Val: Revision history

8 May 2026

• curprev 13:1713:17, 8 May 2026 Eufalesio talk contribs 24,326 bytes −631 →Relationship with equal temperaments: Improve readability Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 02:1502:15, 8 May 2026 Godtone talk contribs 24,957 bytes −1,388 this "Mathematical definition" seems to restate fairly trivial information in a verbose and technical way. the only real information given is linearity, which is already mentioned elsewhere

7 May 2026

• curprev 21:0421:04, 7 May 2026 FloraC talk contribs 26,345 bytes +688 Rework. See talk
• curprev 20:3720:37, 7 May 2026 FloraC talk contribs 25,657 bytes −336 Undo. See talk Tag: Undo
• curprev 19:5819:58, 7 May 2026 Godtone talk contribs 25,993 bytes +336 the example discussed should be mentioned to help the reader connect more dots. also, "frequency ratios" is two words that are so self-evident that they clearly explain the concept as contrasted to "interval" where even experts get confused for negative intervals Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 18:4818:48, 7 May 2026 FloraC talk contribs 25,657 bytes −336 This is just unnecessary obfuscation Tag: Reverted
• curprev 17:3917:39, 7 May 2026 Godtone talk contribs m 25,993 bytes +325 →Motivation: elaborate

3 May 2026

• curprev 15:2115:21, 3 May 2026 Godtone talk contribs m 25,668 bytes +28 i sincerely believe this wording is more beginner-friendly. i am doing a larger review of the page

29 March 2026

• curprev 00:5300:53, 29 March 2026 Overthink talk contribs 25,640 bytes +24 main article

27 March 2026

• curprev 22:4322:43, 27 March 2026 Overthink talk contribs 25,616 bytes −16 →Examples: link here instead

12 December 2025

• curprev 11:0611:06, 12 December 2025 FloraC talk contribs 25,632 bytes +151 →Shorthand notations: + link to my development on this matter, and misc. cleanup

6 December 2025

• curprev 14:2314:23, 6 December 2025 FloraC talk contribs 25,481 bytes +40 →Shorthand notations: bold lemma at the top of the section

3 December 2025

• curprev 17:5617:56, 3 December 2025 FloraC talk contribs 25,441 bytes +353 + brief intro of a val's form, again mirroring monzo article
• curprev 17:5317:53, 3 December 2025 FloraC talk contribs 25,088 bytes +110 →Examples: + tip mirroring monzo article

2 December 2025

• curprev 09:1009:10, 2 December 2025 FloraC talk contribs 24,978 bytes +304 →Shorthand notations: note some of the implementations

29 November 2025

• curprev 12:1112:11, 29 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 24,674 bytes +60 →Generalized patent vals: rework
• curprev 11:4611:46, 29 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 24,614 bytes +210 →Examples: add back what's left out by removing the other example
• curprev 11:4211:42, 29 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 24,404 bytes −6 More consolidation
• curprev 11:4011:40, 29 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 24,410 bytes −1,209 →Applications: don't need another example

28 November 2025

• curprev 12:0912:09, 28 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 25,619 bytes −744 Consolidate discussions on wart notation and others. It makes no sense to separate them.
• curprev 11:3511:35, 28 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 26,363 bytes −75 Vals in non-prime-limit spaces are part of generalizations
• curprev 11:2111:21, 28 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 26,438 bytes +65 →Importance: -> relationship with equal temperaments. This section is still particularly problematic tho
• curprev 11:1611:16, 28 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs m 26,373 bytes +1 - typo
• curprev 11:1511:15, 28 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 26,372 bytes −76 Structural improvements for the examples
• curprev 10:2310:23, 28 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 26,448 bytes −661 Cleanup +1 / make this more encyclopedic
• curprev 09:5409:54, 28 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 27,109 bytes −204 Preliminary cleanup on this mess

15 June 2025

• curprev 03:1903:19, 15 June 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 27,313 bytes +544 No edit summary Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 03:1403:14, 15 June 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 26,769 bytes −2 the usage of a val explicitly prioritizes *representing* JI over *approximating* it Tag: Visual edit

