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This is the MOS pattern of the Pythagorean/[[Schismatic family|schismatic/Helmholtz/Garibaldi]] chromatic scale, and also the [[Archytas clan|superpyth]] chromatic scale. In contrast to the [[7L 5s|meantone chromatic scale]], in which "diatonic" semitones are larger than "chromatic" semitones, here the reverse is true: diatonic semitones are smaller than chromatic semitones, so the [[5L 2s|diatonic scale]] subset is actually [[Rothenberg propriety|improper]]. The two distinct harmonic entropy minima with this MOS pattern are, on the one hand, scales very close to Pythagorean such that 64/63 is not tempered out, such as the schismatic temperaments known as "Helmholtz" and "Garibaldi", and on the other hand, the much simpler and less accurate scale known as "superpyth" in which 64/63 is tempered out. The Pythagorean/schismatic version is proper, but the superpyth version is improper (it doesn't become proper until you add 5 more notes to form the superpyth "enharmonic" scale, superpyth[17]). ||||||||||||||||~ Generator ||~ in cents ||~ Comments || ||= 5\12 ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||< 500.000 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 27\65 ||= ||= ||< 498.462 ||= Photia || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 49\118 ||= ||< 498.305 ||= Helmholtz/Pontiac/Nestoria || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 71\171 ||< 498.246 ||= Helmholtz/Pontiac/Nestoria || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 22\53 ||= ||= ||= ||< 498.113 ||= Helenus || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 39\94 ||= ||= ||< 497.872 ||= Garibaldi || ||= ||= ||= ||= 17\41 ||= ||= ||= ||= ||< 497.591 ||= Cassandra || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 46\111 ||= ||= ||< 497.297 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 29\70 ||= ||= ||= ||< 497.143 ||= Undecental || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 41\99 ||= ||= ||< 496.97 ||= Undecental || ||= ||= ||= 12\29 ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||< 496.552 ||= Optimum rank range (L/s=3/2) Edson || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 43\104 ||= ||= ||< 496.154 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 31\75 ||= ||= ||= ||< 496.000 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 50\121 ||= ||= ||< 495.868 ||= Leapday/[[Peppermint-24|Peppermint]]/Pepperoni || ||= ||= ||= ||= 19\46 ||= ||= ||= ||= ||< 495.652 ||= Leapday || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 45\109 ||= ||= ||< 495.413 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 26\63 ||= ||= ||= ||< 495.238 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 33\80 ||= ||= ||< 495 ||= || ||= ||= 7\17 ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||< 494.118 ||= Boundary of propriety (generators larger than this are proper) Supraphon || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 30\73 ||= ||= ||< 493.151 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 23\56 ||= ||= ||= ||< 492.857 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 39\95 ||= ||= ||< 492.632 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= 16\39 ||= ||= ||= ||= ||< 492.308 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 41\100 ||= ||= ||< 492 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 25\61 ||= ||= ||= ||< 491.803 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 34\83 ||= ||= ||< 491.566 ||= || ||= ||= ||= 9\22 ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||< 490.909 ||= Suprapyth/Supra || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 29\71 ||= ||= ||< 490.141 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 20\49 ||= ||= ||= ||< 489.796 ||= Superpyth || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 31\76 ||= ||= ||< 489.474 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= 11\27 ||= ||= ||= ||= ||< 488.889 ||= Archy || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 24\59 ||= ||= ||< 488.136 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 13\32 ||= ||= ||= ||< 487.500 ||= || ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= 15\37 ||= ||= ||< 486.486 ||= || ||= 2\5 ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||= ||< 480.000 ||= ||
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<html><head><title>5L 7s</title></head><body>This is the MOS pattern of the Pythagorean/<a class="wiki_link" href="/Schismatic%20family">schismatic/Helmholtz/Garibaldi</a> chromatic scale, and also the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Archytas%20clan">superpyth</a> chromatic scale. In contrast to the <a class="wiki_link" href="/7L%205s">meantone chromatic scale</a>, in which "diatonic" semitones are larger than "chromatic" semitones, here the reverse is true: diatonic semitones are smaller than chromatic semitones, so the <a class="wiki_link" href="/5L%202s">diatonic scale</a> subset is actually <a class="wiki_link" href="/Rothenberg%20propriety">improper</a>.<br />
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The two distinct harmonic entropy minima with this MOS pattern are, on the one hand, scales very close to Pythagorean such that 64/63 is not tempered out, such as the schismatic temperaments known as "Helmholtz" and "Garibaldi", and on the other hand, the much simpler and less accurate scale known as "superpyth" in which 64/63 is tempered out.<br />
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The Pythagorean/schismatic version is proper, but the superpyth version is improper (it doesn't become proper until you add 5 more notes to form the superpyth "enharmonic" scale, superpyth[17]).<br />
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<table class="wiki_table">
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<th colspan="8">Generator<br />
</th>
<th>in cents<br />
</th>
<th>Comments<br />
</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;">5\12<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
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</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
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<td style="text-align: left;">500.000<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
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</td>
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</td>
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<td style="text-align: center;">27\65<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">498.462<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Photia<br />
</td>
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<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
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</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">49\118<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">498.305<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Helmholtz/Pontiac/Nestoria<br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
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</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">71\171<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">498.246<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Helmholtz/Pontiac/Nestoria<br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">22\53<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">498.113<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Helenus<br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">39\94<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">497.872<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Garibaldi<br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">17\41<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">497.591<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Cassandra<br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
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<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">46\111<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">497.297<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
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<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">29\70<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">497.143<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Undecental<br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
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<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
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<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
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<td style="text-align: center;">41\99<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">496.97<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Undecental<br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">12\29<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">496.552<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Optimum rank range (L/s=3/2) Edson<br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">43\104<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">496.154<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">31\75<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">496.000<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
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<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">50\121<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">495.868<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Leapday/<a class="wiki_link" href="/Peppermint-24">Peppermint</a>/Pepperoni<br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">19\46<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">495.652<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Leapday<br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
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</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">45\109<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">495.413<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
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<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">26\63<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">495.238<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
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</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
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</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">33\80<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">495<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">7\17<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
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</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">494.118<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Boundary of propriety (generators<br />
larger than this are proper)<br />
Supraphon<br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
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</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">30\73<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">493.151<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">23\56<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">492.857<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
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</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">39\95<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">492.632<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
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</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">16\39<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">492.308<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
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</td>
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</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">41\100<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">492<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
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</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">25\61<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">491.803<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
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</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">34\83<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">491.566<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
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</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">9\22<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
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</td>
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</td>
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</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">490.909<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Suprapyth/Supra<br />
</td>
</tr>
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<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">29\71<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">490.141<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
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<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
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<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
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<td style="text-align: center;">20\49<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">489.796<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Superpyth<br />
</td>
</tr>
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<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">31\76<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">489.474<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">11\27<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">488.889<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">Archy<br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">24\59<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">488.136<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">13\32<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">487.500<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;">15\37<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">486.486<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="text-align: center;">2\5<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: left;">480.000<br />
</td>
<td style="text-align: center;"><br />
</td>
</tr>
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