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'''40/39''' is the difference between the third octave of the third [[5/4]] (40 = 5 ⋅ 2<sup>3</sup>) and the fifth of the thirteenth partial of the same root (39 = 13 ⋅ 3). If tempered out, it tempers together [[5-limit]] and [[13-limit]]] intervals. However, it does not assosciate major with greater neutral and minor with lesser neutral as one would expect (see [[65/64]]), but the other way around. In particular [[5/4]]~[[39/32]] and [[6/5]]~[[16/13]] are temperings.
'''40/39''' is the difference between the third octave of the third [[5/4]] (40 = 5 ⋅ 2<sup>3</sup>) and the fifth of the thirteenth partial of the same root (39 = 13 ⋅ 3). If tempered out, it equates [[39/32]] with [[5/4]] and thus [[6/5]] with [[16/13]], so that it does not assosciate major with greater neutral and minor with lesser neutral as one would expect (see [[65/64]]), but the other way around.


== Sagittal notation ==
== Sagittal notation ==
In the [[Sagittal]] system, the downward version of this comma (possibly tempered) is represented (in a secondary role) by the sagittal {{sagittal | \\! }} and is called the '''13/5 small diesis''', or '''13/5S''' for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 13/5 (equiv. 13/10), as for example in C-F{{nbhsp}}{{sagittal | \\! }}. The primary role of {{ sagittal | \\! }} is [[6561/6400#Sagittal notation | 6400/6561]] (25S). The upward version is called '''5/13S''' or '''13/5S up''' and is represented (in a secondary role) by {{sagittal| //| }}.
In the [[Sagittal]] system, the downward version of this comma (possibly tempered) is represented (in a secondary role) by the sagittal {{sagittal | \\! }} and is called the '''13/5 small diesis''', or '''13/5S''' for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 13/5 (equiv. 13/10), as for example in C-F{{nbhsp}}{{sagittal | \\! }}. The primary role of {{ sagittal | \\! }} is [[6561/6400#Sagittal notation | 6400/6561]] (25S). The upward version is called '''5/13S''' or '''13/5S up''' and is represented (in a secondary role) by {{sagittal| //| }}.

Revision as of 20:33, 12 November 2024

Interval information
Ratio 40/39
Factorization 23 × 3-1 × 5 × 13-1
Monzo [3 -1 1 0 0 -1
Size in cents 43.83105¢
Names tridecimal 1/5-tone,
tridecimal minor diesis
Color name 3uy1, thuyo unison
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{A1}^{5}_{13} }[/math]
Special properties superparticular,
reduced
Tenney height (log2 nd) 10.6073
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 10.6439
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 27
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40/39 is the difference between the third octave of the third 5/4 (40 = 5 ⋅ 23) and the fifth of the thirteenth partial of the same root (39 = 13 ⋅ 3). If tempered out, it equates 39/32 with 5/4 and thus 6/5 with 16/13, so that it does not assosciate major with greater neutral and minor with lesser neutral as one would expect (see 65/64), but the other way around.

Sagittal notation

In the Sagittal system, the downward version of this comma (possibly tempered) is represented (in a secondary role) by the sagittal ⁠ ⁠ and is called the 13/5 small diesis, or 13/5S for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 13/5 (equiv. 13/10), as for example in C-F⁠ ⁠⁠ ⁠. The primary role of ⁠ ⁠ is 6400/6561 (25S). The upward version is called 5/13S or 13/5S up and is represented (in a secondary role) by ⁠ ⁠.