
| | 7
! 7
| | 8
! 8
| | 9
! 9
| | 10
! 10
| | 11
! 11
| | 12
! 12
| | 13
! 13
| | 14
! 14
| | 15
! 15
| | 16
! 16
|-
|-
| | C
| C
| | Db
| Db
| | C#
| C#
| | D
| D
| | Eb
| Eb
| | D#
| D#
| | E
| E
| | F
| F
| | Gb
| Gb
| | F#
| F#
| | G
| G
| | Ab
| Ab
| | G#
| G#
| | A
| A
| | Bb
| Bb
| | A#
| A#
| | B
| B
|-
|-
| | C
| C
| | C-up
| C-up
| | D-down
| D-down
| | D
| D
| | D-up
| D-up
| | E-down
| E-down
| | E
| E
| | F
| F
| | F-up
| F-up
| | G-down
| G-down
| | G
| G
| | G-up
| G-up
| | A-down
| A-down
| | A
| A
| | A-up
| A-up
| | B-down
| B-down
| | B
| B
|}
|}


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{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
| | 0
! 0
| | 1
! 1
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! 3
| | 4
! 4
| | 5
! 5
| | 6
! 6
| | 7
! 7
| | 8
! 8
| | 9
! 9
| | 10
! 10
| | 11
! 11
| | 12
! 12
| | 13
! 13
| | 14
! 14
| | 15
! 15
| | 16
! 16
|-
|-
| | C
| C
| | Db
| Db
| | '''D-down'''
| '''D-down'''
| | D
| D
| | Eb
| Eb
| | '''E-down'''
| '''E-down'''
| | E
| E
| | F
| F
| | Gb
| Gb
| | F#
| F#
| | G
| G
| | Ab
| Ab
| | '''A-down'''
| '''A-down'''
| | A
| A
| | Bb
| Bb
| | '''B-down'''
| '''B-down'''
| | B
| B
|-
|-
| | do
| do
| | ra
| ra
| | '''ru'''
| '''ru'''
| | re
| re
| | me
| me
| | '''mu'''
| '''mu'''
| | mi
| mi
| | fa
| fa
| | se
| se
| | fi
| fi
| | sol
| sol
| | le
| le
| | '''lu'''
| '''lu'''
| | la
| la
| | te
| te
| | '''tu'''
| '''tu'''
| | ti
| ti
|}
|}


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{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
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| | 13
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! 16
|-
|-
| | C
| C
| | Db
| Db
| | D-down
| D-down
| | D
| D
| | Eb
| Eb
| | E-down
| E-down
| | E
| E
| | F
| F
| | '''F-up'''
| '''F-up'''
| | '''G-down'''
| '''G-down'''
| | G
| G
| | Ab
| Ab
| | A-down
| A-down
| | A
| A
| | Bb
| Bb
| | B-down
| B-down
| | B
| B
|-
|-
| | do
| do
| | ra
| ra
| | ru
| ru
| | re
| re
| | me
| me
| | mu
| mu
| | mi
| mi
| | fa
| fa
| | '''fu'''
| '''fu'''
| | '''su'''
| '''su'''
| | sol
| sol
| | le
| le
| | lu
| lu
| | la
| la
| | te
| te
| | tu
| tu
| | ti
| ti
|}
|}


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{| class="wikitable"
|-
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|-
|-
| | C
| C
| | '''C-up'''
| '''C-up'''
| | D-down
| D-down
| | D
| D
| | '''D-up'''
| '''D-up'''
| | E-down
| E-down
| | E
| E
| | F
| F
| | F-up
| F-up
| | G-down
| G-down
| | G
| G
| | '''G-up'''
| '''G-up'''
| | A-down
| A-down
| | A
| A
| | '''A-up'''
| '''A-up'''
| | B-down
| B-down
| | B
| B
|-
|-
| | do
| do
| | '''da'''
| '''da'''
| | du
| du
| | re
| re
| | '''ro'''
| '''ro'''
| | mu
| mu
| | mi
| mi
| | fa
| fa
| | fu
| fu
| | su
| su
| | sol
| sol
| | '''sa'''
| '''sa'''
| | lu
| lu
| | la
| la
| | '''lo'''
| '''lo'''
| | tu
| tu
| | do
| do
|}
|}
=== ===


