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'''Musical cells'''{{idiosyncratic}} are a system of [[Mario Pizarro]] for constructing [[well temperament]]s. Recently he has connected this to a system of stretched octaves he calls "'''toctaves'''"{{idiosyncratic}}. This is discussed on ''[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_100427.html The corrected progression of musical cells]''.
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">Musical cells is a system of [[Mario Pizarro]] for constructing [[circulating temperaments]]. Recently he has connected this to a system of stretched octaves he calls "toctaves". This is discussed on
//[[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/100427|The corrected progression of musical cells]]//.


= Toctave =
== Musical cells ==
**Toctave** (short for "True Octave") is a frequency ratio of 27 * 2^(1/4) / 16 (ca. 1205.865 cents) which Pizarro cam up with in connection with his theory of musical cells.
Pizarro's musical cells are based on a set of three [[comma]]s:
* M: (3<sup>8</sup> × 5)/2<sup>15</sup> ([[schisma]]);
* J: (2<sup>25</sup> × 2<sup>1/4</sup>)/(3<sup>13</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup>);
* U: (2<sup>12</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> × 3<sup>1/2</sup>)/3<sup>11</sup>.


[[math]]
Using combinations of these commas, he defined two "semitone factors" K and P, which he then put together to from the Piagui scale. This well-tempered scale follows an [[8L 4s]] pattern, with large steps K and small steps P. There are three variants (rotations) of this scale: Piagui I (KKP KKP KKP KKP), Piagui II (KPK KPK KPK KPK) and Piagui III (PKK PKK PKK PKK).
Toctave=\frac{27}{16}\sqrt[4]{2} \approx 2.0067870065670918\dots
 
[[math]]
== Toctave ==
The toctave (short for "True Octave") is a frequency ratio of 27 * 2^(1/4) / 16 (ca. 1205.865 cents) which Pizarro came up with in connection with his theory of musical cells.
 
<math>Toctave=\frac{27}{16}\sqrt[4]{2} \approx 2.0067870065670918\dots</math>


This is 1/4 of a Pythagorean comma sharp.
This is 1/4 of a Pythagorean comma sharp.


Threads/Folders on the tuning list:
Threads/Folders on the tuning list:
* http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/100919 - "The True Octave"
* http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/101004 - "A new equal tempered scale?"
* http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/files/MarioPizarro/


== see also ==
* [https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_100894.html#100919 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/100919] - "The True Octave"
* [[Octave]]</pre></div>
* [https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_101004.html http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/101004] - "A new equal tempered scale?"
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* [https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Zu20johQ1YcmVyFGv0V0_QtMDsCeRp7H?usp=sharing MarioPizarro - Google Drive] - Collection of materials on the topic
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&lt;em&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/100427" rel="nofollow"&gt;The corrected progression of musical cells&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Octave]]
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* [[Stretched tuning]]
&lt;strong&gt;Toctave&lt;/strong&gt; (short for &amp;quot;True Octave&amp;quot;) is a frequency ratio of 27 * 2^(1/4) / 16 (ca. 1205.865 cents) which Pizarro cam up with in connection with his theory of musical cells.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wikipedia:Stretched octave]]
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This is 1/4 of a Pythagorean comma sharp.&lt;br /&gt;
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Threads/Folders on the tuning list:&lt;br /&gt;
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Latest revision as of 20:55, 12 December 2023

Musical cells[idiosyncratic term] are a system of Mario Pizarro for constructing well temperaments. Recently he has connected this to a system of stretched octaves he calls "toctaves"[idiosyncratic term]. This is discussed on The corrected progression of musical cells.

Musical cells

Pizarro's musical cells are based on a set of three commas:

  • M: (38 × 5)/215 (schisma);
  • J: (225 × 21/4)/(313 × 52);
  • U: (212 × 52 × 31/2)/311.

Using combinations of these commas, he defined two "semitone factors" K and P, which he then put together to from the Piagui scale. This well-tempered scale follows an 8L 4s pattern, with large steps K and small steps P. There are three variants (rotations) of this scale: Piagui I (KKP KKP KKP KKP), Piagui II (KPK KPK KPK KPK) and Piagui III (PKK PKK PKK PKK).

Toctave

The toctave (short for "True Octave") is a frequency ratio of 27 * 2^(1/4) / 16 (ca. 1205.865 cents) which Pizarro came up with in connection with his theory of musical cells.

[math]\displaystyle{ Toctave=\frac{27}{16}\sqrt[4]{2} \approx 2.0067870065670918\dots }[/math]

This is 1/4 of a Pythagorean comma sharp.

Threads/Folders on the tuning list:

See also