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This is the MOS pattern of the Pythagorean/[[Schismatic family|schismatic/Helmholtz/Garibaldi]] chromatic scale, and also the [[Archytas clan|superpyth]] chromatic scale. In contrast to the [[7L 5s|meantone chromatic scale]], in which "diatonic" semitones are larger than "chromatic" semitones, here the reverse is true: diatonic semitones are smaller than chromatic semitones, so the [[5L 2s|diatonic scale]] subset is actually [[Rothenberg propriety|improper]].

The two distinct harmonic entropy minima with this MOS pattern are, on the one hand, scales very close to Pythagorean such that 64/63 is not tempered out, such as the schismatic temperaments known as "Helmholtz" and "Garibaldi", and on the other hand, the much simpler scale known as "superpyth" in which 64/63 is tempered out.

The Pythagorean/schismatic version is proper, but the superpyth version is improper (it doesn't become proper until you add 5 more notes to form the superpyth "enharmonic" scale, superpyth[17]).

||||||||||~ Generator ||~ in cents ||~ Comments ||
||= 5\12 ||=   ||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 500.000 ||=   ||
||=   ||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 22\53 ||= 498.113 ||= Pythagorean/Helmholtz/Garibaldi
is around here ||
||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 17\41 ||=   ||= 497.591 ||=   ||
||=   ||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 29\70 ||= 497.143 ||=   ||
||=   ||=   ||= 12\29 ||=   ||=   ||= 496.552 ||=   ||
||=   ||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 31\75 ||= 496.000 ||=   ||
||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 19\46 ||=   ||= 495.652 ||=   ||
||=   ||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 26\63 ||= 495.238 ||=   ||
||=   ||= 7\17 ||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 494.118 ||= Boundary of propriety (generators
larger than this are proper) ||
||=   ||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 23\56 ||= 492.857 ||=   ||
||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 16\39 ||=   ||= 492.308 ||=   ||
||=   ||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 25\61 ||= 491.803 ||=   ||
||=   ||=   ||= 9\22 ||=   ||=   ||= 490.909 ||= Superpyth is in this region ||
||=   ||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 20\49 ||= 489.796 ||=   ||
||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 11\27 ||=   ||= 488.889 ||=   ||
||=   ||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 13\32 ||= 487.500 ||=   ||
||= 2\5 ||=   ||=   ||=   ||=   ||= 480.000 ||=   ||

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<html><head><title>5L 7s</title></head><body>This is the MOS pattern of the Pythagorean/<a class="wiki_link" href="/Schismatic%20family">schismatic/Helmholtz/Garibaldi</a> chromatic scale, and also the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Archytas%20clan">superpyth</a> chromatic scale. In contrast to the <a class="wiki_link" href="/7L%205s">meantone chromatic scale</a>, in which &quot;diatonic&quot; semitones are larger than &quot;chromatic&quot; semitones, here the reverse is true: diatonic semitones are smaller than chromatic semitones, so the <a class="wiki_link" href="/5L%202s">diatonic scale</a> subset is actually <a class="wiki_link" href="/Rothenberg%20propriety">improper</a>.<br />
<br />
The two distinct harmonic entropy minima with this MOS pattern are, on the one hand, scales very close to Pythagorean such that 64/63 is not tempered out, such as the schismatic temperaments known as &quot;Helmholtz&quot; and &quot;Garibaldi&quot;, and on the other hand, the much simpler scale known as &quot;superpyth&quot; in which 64/63 is tempered out.<br />
<br />
The Pythagorean/schismatic version is proper, but the superpyth version is improper (it doesn't become proper until you add 5 more notes to form the superpyth &quot;enharmonic&quot; scale, superpyth[17]).<br />
<br />


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    <tr>
        <th colspan="5">Generator<br />
</th>
        <th>in cents<br />
</th>
        <th>Comments<br />
</th>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">5\12<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">500.000<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">22\53<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">498.113<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Pythagorean/Helmholtz/Garibaldi<br />
is around here<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">17\41<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">497.591<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">29\70<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">497.143<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">12\29<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">496.552<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">31\75<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">496.000<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">19\46<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">495.652<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">26\63<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">495.238<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">7\17<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">494.118<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Boundary of propriety (generators<br />
larger than this are proper)<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">23\56<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">492.857<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">16\39<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">492.308<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">25\61<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">491.803<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">9\22<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">490.909<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Superpyth is in this region<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">20\49<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">489.796<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">11\27<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">488.889<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">13\32<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">487.500<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">2\5<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">480.000<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
    </tr>
</table>

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