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Hi! I'm the one who currently has the nickname "[[pinkanberry]]" on the XA Discord. I think this page is a good idea. I hope this page will be good for getting on the same page of things for the wiki. --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 22:30, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

=== Cases of suboptimal optimization ===

I was intrigued by this comment from above:

:: "CTE" is "constrained Tenney Euclidean" where, instead of starting with the TE tuning and stretching so that octaves are pure, you do the optimization with the 2/1 kept at 1200 cents the entire time. It sounds like a good idea, but there's a subtlety in which it ends up weighting 8/7, 11/8, 13/8 etc so much more strongly than e.g. 6/5 that it can give strange results. Also for things like Blackwood, Mavila, etc. I would guess that whoever's pushed this change has decided these strange results are "philosophically correct" and so has removed POTE from everything and put CTE instead. -- Mike Battaglia, 13 Mar 2024 ''(imported from Facebook)''

6/5 is an interval that, due to its extreme simplicity, has a lot of give when tempering (''at least'' 6{{cent}}), so on principle I don't buy the argument that it is being underprioritised without seeing an example. Hence, a few examples of POTE having better tuning than CTE would be appreciated so we can go through what we think is going on. Kind regards, --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 22:46, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

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 Hi! I'm the one who currently has the nickname "[[pinkanberry]]" on the XA Discord. I think this page is a good idea. I hope this page will be good for getting on the same page of things for the wiki. --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 22:30, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
+=== Cases of suboptimal optimization ===
+I was intrigued by this comment from above:
+:: "CTE" is "constrained Tenney Euclidean" where, instead of starting with the TE tuning and stretching so that octaves are pure, you do the optimization with the 2/1 kept at 1200 cents the entire time. It sounds like a good idea, but there's a subtlety in which it ends up weighting 8/7, 11/8, 13/8 etc so much more strongly than e.g. 6/5 that it can give strange results. Also for things like Blackwood, Mavila, etc. I would guess that whoever's pushed this change has decided these strange results are "philosophically correct" and so has removed POTE from everything and put CTE instead. -- Mike Battaglia, 13 Mar 2024 ''(imported from Facebook)''
+/5 is an interval that, due to its extreme simplicity, has a lot of give when tempering (''at least'' 6{{cent}}), so on principle I don't buy the argument that it is being underprioritised without seeing an example. Hence, a few examples of POTE having better tuning than CTE would be appreciated so we can go through what we think is going on. Kind regards, --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 22:46, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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