Kite's thoughts on 31edo brass instruments
See Kite's thoughts on 41edo brass instruments for the reasoning behind these calculations.
Approximating 2\31 as 43/41 gives us these valve lengths:
| valve | edosteps | ratio | cents | as 31edo |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1st | 2 | 43/41 | 82.5 | 2\31 + 5.0¢ |
| 2nd | 3 | 44/41 | 122.3 | 3\31 + 6.1¢ |
| 3rd | 4 | 45/41 | 161.2 | 4\31 + 6.3¢ |
| 4th | 8 | 49/41 | 308.6 | 8\31 - 1.1¢ |
These valves make the subharmonic series 15-note fragment 58::41, with 57 and 42 missing. In the chart below, ○ is a closed/released valve, and ● is an open/depressed valve. The 3 largest errors are bolded. Notes are for a Bb trumpet.
The intervals are descending so 82.5¢ means 82.5¢ below the unvalved note. Thus the error is the opposite sign from what one expects. For example, the 1st valve lowers by 82.5¢, 5¢ wider than 2\31, thus the note is 5¢ flat of 31edo.
Note that both 52/41 and 53/41 map to 11\31. Thus 4+8 = 11, 2+3+8 = 12, etc.
| edosteps
to lower by |
valves | subhar-
monics |
as a
ratio |
cents | error
from 31 |
harmonics | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | ||||||||
| 0 | 0 | ○○○○ | 41 | 1/1 | 0.0 | 0.0 | F | ^A# Bb | D | F | G# vAb | ^A# Bb | C | |
| 2 | 2 | ●○○○ | 43 | 43/41 | 82.5 | -5.0 | ^E | ^A | ^C# Db | ^E | G | ^A | ^B | |
| 3 | 3 | ○●○○ | 44 | 44/41 | 122.3 | -6.1 | E | A | C# vDb | E | vG | A | B | |
| 4 | 4 | ○○●○ | 45 | 45/41 | 161.2 | -6.3 | vE | vA | ^C | vE | ^F# Gb | vA | vB | |
| 5 | 2+3 | ●●○○ | 46 | 46/41 | 199.2 | -5.7 | ^D# Eb | ^G# Ab | C | ^D# Eb | F# vGb | ^G# Ab | ^A# Bb | |
| 6 | 2+4 | ●○●○ | 47 | 47/41 | 236.4 | -4.2 | D# vEb | G# vAb | vC | D# vEb | ^F | G# vAb | A# vBb | |
| 7 | 3+4 | ○●●○ | 48 | 48/41 | 272.9 | -1.9 | ^D | ^G | ^B | ^D | F | ^G | ^A | |
| 8 | 8 | ○○○● | 49 | 49/41 | 308.6 | 1.1 | D | G | B | D | vF | G | A | |
| 9 | 2+3+4 | ●●●○ | 50 | 50/41 | 343.6 | 4.8 | vD | vG | vB | vD | ^E | vG | vA | |
| 10 | 2+8 | ●○○● | 51 | 51/41 | 377.8 | 9.2 | ^C# Db | ^F# Gb | ^A# Bb | ^C# Db | E | ^F# Gb | ^G# Ab | |
| 11 | 3+8 | ○●○● | 52 | 52/41 | 411.5 | 14.3 | C# vDb | F# vGb | A# vBb | C# vDb | vE | F# vGb | G# vAb | |
| 4+8 | ○○●● | 53 | 53/41 | 444.4 | -18.6 | |||||||||
| 12 | 2+3+8 | ●●○● | 54 | 54/41 | 476.8 | -12.3 | ^C | ^F | ^A | ^C | ^D# Eb | ^F | ^G | |
| 13 | 2+4+8 | ●○●● | 55 | 55/41 | 508.6 | -5.3 | C | F | A | C | D# vEb | F | G | |
| 14 | 3+4+8 | ○●●● | 56 | 56/41 | 539.8 | 2.2 | vC | vF | vA | vC | ^D | vF | vG | |
| 16 | 2+3+4+8 | ●●●● | 58 | 58/41 | 600.5 | 18.8 | B | E | G# vAb | B | vD | E | F# | |
Here are the full 2 octaves produced by a Bb trumpet. Note that the bolded notes for the three largest errors often have alternative notes.
| 31-edo
gamut |
harmonics | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | |
| C | C | ||||||
| (missing) | |||||||
| ^B | |||||||
| B | B | ||||||
| vB | |||||||
| ^A# Bb | ^A# Bb | ||||||
| A# vBb | |||||||
| ^A | ^A | ||||||
| A | A | A | |||||
| vA | vA | ||||||
| ^G# Ab | ^G# Ab | ||||||
| G# vAb | G# vAb | G# vAb | |||||
| ^G | ^G | ||||||
| G | G | G | G | ||||
| vG | vG | vG | |||||
| ^F# Gb | ^F# Gb | ||||||
| F# vGb | F# vGb | F# | |||||
| ^F | ^F | ||||||
| F | F | F | F | ||||
| vF | vF | ||||||
| ^E | ^E | ||||||
| E | E | E | E | ||||
| vE | vE | ||||||
| ^D# Eb | ^D# Eb | ||||||
| D# vEb | D# vEb | ||||||
| ^D | ^D | ||||||
| D | D | D | |||||
| vD | vD | ||||||
| ^C# Db | ^C# Db | ||||||
| C# vDb | C# vDb | ||||||
| ^C | ^C | ||||||
| C | C | C | |||||
| vC | vC | ||||||
| ^B | |||||||
| B | B | B | |||||
| vB | |||||||
| ^A# Bb | ^A# Bb | ||||||
| A# vBb | |||||||
| ^A | ^A | ||||||
| A | A | A | |||||
| vA | vA | ||||||
| ^G# Ab | |||||||
| G# vAb | G# vAb | ||||||
| ^G | |||||||
| G | G | ||||||
| vG | |||||||
| ^F# Gb | |||||||
| F# vGb | |||||||
| ^F | |||||||
| F | F | F | |||||
| vF | |||||||
| ^E | |||||||
| E | E | E | |||||
| vE | |||||||
| ^D# Eb | |||||||
| D# vEb | |||||||
| ^D | |||||||
| D | D | ||||||
| vD | |||||||
| ^C# Db | |||||||
| C# vDb | |||||||
| ^C | |||||||
| C | C | ||||||
| vC | |||||||
| (missing) | |||||||
| B | B | ||||||