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Musicians are typically interested in musical intervals that are rational (i.e. justly intoned ratios), or equal divisions of these intervals. However, not all intervals fit into this box.
Musicians are typically interested in musical intervals that are rational (i.e. justly intoned ratios), or equal divisions of these intervals. However, not all intervals fit into this box.


There are many non-radical intervals which have musical significance. By '''non-radical''' is meant a number that cannot be written in the form [[math|math]] a^{1/b} [[math|math]], where a and b are integers. What follows is a list of musically significant non-radical intervals.
There are many non-radical intervals which have musical significance. By '''non-radical''' is meant a number that cannot be written in the form <math>(a/b)^c</math>, where <math>a</math> and <math>b</math> are integers and <math>c</math> is rational. What follows is a list of musically significant non-radical intervals.


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| | '''Ratio'''
| | '''Ratio'''
| | '''Cents'''
| | '''Cents'''
| | '''Name'''
| | '''Name(s)'''
| | '''Musical Significance'''
| | '''Musical significance'''
|-
|-
| | <math>2^{1/\phi}
| | <math>2^{1/\phi} \approx 1.5348</math>
\approx
| | 741.641
1.5348</math>
| | [[Logarithmic phi]]
| | 741.64
| | Divides the octave into two parts, one being phi times larger than the other in cents.
| |  
| | "Logarithmic phi" which divides the octave into two parts, one being Phi times larger than the other in cents.
|-
|-
| | <math>\dfrac{\sqrt{5}+1}{2}
| | <math>\phi = \dfrac{\sqrt{5}+1}{2} \approx 1.6180</math>
\approx
| | 833.090
1.6180</math>
| | [[Acoustic phi]]<br>[[Golden ratio]]<br>Linear phi
| | 833.09
| | "Linear phi," the unique interval whose continued fraction approximations converge more slowly than any other number. This is due to the continued fraction representation only containing 1's, as well as a general consequence of [[Wikipedia:Diophantine_approximation#General_upper_bound|Dirichlet's approximation theorem]].
| | <math>\text{Phi } (\phi)</math>
| | "Linear phi," the unique interval whose continued fraction approximations converge more slowly than any other number. This is due to the continued fraction representation only containing 1's, as well as a general consequence of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diophantine_approximation#General_upper_bound Dirichlet's Approximation Theorem].
|-
|-
| | <math>e \approx 2.7183</math>
| | <math>e \approx 2.7183</math>
| | 1731.23
| | 1731.23
| | "e-tave"
| | [[Natave]]<br>[[Neper]]<br>"e-tave"
| | In Gene's black magic formulas, it is mathematically more "natural" to consider the number of divisions to the "e-tave" rather than the octave.
| | In Gene's black magic formulas, it is mathematically more "natural" to consider the number of divisions to the "e-tave" rather than the octave.
|-
|-
| | <math>e^{2\pi} \approx 535.4917</math>
| | <math>e^{2\pi} \approx 535.4917</math>
| | 10877.66
| | 10877.66
| |  
| | [[Zetave]]
| | The zeta function has units that are given as divisions of the interval
| | The [[zeta]] function has units that are given as divisions of the interval <math>e^{2\pi}</math>.
|}


<math>e^{2\pi}</math>
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Latest revision as of 13:13, 26 March 2025

Musicians are typically interested in musical intervals that are rational (i.e. justly intoned ratios), or equal divisions of these intervals. However, not all intervals fit into this box.

There are many non-radical intervals which have musical significance. By non-radical is meant a number that cannot be written in the form [math]\displaystyle{ (a/b)^c }[/math], where [math]\displaystyle{ a }[/math] and [math]\displaystyle{ b }[/math] are integers and [math]\displaystyle{ c }[/math] is rational. What follows is a list of musically significant non-radical intervals.

Ratio Cents Name(s) Musical significance
[math]\displaystyle{ 2^{1/\phi} \approx 1.5348 }[/math] 741.641 Logarithmic phi Divides the octave into two parts, one being phi times larger than the other in cents.
[math]\displaystyle{ \phi = \dfrac{\sqrt{5}+1}{2} \approx 1.6180 }[/math] 833.090 Acoustic phi
Golden ratio
Linear phi
"Linear phi," the unique interval whose continued fraction approximations converge more slowly than any other number. This is due to the continued fraction representation only containing 1's, as well as a general consequence of Dirichlet's approximation theorem.
[math]\displaystyle{ e \approx 2.7183 }[/math] 1731.23 Natave
Neper
"e-tave"
In Gene's black magic formulas, it is mathematically more "natural" to consider the number of divisions to the "e-tave" rather than the octave.
[math]\displaystyle{ e^{2\pi} \approx 535.4917 }[/math] 10877.66 Zetave The zeta function has units that are given as divisions of the interval [math]\displaystyle{ e^{2\pi} }[/math].