Val: Revision history

19 July 2026

• curprev 06:1606:16, 19 July 2026 Godtone talk contribs 24,925 bytes +599 Undo revision and remove technical usage of term "inconsistent" that causes confusion, let me know what you think is most confusing and what you feel is most valuable of what i am reverting and we can brainstorm the section

8 May 2026

• curprev 13:1713:17, 8 May 2026 Eufalesio talk contribs 24,326 bytes −631 →Relationship with equal temperaments: Improve readability Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 02:1502:15, 8 May 2026 Godtone talk contribs 24,957 bytes −1,388 this "Mathematical definition" seems to restate fairly trivial information in a verbose and technical way. the only real information given is linearity, which is already mentioned elsewhere

7 May 2026

• curprev 21:0421:04, 7 May 2026 FloraC talk contribs 26,345 bytes +688 Rework. See talk
• curprev 20:3720:37, 7 May 2026 FloraC talk contribs 25,657 bytes −336 Undo. See talk Tag: Undo
• curprev 19:5819:58, 7 May 2026 Godtone talk contribs 25,993 bytes +336 the example discussed should be mentioned to help the reader connect more dots. also, "frequency ratios" is two words that are so self-evident that they clearly explain the concept as contrasted to "interval" where even experts get confused for negative intervals Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 18:4818:48, 7 May 2026 FloraC talk contribs 25,657 bytes −336 This is just unnecessary obfuscation Tag: Reverted
• curprev 17:3917:39, 7 May 2026 Godtone talk contribs m 25,993 bytes +325 →Motivation: elaborate

3 May 2026

• curprev 15:2115:21, 3 May 2026 Godtone talk contribs m 25,668 bytes +28 i sincerely believe this wording is more beginner-friendly. i am doing a larger review of the page

29 March 2026

• curprev 00:5300:53, 29 March 2026 Overthink talk contribs 25,640 bytes +24 main article

27 March 2026

• curprev 22:4322:43, 27 March 2026 Overthink talk contribs 25,616 bytes −16 →Examples: link here instead

12 December 2025

• curprev 11:0611:06, 12 December 2025 FloraC talk contribs 25,632 bytes +151 →Shorthand notations: + link to my development on this matter, and misc. cleanup

6 December 2025

• curprev 14:2314:23, 6 December 2025 FloraC talk contribs 25,481 bytes +40 →Shorthand notations: bold lemma at the top of the section

3 December 2025

• curprev 17:5617:56, 3 December 2025 FloraC talk contribs 25,441 bytes +353 + brief intro of a val's form, again mirroring monzo article
• curprev 17:5317:53, 3 December 2025 FloraC talk contribs 25,088 bytes +110 →Examples: + tip mirroring monzo article

2 December 2025

• curprev 09:1009:10, 2 December 2025 FloraC talk contribs 24,978 bytes +304 →Shorthand notations: note some of the implementations

29 November 2025

• curprev 12:1112:11, 29 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 24,674 bytes +60 →Generalized patent vals: rework
• curprev 11:4611:46, 29 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 24,614 bytes +210 →Examples: add back what's left out by removing the other example
• curprev 11:4211:42, 29 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 24,404 bytes −6 More consolidation
• curprev 11:4011:40, 29 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 24,410 bytes −1,209 →Applications: don't need another example

28 November 2025

• curprev 12:0912:09, 28 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 25,619 bytes −744 Consolidate discussions on wart notation and others. It makes no sense to separate them.
• curprev 11:3511:35, 28 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 26,363 bytes −75 Vals in non-prime-limit spaces are part of generalizations
• curprev 11:2111:21, 28 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 26,438 bytes +65 →Importance: -> relationship with equal temperaments. This section is still particularly problematic tho
• curprev 11:1611:16, 28 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs m 26,373 bytes +1 - typo
• curprev 11:1511:15, 28 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 26,372 bytes −76 Structural improvements for the examples
• curprev 10:2310:23, 28 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 26,448 bytes −661 Cleanup +1 / make this more encyclopedic
• curprev 09:5409:54, 28 November 2025 FloraC talk contribs 27,109 bytes −204 Preliminary cleanup on this mess