===side-by-side===
===side-by-side===
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|-
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| | C
| C
| | Db/C-up
| Db/C-up
| | C#/D-down
| C#/D-down
| | D
| D
| | Eb/D-up
| Eb/D-up
| | D#/E-down
| D#/E-down
| | E
| E
| | F
| F
| | Gb/F-up
| Gb/F-up
| | F#/G-down
| F#/G-down
| | G
| G
| | Ab/G-up
| Ab/G-up
| | G#/A-down
| G#/A-down
| | A
| A
| | Bb/A-up
| Bb/A-up
| | A#/B-down
| A#/B-down
| | B
| B
|-
|-
| | do
| do
| | ra
| ra
| | di
| di
| | re
| re
| | me
| me
| | ri
| ri
| | mi
| mi
| | fa
| fa
| | se
| se
| | fi
| fi
| | sol
| sol
| | le
| le
| | si
| si
| | la
| la
| | te
| te
| | li
| li
| | do
| do
|-
|-
| | do
| do
| | da
| da
| | du
| du
| | re
| re
| | ro
| ro
| | mu
| mu
| | mi
| mi
| | fa
| fa
| | fu
| fu
| | su
| su
| | sol
| sol
| | sa
| sa
| | lu
| lu
| | la
| la
| | lo
| lo
| | tu
| tu
| | do
| do
|}
|}


See also [[22edo_Solfege|22edo Solfege]]
See also [[22edo Solfege]]
 
[[Category:17edo]]
[[Category:Solfege]]

Revision as of 22:35, 28 October 2018

Expanding the "movable-do" solfege system for 17edo: an aid for microtonal singing; a way of wrapping your brain around a new sound system.

Ordinary solfege syllables work very well in 17:

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
C Db C# D Eb D# E F Gb F# G Ab G# A Bb A# B
do ra di re me ri mi fa se fi sol le si la te li do

Note that syllables usually treated as enharmonic equivalents become distinct pitches in 17 (eg. "ra" & "di"). Spelling matters here.

This system could work just fine on its own, but what if I want to respell the pitches to put them into another pitch class? For example, what if I want to treat D# as a kind of third (a neutral third) instead of a kind of second (an augmented second)? For pitches, we have up-down arrows (thank you Sagittal) that can allow us to respell like this:

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
C Db C# D Eb D# E F Gb F# G Ab G# A Bb A# B
C C-up D-down D D-up E-down E F F-up G-down G G-up A-down A A-up B-down B

So, for example, we can respell our augmented second, D#, as a neutral third, E-down, & get something more intuitive & useful for certain purposes.

But what if we want solfege syllables for these respellings?

ru, mu, lu & tu

I offer the suffix "-u" to indicate neutral 2nds, 3rds, 6ths, & 7ths.

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
C Db D-down D Eb E-down E F Gb F# G Ab A-down A Bb B-down B
do ra ru re me mu mi fa se fi sol le lu la te tu ti

So if we encounter a "ru," we know to take it as a neutral second (not an augmented unison); if we encounter "lu," we know to take it as a neutral sixth (not an augmented fifth) & so on.

fu & su

What about the two tritones? Perhaps you want to respell G-flat as F-up. For this, I offer "fu"; likewise, if you want G-down in place of F-up, I offer "su".

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
C Db D-down D Eb E-down E F F-up G-down G Ab A-down A Bb B-down B
do ra ru re me mu mi fa fu su sol le lu la te tu ti

other enharmonics

Some offers, to fill out the octave:

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
C C-up D-down D D-up E-down E F F-up G-down G G-up A-down A A-up B-down B
do da du re ro mu mi fa fu su sol sa lu la lo tu do

side-by-side

For comparison, the full system:

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
C Db/C-up C#/D-down D Eb/D-up D#/E-down E F Gb/F-up F#/G-down G Ab/G-up G#/A-down A Bb/A-up A#/B-down B
do ra di re me ri mi fa se fi sol le si la te li do
do da du re ro mu mi fa fu su sol sa lu la lo tu do

See also 22edo Solfege