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## millioctave

The millioctave should better not be considered as an example of a relative cent measure.

- xenwolf September 21, 2011, 11:19:23 PM UTC-0700

It makes just as much sense as Turk cents, doesn't it?

- genewardsmith September 22, 2011, 03:00:36 AM UTC-0700

No. I think that the special meaning of the octave is widely accepted,

also in xenharmonic context (The existence of terms like nonoctave and

edonoi seem to confirm this). The dominance of the decimal system needs

no discussion here, it's of course used in cent values etc.

Millioctaves are scaled binary logarithms and can therefore be

"calculated" easily by shifting the decimal point.

The fact that millioctaves are not used is another matter entirely.

I'd prefer not to mix non-cent interval measures with relative cents (rc),

because rc are also usable for an easy comparison of the usability of

edos for a given just interval, which is not the case for millioctaves.

- xenwolf September 23, 2011, 02:37:14 AM UTC-0700

I do not see the point. Mathematically, a millioctave is exactly the same as a relative cent for 10edo.

- hstraub September 23, 2011, 05:31:31 AM UTC-0700

Absolutely, the size of the relative cent in 10-edo is exactly 1 millioctave.

But: Mostly it's not the numerical value of an object that governs which word we use for it, but the context in which it is used.

In programming, you'll seldom use

1. define TWO 2

In every-day life you'll rarely name tools after their price.

Granted, there are exceptions:

I think of these occasions where you choose Books by weight (for pressing plant parts), or by thickness (as cabinet leg replacement) ;)

- xenwolf September 23, 2011, 08:39:50 AM UTC-0700

## Origin of term relative cents

This was proposed some years back.

- genewardsmith May 26, 2011, 04:46:44 PM UTC-0700

Sorry, I didn't know that. It was before my time here.

- xenwolf May 27, 2011, 12:19:26 AM UTC-0700