15 June 2025

• curprev 03:1903:19, 15 June 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 27,313 bytes +544 No edit summary Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 03:1403:14, 15 June 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 26,769 bytes −2 the usage of a val explicitly prioritizes *representing* JI over *approximating* it Tag: Visual edit

16 May 2025

• curprev 05:3805:38, 16 May 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 26,771 bytes +72 No edit summary Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 05:3505:35, 16 May 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 26,699 bytes −702 moved the stuff that was already on the page to the generalizations section Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 05:2305:23, 16 May 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 27,401 bytes −19 No edit summary Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 05:2205:22, 16 May 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 27,420 bytes +1,499 No edit summary Tag: Visual edit

16 April 2025

• curprev 08:1108:11, 16 April 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 25,921 bytes +95 No edit summary Tag: Visual edit

15 April 2025

• curprev 18:3018:30, 15 April 2025 Godtone talk contribs m 25,826 bytes +103 this is a nonstandard usage; asking whether FloraC personally uses the term that way is different from asking whether she thinks this edit was warranted. Tag: Undo
• curprev 08:5508:55, 15 April 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 25,723 bytes −103 FloraC considers covectors specifying tunings in cents (which can be non-integers) to be "vals" Tags: Reverted Visual edit

27 March 2025

• curprev 20:0920:09, 27 March 2025 Godtone talk contribs m 25,826 bytes −51 this significantly complicates the sentence unnecessarily, and most people would consider basic arithmetic failing a "contradiction" Tag: Undo
• curprev 19:4219:42, 27 March 2025 VectorGraphics talk contribs 25,877 bytes +51 inconsistencies aren't "contradictions" per-se, or at least I'd prefer to explain what the contradiction is in more detail Tags: Visual edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit

30 January 2025

• curprev 18:5418:54, 30 January 2025 Godtone talk contribs 25,826 bytes +300 add explanation here
• curprev 18:4318:43, 30 January 2025 Godtone talk contribs m 25,526 bytes 0 correction

15 October 2024

• curprev 21:3721:37, 15 October 2024 Godtone talk contribs m 25,526 bytes +1 →Definition: missing bracket

3 September 2024

• curprev 16:0916:09, 3 September 2024 Godtone talk contribs 25,525 bytes −294 →Using a val: restore changes
• curprev 16:0716:07, 3 September 2024 Godtone talk contribs 25,819 bytes +598 the frequency ratios help ground the abstract mathematics in music to a beginner, so should be included. i will re-add the other changes in the next edit though Tag: Undo
• curprev 07:3707:37, 3 September 2024 FloraC talk contribs 25,221 bytes −598 I don't think you should try explaining backslash notation when you can link. You should also declare it before using it.
• curprev 07:1907:19, 3 September 2024 FloraC talk contribs 25,819 bytes −117 Not sure why giving a "bad" example in the first place so that you have to include the twist of logic. Amend it by plainly stating what we mind and what we don't. Cleanup +1
• curprev 06:5806:58, 3 September 2024 FloraC talk contribs 25,936 bytes −132 This is just unencyclopedic writing
• curprev 00:1200:12, 3 September 2024 Godtone talk contribs m 26,068 bytes −1 →Importance: clearer order by putting the single word as the first entry of the slash. also because (simple)/(musically relevant) and (simple)/(musically) relevant both lead to correct sentences with correct meaning
• curprev 00:0000:00, 3 September 2024 Godtone talk contribs m 26,069 bytes +9 →Using a val: stating an equivalent in words immediately was a bit confusing especially given it cut off on my screen so this should be better

2 September 2024

• curprev 23:5523:55, 2 September 2024 Godtone talk contribs m 26,060 bytes +7 →Definition: i don't see any referent to 26edo being used as the example prior to where we state that prime 2 is mapped to 26 steps, which is disorientating, hence i've restored its correct place in the title. i know it's inelegant, but elegance is not the chiefest concern here. 26edo was picked for a small tuning that shows an inconsistency in the 5-limit which one might nonetheless want to use the 5-limit approximations for, so is not that arbitrary under closer analysis anyways
• curprev 23:5223:52, 2 September 2024 Godtone talk contribs m 26,053 bytes −41 this is the second time something from the summary that i decided not to include has appeared on the page. am i really that careless or is this an obscure bug?