User talk:Aura/Aura's Ideas on Tonality

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exponential syntax

instead of writing 11*3/2*10 which most people will read as multiplication, use 11^3/2^10 or 11**3/2**10 or 113/210. --Xenwolf (talk) 19:15, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm in the process of correcting stuff to make the system more consistent right now, so I'll get to this in a bit. --Aura (talk) 19:40, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Interval table

I'd say that adding interval sizes could be of use, even cent precision would do, something like this:

Ratio Cents Interval Name(s)
33/32 53 Alpharabian Superprime, Alpharabian Parachromatic Quartertone, al-Farabi Quartertone
1089/1024 107 Alpharabian Augmented Unison, Alpharabian Chromatic Semitone
4096/3993 44 Alpharabian Subminor Second, Alpharabian Paradiatonic Quartertone
128/121 97 Alpharabian Minor Second, Alpharabian Diatonic Semitone
12/11 151 Lesser Alpharabian Neutral Second
88/81 143 Greater Alpharabian Neutral Second
297/256 257 Alpharabian Supermajor Second
1024/891 241 Alpharabian Subminor Third
144/121 301 Alpharabian Minor Third
11/9 347 Lesser Alpharabian Neutral Third
27/22 355 Greater Alpharabian Neutral Third
121/96 401 Alpharabian Major Third
2673/2048 461 Alpharabian Supermajor Third
128/99 445 Alpharabian Paraminor Fourth
11/8 551 Alpharabian Paramajor Fourth, Just Paramajor Fourth
363/256 605 Alpharabian Augmented Fourth
512/363 595 Alpharabian Diminished Fifth
16/11 649 Alpharabian Paraminor Fifth, Just Paraminor Fifth
99/64 755 Alpharabian Paramajor Fifth
4096/2673 739 Alpharabian Subminor Sixth
192/121 799 Alpharabian Minor Sixth
44/27 845 Lesser Alpharabian Neutral Sixth
18/11 853 Greater Alpharabian Neutral Sixth
121/72 899 Alpharabian Major Sixth
891/512 959 Alpharabian Supermajor Sixth
512/297 943 Alpharabian Subminor Seventh
81/44 1057 Lesser Alpharabian Neutral Seventh
11/6 1049 Greater Alpharabian Neutral Seventh
121/64 1103 Alpharabian Major Seventh
3993/2048 1156 Alpharabian Supermajor Seventh
2401/1089 1369 Alpharabian Diminished Octave
64/33 1147 Alpharabian Suboctave

Hope that helps. --Xenwolf (talk) 19:36, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

While one one hand, it does help, on the other hand, the need to fix the consistency issues with names is a factor at play right now. Furthermore, I have discovered that there are more intervals that need to be added to the list. --Aura (talk) 19:40, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

table syntax and column alignment

Table heading cells are marked with an exclamation mark at the beginning of the line, there's no need for an additional pipe char if there are no class or style attributes. Column alignment is done by adding more classes after wikitable, separated by spaces. Numbers with a fixed amount of decimals (2nd column) should be right-aligned (right-2). Ratios (1st column) look best if center-aligned (center-1).

Therefore I suggest to replace

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!| Interval
!| Cents
!| Names
|-

by this

{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2"
|-
! Interval
! Cents
! Names
|-

And finally let me add that a 6-decimal doesn't add anything if the minimal differences is more than 2 cents. It's only harder to separate significant information from the insignificant one when reading, IOW the excessive precision just adds noise here:

Interval Cents Names
1331/1296 46.133824 Alpharabian Superprime
33/32 53.272943 Alpharabian Parasuperprime, Alpharabian Parachromatic Quartertone, al-Farabi Quartertone
1089/1024 106.545886 Alpharabian Augmented Unison, Alpharabian Chromatic Semitone
8192/8019 36.952052 Alpharabian Parasubminor Second
4096/3993 44.091172 Alpharabian Subminor Second, Alpharabian Paradiatonic Quartertone
128/121 97.364115 Alpharabian Minor Second, Alpharabian Diatonic Semitone
88/81 143.497938 Lesser Alpharabian Neutral Second
12/11 150.637059 Greater Alpharabian Neutral Second
1331/1152 250.043825 Alpharabian Supermajor Second
297/256 257.182945 Alpharabian Parasupermajor Second
1024/891 240.862054 Alpharabian Parasubminor Third
1536/1331 248.001174 Alpharabian Subminor Third
144/121 301.274117 Alpharabian Minor Third
11/9 347.407941 Lesser Alpharabian Neutral Third
27/22 354.547060 Greater Alpharabian Neutral Third
121/96 400.680884 Alpharabian Major Third
1331/1024 453.953827 Alpharabian Supermajor Third
2673/2048 461.092947 Alpharabian Parasupermajor Third
128/99 444.772056 Alpharabian Paraminor Fourth
11/8 551.317942 Alpharabian Paramajor Fourth, Just Paramajor Fourth
363/256 604.590886 Alpharabian Augmented Fourth
512/363 595.409114 Alpharabian Diminished Fifth
16/11 648.682058 Alpharabian Paraminor Fifth, Just Paraminor Fifth
99/64 755.227944 Alpharabian Paramajor Fifth
4096/2673 738.907053 Alpharabian Parasubminor Sixth
2048/1331 746.046173 Alpharabian Subminor Sixth
192/121 799.319116 Alpharabian Minor Sixth
44/27 845.452940 Lesser Alpharabian Neutral Sixth
18/11 852.592059 Greater Alpharabian Neutral Sixth
121/72 898.725883 Alpharabian Major Sixth
1331/768 951.998826 Alpharabian Supermajor Sixth
891/512 959.137946 Alpharabian Parasupermajor Sixth
512/297 942.817055 Alpharabian Parasubminor Seventh
2304/1331 949.956175 Alpharabian Subminor Seventh
11/6 1,049.362941 Lesser Alpharabian Neutral Seventh
81/44 1,056.502061 Greater Alpharabian Neutral Seventh
121/64 1,102.635885 Alpharabian Major Seventh
3993/2048 1,155.908828 Alpharabian Supermajor Seventh
8019/4096 1,163.047948 Alpharabian Parasupermajor Seventh
2048/1089 1,093.454114 Alpharabian Diminished Octave
64/33 1,146.727057 Alpharabian Parasuboctave
2592/1331 1,153.866176 Alpharabian Suboctave

Hope that helps. --Xenwolf (talk) 06:06, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

On one level, it does, and for that I thank you. However, when it comes to the precision in terms of cents, the precision in cent size is meant to be compatible with that found on the Gallery of just intervals page. That way, assuming there are no more errors in the table, you can take the info out of here and place it in the table on the Gallery of just intervals page. --Aura (talk) 06:27, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
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