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A '''saddle chord''' is a chord that represents a ''saddle point'' in the [[harmonic entropy]] surface, rather than a local minimum or maximum. Because saddle points only occur in two-dimensional or higher surfaces, a saddle chord cannot be a dyad (since the harmonic entropy graph for dyads is a one-dimensional curve). It must be a triad, tetrad or higher.
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">A **saddle chord** is a chord that represents a //saddle point// in the [[harmonic entropy]] surface, rather than a local minimum or maximum. Because saddle points only occur in two-dimensional or higher surfaces, a saddle chord cannot be a dyad (since the harmonic entropy graph for dyads is a one-dimensional curve). It must be a triad, tetrad or higher.


Chords &lt;span style="line-height: 1.5;"&gt;at or near local minima sound "clean" and have a single primary approximation just intonation approximation. For example, the justly intoned major chord 4:5:6 is a local minimum, and its approximation in 12edo is close by.&lt;/span&gt;
Chords <span style="line-height: 1.5;">at or near local minima sound "clean" and have a single primary approximation just intonation approximation. For example, the justly intoned major chord 4:5:6 is a local minimum, and its approximation in 12edo is close by.</span>


In contrast, a chord at or near a local maximum sounds especially "dirty" and discordant. "Dirty" dyads include many [[quarter tone]]-based intervals. There are also dirty triads, for example, the quarter tone triad {0,1,2} with each note a quarter tone apart.
In contrast, a chord at or near a local maximum sounds especially "dirty" and discordant. "Dirty" dyads include many [[quarter tone]]-based intervals. There are also dirty triads, for example, the quarter tone triad {0,1,2} in [[24edo]] with each note a quarter tone apart.


For triads and higher, though, there are other possibilities, corresponding to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_saddle|monkey saddle]] and horse saddle-type points. These chords do not have a single just approximation but rather are a compromise between multiple ones, and as such their harmonic entropy is not a local minimum (at least not in all directions). They are intermediate between consonant and "dirty" in terms of sounds.</pre></div>
For triads and higher, though, there are other possibilities, corresponding to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_saddle monkey saddle] and horse saddle-type points. These chords do not have a single just approximation but rather are a compromise between multiple ones, and as such their harmonic entropy is not a local minimum (at least not in all directions). They are intermediate between consonant and "dirty" in terms of sounds.
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Saddle chord&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;A &lt;strong&gt;saddle chord&lt;/strong&gt; is a chord that represents a &lt;em&gt;saddle point&lt;/em&gt; in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/harmonic%20entropy"&gt;harmonic entropy&lt;/a&gt; surface, rather than a local minimum or maximum. Because saddle points only occur in two-dimensional or higher surfaces, a saddle chord cannot be a dyad (since the harmonic entropy graph for dyads is a one-dimensional curve). It must be a triad, tetrad or higher.&lt;br /&gt;
 
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Chords &lt;span style="line-height: 1.5;"&gt;at or near local minima sound &amp;quot;clean&amp;quot; and have a single primary approximation just intonation approximation. For example, the justly intoned major chord 4:5:6 is a local minimum, and its approximation in 12edo is close by.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 
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In contrast, a chord at or near a local maximum sounds especially &amp;quot;dirty&amp;quot; and discordant. &amp;quot;Dirty&amp;quot; dyads include many &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/quarter%20tone"&gt;quarter tone&lt;/a&gt;-based intervals. There are also dirty triads, for example, the quarter tone triad {0,1,2} with each note a quarter tone apart.&lt;br /&gt;
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For triads and higher, though, there are other possibilities, corresponding to &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_saddle" rel="nofollow"&gt;monkey saddle&lt;/a&gt; and horse saddle-type points. These chords do not have a single just approximation but rather are a compromise between multiple ones, and as such their harmonic entropy is not a local minimum (at least not in all directions). They are intermediate between consonant and &amp;quot;dirty&amp;quot; in terms of sounds.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>

Latest revision as of 05:08, 24 December 2024

A saddle chord is a chord that represents a saddle point in the harmonic entropy surface, rather than a local minimum or maximum. Because saddle points only occur in two-dimensional or higher surfaces, a saddle chord cannot be a dyad (since the harmonic entropy graph for dyads is a one-dimensional curve). It must be a triad, tetrad or higher.

Chords at or near local minima sound "clean" and have a single primary approximation just intonation approximation. For example, the justly intoned major chord 4:5:6 is a local minimum, and its approximation in 12edo is close by.

In contrast, a chord at or near a local maximum sounds especially "dirty" and discordant. "Dirty" dyads include many quarter tone-based intervals. There are also dirty triads, for example, the quarter tone triad {0,1,2} in 24edo with each note a quarter tone apart.

For triads and higher, though, there are other possibilities, corresponding to monkey saddle and horse saddle-type points. These chords do not have a single just approximation but rather are a compromise between multiple ones, and as such their harmonic entropy is not a local minimum (at least not in all directions). They are intermediate between consonant and "dirty" in terms of sounds.


Todo: add examples