User talk:FloraC/Sandbox

Collapsible elements

I find it not optimal to have expand links displayed without visual connection to the text (standing lonely in the nowhere). What about adding some border (maybe background as well) to the collapsible/expandable divs? --Xenwolf (talk) 17:29, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Not clear to me though. Maybe you just do the edit? FloraC (talk) 07:43, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Instead of adding/discussing isolated CSS features, let's have a look at Wikipedia: Musical tuning #Further reading. Would you agree that we should aim for a design that is roughly equivalent to what Wikipedia has to offer? --Xenwolf (talk) 17:02, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Just roughly. To my eyes the current design works okay, and if it's to be improved, I'm not fond of the colored background against the text. Anyway, I'll try making a template for this. FloraC (talk) 18:15, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

EDOs vs. Vals

I see your point. I know that the "warts" notation is a shorthand for vals. I think we should branch a Template:Vals for that. There are places where we already (and will further) use EDOs. In temperament properties we should switch from EDOs to Vals and at the same time prepare EDO pages to mitigate confusion. Until now there is (to my knowledge) no EDO page with a "Vals" section. The page val itself is also not ready to "catch" an in-going link that should be descriptive for an enumeration of EDOs/vals. --Xenwolf (talk) 07:52, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Now I see that I already planned to change Template:Primes in edo accordingly: see User:Xenwolf/Fifthspan#Separate mod steps (second table) with the linked "patent val". If EDOs with notable non-patent vals will develop a section about that fact and if on, the other hand, also EDO pages will start with the prime iontervals table (I see a tendency toward this), we will see the relation between EDOs, vals and temperaments optimally represented in the wiki. --Xenwolf (talk) 08:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

So new template for sure, but where will it be linked to? FloraC (talk) 08:48, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Maybe in a way like this: [[Val|Vals]]: [[24edo#Vals|24p]], [[135edo#Vals|135p]], [[159edo|159]], [[183edo|183]], etc.?
Or maybe better with [[Val|EDO vals]]: before the list?
However, it seems to me that the val article we want to link to doesn't really welcome newbies, this is especially true for the "defining" section:
A val is a map^? representing^(?) how to (view the intervals)^? in a (single^(?) chain)^? of generators^? as the tempered^? versions of intervals in just intonation^(?)
...I tried to give an impression of the known-to-unknown ratio in the first sentence. This is what I hate about the writing style of mathematicians: you are given the impression that you have to know all the parts of a concept before you can understand any one of them.
So there is still something to do. --Xenwolf (talk) 17:15, 3 February 2021 (UTC)