16 May 2025

• curprev 05:3805:38, 16 May 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 26,771 bytes +72 No edit summary Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 05:3505:35, 16 May 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 26,699 bytes −702 moved the stuff that was already on the page to the generalizations section Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 05:2305:23, 16 May 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 27,401 bytes −19 No edit summary Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 05:2205:22, 16 May 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 27,420 bytes +1,499 No edit summary Tag: Visual edit

16 April 2025

• curprev 08:1108:11, 16 April 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 25,921 bytes +95 No edit summary Tag: Visual edit

15 April 2025

• curprev 18:3018:30, 15 April 2025 Godtone talk contribs m 25,826 bytes +103 this is a nonstandard usage; asking whether FloraC personally uses the term that way is different from asking whether she thinks this edit was warranted. Tag: Undo
• curprev 08:5508:55, 15 April 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 25,723 bytes −103 FloraC considers covectors specifying tunings in cents (which can be non-integers) to be "vals" Tags: Reverted Visual edit

27 March 2025

• curprev 20:0920:09, 27 March 2025 Godtone talk contribs m 25,826 bytes −51 this significantly complicates the sentence unnecessarily, and most people would consider basic arithmetic failing a "contradiction" Tag: Undo
• curprev 19:4219:42, 27 March 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 25,877 bytes +51 inconsistencies aren't "contradictions" per-se, or at least I'd prefer to explain what the contradiction is in more detail Tags: Visual edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit

30 January 2025

• curprev 18:5418:54, 30 January 2025 Godtone talk contribs 25,826 bytes +300 add explanation here
• curprev 18:4318:43, 30 January 2025 Godtone talk contribs m 25,526 bytes 0 correction

15 October 2024

• curprev 21:3721:37, 15 October 2024 Godtone talk contribs m 25,526 bytes +1 →Definition: missing bracket

3 September 2024

• curprev 16:0916:09, 3 September 2024 Godtone talk contribs 25,525 bytes −294 →Using a val: restore changes
• curprev 16:0716:07, 3 September 2024 Godtone talk contribs 25,819 bytes +598 the frequency ratios help ground the abstract mathematics in music to a beginner, so should be included. i will re-add the other changes in the next edit though Tag: Undo
• curprev 07:3707:37, 3 September 2024 FloraC talk contribs 25,221 bytes −598 I don't think you should try explaining backslash notation when you can link. You should also declare it before using it.
• curprev 07:1907:19, 3 September 2024 FloraC talk contribs 25,819 bytes −117 Not sure why giving a "bad" example in the first place so that you have to include the twist of logic. Amend it by plainly stating what we mind and what we don't. Cleanup +1
• curprev 06:5806:58, 3 September 2024 FloraC talk contribs 25,936 bytes −132 This is just unencyclopedic writing
• curprev 00:1200:12, 3 September 2024 Godtone talk contribs m 26,068 bytes −1 →Importance: clearer order by putting the single word as the first entry of the slash. also because (simple)/(musically relevant) and (simple)/(musically) relevant both lead to correct sentences with correct meaning
• curprev 00:0000:00, 3 September 2024 Godtone talk contribs m 26,069 bytes +9 →Using a val: stating an equivalent in words immediately was a bit confusing especially given it cut off on my screen so this should be better

2 September 2024

• curprev 23:5523:55, 2 September 2024 Godtone talk contribs m 26,060 bytes +7 →Definition: i don't see any referent to 26edo being used as the example prior to where we state that prime 2 is mapped to 26 steps, which is disorientating, hence i've restored its correct place in the title. i know it's inelegant, but elegance is not the chiefest concern here. 26edo was picked for a small tuning that shows an inconsistency in the 5-limit which one might nonetheless want to use the 5-limit approximations for, so is not that arbitrary under closer analysis anyways
• curprev 23:5223:52, 2 September 2024 Godtone talk contribs m 26,053 bytes −41 this is the second time something from the summary that i decided not to include has appeared on the page. am i really that careless or is this an obscure bug?
• curprev 23:5123:51, 2 September 2024 Godtone talk contribs m 26,094 bytes −4 →Using a val: unlink "backslash notation" as rn what it links to is so terrible that i dont know how to even fix it, and a proper and clear definition is immediately given anyways, hence why i didnt link it in the first place