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The '''Würschmidt comma''' ({{monzo| 17 1 -8 }} = '''393216/390625''') is a [[5-limit]] [[comma]] of 11.4 cents.
The '''Würschmidt comma''' ({{monzo| 17 1 -8 }} = '''393216/390625''') is a [[5-limit]] [[comma]] of 11.4 cents.


It is the amount by which eight major thirds fall short of a perfect fifth, octave-reduced: ((5/4)<sup>8</sup> × 393216/390625) / 4 = 3/2. It is also equal to the difference between the lesser diesis and the magic comma, ([[128/125]])/([[3125/3072]]).
It is the amount by which an octave-reduced stack of eight major thirds falls short of a perfect fifth: <math>\frac{1}{4}\left(\frac{5}{4}\right)^{8}\left(\frac{393216}{390625}\right)=\frac{3}{2}</math>, which comes from 5/4 being a convergent in the continued fraction of <math>\sqrt[8]{6}</math>.


Therefore, it is also the amount by which seven major thirds fall short of 24/5 (i.e. 6/5 plus two octaves). In other words, ((5/4)<sup>7</sup> × 393216/390625) / 4 = 6/5.
It is also equal to the difference between the lesser diesis and the magic comma, <math>\frac{128}{125}/\frac{3125}{3072}</math>.
 
Therefore, it is also the amount by which seven major thirds fall short of 24/5 (i.e. 6/5 plus two octaves). In other words, <math>\frac{1}{4}\left(\frac{5}{4}\right)^{7}\left(\frac{393216}{390625}\right)=\frac{6}{5}</math>


Tempering it out leads to the [[würschmidt family]] of temperaments. As in [[meantone]], it implies that 3/2 will be tempered flat and/or 5/4 will be tempered sharp, and therefore 6/5 will be tempered flat.  
Tempering it out leads to the [[würschmidt family]] of temperaments. As in [[meantone]], it implies that 3/2 will be tempered flat and/or 5/4 will be tempered sharp, and therefore 6/5 will be tempered flat.  

Revision as of 14:55, 24 April 2024

Interval information
Ratio 393216/390625
Factorization 217 × 3 × 5-8
Monzo [17 1 -8
Size in cents 11.44529¢
Name Würschmidt comma
Color name sg83, Saquadbigu comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{dddd3}_{5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 37.1604
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 37.1699
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 77
Comma size small
Open this interval in xen-calc

The Würschmidt comma ([17 1 -8 = 393216/390625) is a 5-limit comma of 11.4 cents.

It is the amount by which an octave-reduced stack of eight major thirds falls short of a perfect fifth: [math]\displaystyle{ \frac{1}{4}\left(\frac{5}{4}\right)^{8}\left(\frac{393216}{390625}\right)=\frac{3}{2} }[/math], which comes from 5/4 being a convergent in the continued fraction of [math]\displaystyle{ \sqrt[8]{6} }[/math].

It is also equal to the difference between the lesser diesis and the magic comma, [math]\displaystyle{ \frac{128}{125}/\frac{3125}{3072} }[/math].

Therefore, it is also the amount by which seven major thirds fall short of 24/5 (i.e. 6/5 plus two octaves). In other words, [math]\displaystyle{ \frac{1}{4}\left(\frac{5}{4}\right)^{7}\left(\frac{393216}{390625}\right)=\frac{6}{5} }[/math]

Tempering it out leads to the würschmidt family of temperaments. As in meantone, it implies that 3/2 will be tempered flat and/or 5/4 will be tempered sharp, and therefore 6/5 will be tempered flat.

See also