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== Dear Ruby by Thelonious Monk ==
== Why %20 instead of space? ==


Notes to self for a possible future translation: I got the Ruby chords from ultimate guitar and translated them to 41edo. I didn't study the song, barely listened to it. So this is not an in-depth translation, just a rough draft of sorts. Just looked at the lattice and avoided pitch shifts on common tones. It went well. I stuck to 5-limit, except for the dom7 and dim7 chords. No glaring weirdnesses.
Hi Kite, what was the problem that you solved by exchanging <code> </code> by <code>%20</code>? I mean, internal links are correctly translated from page titles and headings (except in some rare cases) whereas encoded chars make the wiki text of this page almost unreadable. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 14:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)


I didn't analyze the melody. If the melody plays a sustained 9th above a v6 chord, I would probably drop the 5th from the chord and tune the 9th as a v9.
: Whenever I add a new translation to my personal translations page, I update this page to reflect that. I've found the easiest way to do that is to simply copy and paste the table of contents from the former to the latter. The <code>%20</code> stuff is a by-product of that. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 22:37, 27 November 2020 (UTC)


The ^Ab^d7 chord after the 1st line of the verse makes an uneven root movement. Maybe better as vAb^d7. I was trying to keep the 7th of the previous chord the same as the 6th of this chord. But maybe not worth doing, since the pitch shift would be 2\41 not 1\41.
:: I see, but this way you give it a self-enforcing tendency towards "de-wikification" ;-) BTW: are you interested in resolving the double redirect yourself? May I also suggest to change the title of this page from [[Kite Guitar Translations]] into [[Kite Guitar translations]]? --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 22:47, 27 November 2020 (UTC)


2nd line, Dbd7 followed by Bbd7 is weird because they're the same chord in 12edo! They're different chords in 41. So unless you just hold the same chord, you have pitch shifts. I would have to know the song better to do a good translation there.
::: I changed the title of this page. I think I already resolved the double-redirect. Did I do it right? I just added another translation and went and updated this page again. Sorry, more %20's! But I will be doing lots of updates, so I need a super-easy way to do it. And I don't think the %20's are much of a problem. If there is an easy way to avoid the %20 stuff, let me know. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 10:02, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
The ^d7(~5) chords may be too dissonant and may need to be regular ^d7 chords. The ~5 avoids a pitch shift of 2\41, which may be fine, since it's not 1\41.
 
In the outro, after the first line we have IVM7 followed by Vm7, a meantone pitch shift. One shift in the whole song, not bad. Easily hideable by voicing the root of the IV chord low and the 7th of the V chord high, as one would normally do anyway.
 
Since writing this, I'm told these are not the correct chords for the tune, oh well...
 
[Intro]
 
Bbv6 ^Dbv6 ^Db^d7 ^Abv6
 
F^m9 ^Ev7vv#9/^B Bb^d7(~5) B^d7
 
[Verse]
 
F^m9 B^d7 ^Ab^d7 ^EbvM7
 
Ru by, My Dear
 
F^m7 Gb^m7 vG^m7 ^Abv6 vAv6 Bbv6
 
vG^m9 vG^d7/^Db (was Dbd7) Bbvd7 FvM7
 
Hold back that tear
 
vG^m7 Ab^m7 vA^m7
 
Bb^m7 Bb^d7 vG^d7(~5) AbvM7
 
I know he's gone
 
Bb^m7 vB^m7 vC^m7
 
vC^m7 Bb^m7
 
Your love has flown
 
Av,9 E7sus4no5 B^d7
 
You're all alone
 
 
[Bridge]
 
^AvM7 B^m7 B^d7
 
One day he came to you
 
F#^m7 ^Av6
 
And made the music play
 
Bbv6 B^d7
 
In his way
 
Ebv6 Ebva Ebv/vC
 
You said you'd rather die
 
vD^m7 Eb^m7 A^d7 Ebva
 
Than say goodbye
 
 
[Outro]
 
F^m9 B^d7 Ab^d7(~5) EbvM7
 
But there'll come a day
 
F^m7 Gb^m7 vG^m7 ^Abv6 Av6 Bbv6
 
vG^m9 vG^d7/^Db (was Dbd7) Bbvd7 FvM7
 
Though he's away
 
vG^m7 Ab^m7 vA^m7
 
Bb^m7 Bb^d7 vG^d7(~5) AbvM7
 
You'll sing his song
 
Bb^m7 vB^m7 vC^m7
 
vC^m7 Bb^m7
 
You'll carry on
 
Av,9 E7sus4no5 Av6
 
Ruby, My Dear
 
[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 09:21, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 10:02, 28 November 2020

Why %20 instead of space?

Hi Kite, what was the problem that you solved by exchanging by %20? I mean, internal links are correctly translated from page titles and headings (except in some rare cases) whereas encoded chars make the wiki text of this page almost unreadable. --Xenwolf (talk) 14:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Whenever I add a new translation to my personal translations page, I update this page to reflect that. I've found the easiest way to do that is to simply copy and paste the table of contents from the former to the latter. The %20 stuff is a by-product of that. --TallKite (talk) 22:37, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
I see, but this way you give it a self-enforcing tendency towards "de-wikification" ;-) BTW: are you interested in resolving the double redirect yourself? May I also suggest to change the title of this page from Kite Guitar Translations into Kite Guitar translations? --Xenwolf (talk) 22:47, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
I changed the title of this page. I think I already resolved the double-redirect. Did I do it right? I just added another translation and went and updated this page again. Sorry, more %20's! But I will be doing lots of updates, so I need a super-easy way to do it. And I don't think the %20's are much of a problem. If there is an easy way to avoid the %20 stuff, let me know. --TallKite (talk) 10:02, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
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