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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">In [[Just Intonation]], 5/4 is the frequency ratio between the 5th and 4th harmonics. Measuring about 386., it is about 13.7¢ away from [[12edo]]'s major third of 400¢. It has a distinctive "sweet" sound, and has been described as more "laid back" than its 12edo counterpart. Providing a novel consonance after 3, it is the basis for 5-limit harmony. It is distinguished from the Pythagorean major third of [[81_64|81/64]] by the syntonic comma of [[81_80|81/80]], which measures about 21.5¢. 81/64 and 5/4 are both just intonation "major thirds," 81/64 having a more active and discordant quality, 5/4 sounding more "restful".
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">In [[Just Intonation]], **5/4** is the frequency ratio between the 5th and 4th harmonics. Measuring about 386.3[[Cent|¢]], it is about 13.7¢ away from [[12edo]]'s major third of 400¢. It has a distinctive "sweet" sound, and has been described as more "laid back" than its 12edo counterpart. Providing a novel consonance after 3, it is the basis for [[5-limit]] harmony. It is distinguished from the [[Pythagorean]] major third of [[81_64|81/64]] by the syntonic comma of [[81_80|81/80]], which measures about 21.5¢. 81/64 and 5/4 are both just intonation "major thirds," 81/64 having a more active and discordant quality, 5/4 sounding more "restful".


In the context of the harmonic series, 5/4 can be heard between the 4th and 5th member of the series, demonstrated here melodically in singing into a resonant udderbot (from the fundamental up to 5 and then noodling between 5 and 4). [[file:5-4.mp3]] Hear it?
In the context of the harmonic series, 5/4 can be heard between the 4th and 5th member of the series, demonstrated here melodically in singing into a resonant udderbot (from the fundamental up to 5 and then noodling between 5 and 4). [[file:5-4.mp3]] Hear it?
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See: [[Gallery of Just Intervals|Galley of Just Intervals]]</pre></div>
See: [[Gallery of Just Intervals|Galley of Just Intervals]]</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;5_4&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;In &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20Intonation"&gt;Just Intonation&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;5/4&lt;/strong&gt; is the frequency ratio between the 5th and 4th harmonics. Measuring about 386.3&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Cent"&gt;¢&lt;/a&gt;, it is about 13.7¢ away from &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt;'s major third of 400¢. It has a distinctive &amp;quot;sweet&amp;quot; sound, and has been described as more &amp;quot;laid back&amp;quot; than its 12edo counterpart. Providing a novel consonance after 3, it is the basis for &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; harmony. It is distinguished from the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Pythagorean"&gt;Pythagorean&lt;/a&gt; major third of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/81_64"&gt;81/64&lt;/a&gt; by the syntonic comma of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/81_80"&gt;81/80&lt;/a&gt;, which measures about 21.5¢. 81/64 and 5/4 are both just intonation &amp;quot;major thirds,&amp;quot; 81/64 having a more active and discordant quality, 5/4 sounding more &amp;quot;restful&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Just Intonation]], **5/4** is the frequency ratio between the 5th and 4th harmonics. Measuring about 386.3[[Cent|¢]], it is about 13.7¢ away from [[12edo]]'s major third of 400¢. It has a distinctive "sweet" sound, and has been described as more "laid back" than its 12edo counterpart. Providing a novel consonance after 3, it is the basis for [[5-limit]] harmony. It is distinguished from the [[Pythagorean]] major third of [[81_64|81/64]] by the syntonic comma of [[81_80|81/80]], which measures about 21.5¢. 81/64 and 5/4 are both just intonation "major thirds," 81/64 having a more active and discordant quality, 5/4 sounding more "restful".

In the context of the harmonic series, 5/4 can be heard between the 4th and 5th member of the series, demonstrated here melodically in singing into a resonant udderbot (from the fundamental up to 5 and then noodling between 5 and 4). [[file:5-4.mp3]] Hear it?

5/4 converted to cents (¢): 1200 * log (5/4) / log (2) = 386.314...

When two notes sound a 5/4 together,

5/4 the interval, like all //intervals//, refers to a //relation// between two pitches. We speak of this relation (one pitch beating 5/4 times as fast as the other) after we are able to distinguish it from other relations.

In relation to 12 tone equal, 5/4 is about 13.7¢ flatter than the 4th degree (400¢). 5/4 the interval has been called the //perfect major third// to distinguish it from the other intervals in that neighborhood.

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See: [[Gallery of Just Intervals|Galley of Just Intervals]]

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<html><head><title>5_4</title></head><body>In <a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20Intonation">Just Intonation</a>, <strong>5/4</strong> is the frequency ratio between the 5th and 4th harmonics. Measuring about 386.3<a class="wiki_link" href="/Cent">¢</a>, it is about 13.7¢ away from <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12edo</a>'s major third of 400¢. It has a distinctive &quot;sweet&quot; sound, and has been described as more &quot;laid back&quot; than its 12edo counterpart. Providing a novel consonance after 3, it is the basis for <a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit">5-limit</a> harmony. It is distinguished from the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Pythagorean">Pythagorean</a> major third of <a class="wiki_link" href="/81_64">81/64</a> by the syntonic comma of <a class="wiki_link" href="/81_80">81/80</a>, which measures about 21.5¢. 81/64 and 5/4 are both just intonation &quot;major thirds,&quot; 81/64 having a more active and discordant quality, 5/4 sounding more &quot;restful&quot;.<br />
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5/4 converted to cents (¢): 1200 * log (5/4) / log (2) = 386.314...<br />
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When two notes sound a 5/4 together,<br />
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5/4 the interval, like all <em>intervals</em>, refers to a <em>relation</em> between two pitches. We speak of this relation (one pitch beating 5/4 times as fast as the other) after we are able to distinguish it from other relations.<br />
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In relation to 12 tone equal, 5/4 is about 13.7¢ flatter than the 4th degree (400¢). 5/4 the interval has been called the <em>perfect major third</em> to distinguish it from the other intervals in that neighborhood.<br />
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See: <a class="wiki_link" href="/Gallery%20of%20Just%20Intervals">Galley of Just Intervals</a></body></html>