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= ARCHIVED WIKISPACES DISCUSSION BELOW =
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== notation in 12-et ==
== Chord spelling ==
If it exists in 12-equal, what degrees (100-cent steps) are representing it?


- '''xenwolf''' January 05, 2017, 12:13:08 AM UTC-0800
Thanks for posting this.  I've been interested in how to translate this chord into different tuning since I first started experimenting with tuning.
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To my ears, the literal spelling of E7#9 sounds really off in 19-edo, with the #9 sounding irritatingly flat.  E7x9 (or E7addm10) sounds much more Hendrix-y to my ears, but, it's not like there is an accepted interpretation by music scholars.  Playing around with the chord in JI systems, I noticed also that the dom7aug9 spelling yields a weird vibe that doesn't strike me well.
 
What are you interpretations?  --[[User:Bozu|Bozu]] ([[User talk:Bozu|talk]]) 12:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 
== Voicings ==
 
The “Hendrix chord” as it is usually discussed by rock musicians is not just an octave-equivalent set of intervals, but rather a specific voicing of the chord. For a musician like Hendrix playing with high gain and distortion, the specific voicing matters a lot in how we hear the chord. I'm going to try to fix the page to talk about the Hendrix chord per se rather than a generically voiced dom7#9no5.
 
Moreover, since many guitarists describe chords in terms of meantone, I think it's useful to present a 5-limit voicing in addition to the current 19- and 7-limit ones, and to present the different tunings more neutrally (rather than to describe the 7-limit as merely “an alternate”).
 
--[[User:Bcmills|Bcmills]] ([[User talk:Bcmills|talk]]) 02:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
 
== Color notation ==
 
I think the use of color notation in this article is doing more to distract here than it is to clarify, and I don't want to figure out the color notation for the 5-limit chord (see above), so I'm going to remove that part to focus the page on the chord itself rather than its notation in an esoteric system.
 
--[[User:Bcmills|Bcmills]] ([[User talk:Bcmills|talk]]) 02:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
 
== Essentially tempered? ==
 
After some discussion on the XA Discord, we're not sure why the 19-limit chord would be considered “essentially tempered”: the 7-limit interpretation looks essentially just, and the 19-limit interpretation also uses prime 7, so if the Hendrix comma is tempered out (equating the two) then the chord seems to be essentially just — not essentially tempered — by virtue of its 7-limit mapping.
 
[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] thinks the original author may have been thinking about [[Dyadic_chord#List_of_essentially_just_dyadic_chords|plurichords]] instead.
 
--[[User:Bcmills|Bcmills]] ([[User talk:Bcmills|talk]]) 05:03, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
 
== Mess of infoboxes ==
 
This page looks terrible because it's just a bunch of stacked infoboxes. Please try to actually write some prose instead of dumping auto-generated info.
 
Secondly, the some of these 'interpretations' are very dubious. Last time I checked, Hendrix was just playing in 12edo.
 
– [[User:Sintel|Sintel🎏]] ([[User_talk:Sintel|talk]]) 13:27, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

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Chord spelling

Thanks for posting this. I've been interested in how to translate this chord into different tuning since I first started experimenting with tuning.

To my ears, the literal spelling of E7#9 sounds really off in 19-edo, with the #9 sounding irritatingly flat. E7x9 (or E7addm10) sounds much more Hendrix-y to my ears, but, it's not like there is an accepted interpretation by music scholars. Playing around with the chord in JI systems, I noticed also that the dom7aug9 spelling yields a weird vibe that doesn't strike me well.

What are you interpretations? --Bozu (talk) 12:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Voicings

The “Hendrix chord” as it is usually discussed by rock musicians is not just an octave-equivalent set of intervals, but rather a specific voicing of the chord. For a musician like Hendrix playing with high gain and distortion, the specific voicing matters a lot in how we hear the chord. I'm going to try to fix the page to talk about the Hendrix chord per se rather than a generically voiced dom7#9no5.

Moreover, since many guitarists describe chords in terms of meantone, I think it's useful to present a 5-limit voicing in addition to the current 19- and 7-limit ones, and to present the different tunings more neutrally (rather than to describe the 7-limit as merely “an alternate”).

--Bcmills (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Color notation

I think the use of color notation in this article is doing more to distract here than it is to clarify, and I don't want to figure out the color notation for the 5-limit chord (see above), so I'm going to remove that part to focus the page on the chord itself rather than its notation in an esoteric system.

--Bcmills (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Essentially tempered?

After some discussion on the XA Discord, we're not sure why the 19-limit chord would be considered “essentially tempered”: the 7-limit interpretation looks essentially just, and the 19-limit interpretation also uses prime 7, so if the Hendrix comma is tempered out (equating the two) then the chord seems to be essentially just — not essentially tempered — by virtue of its 7-limit mapping.

FloraC thinks the original author may have been thinking about plurichords instead.

--Bcmills (talk) 05:03, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Mess of infoboxes

This page looks terrible because it's just a bunch of stacked infoboxes. Please try to actually write some prose instead of dumping auto-generated info.

Secondly, the some of these 'interpretations' are very dubious. Last time I checked, Hendrix was just playing in 12edo.

Sintel🎏 (talk) 13:27, 26 April 2025 (UTC)