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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The //30 equal division// divides the octave into 30 equal steps of precisely 40 cents each. Its [[patent val]] is a doubled version of the patent val for [[15edo]] through the 11-limit, so 30 can be viewed as a [[contorted]] version of 15. In the 13-limit it supplies the optimal patent val for [[Trienstonic clan#Quindecic|quindecic temperament]]
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">The //30 equal division// divides the octave into 30 equal steps of precisely 40 cents each. Its [[patent val]] is a doubled version of the patent val for [[15edo]] through the 11-limit, so 30 can be viewed as a [[contorted]] version of 15. In the 13-limit it supplies the optimal patent val for [[Trienstonic clan#Quindecic|quindecic temperament]].


However, 5\30 is 200 cents, which is a good (and familiar) approximation for 9/8, and hence 30 can be viewed inconsistently, as having a 9' at 95\30 as well as a 9 at 96\30. Instead of the 18\30 fifth of 720 cents, 30 also makes available a 17\30 fifth of 680 cents. This is an ideal tuning for pelogic (5-limit mavila), which tempers out 135/128. When 30 is used for pelogic, 5\30 can again be used inconsistently as a 9/8.
However, 5\30 is 200 cents, which is a good (and familiar) approximation for 9/8, and hence 30 can be viewed inconsistently, as having a 9' at 95\30 as well as a 9 at 96\30. Instead of the 18\30 fifth of 720 cents, 30 also makes available a 17\30 fifth of 680 cents. This is an ideal tuning for pelogic (5-limit mavila), which tempers out 135/128. When 30 is used for pelogic, 5\30 can again be used inconsistently as a 9/8.
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=Commas=  
=Commas=  
30 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val &lt; 30 48 70 84 104 111 |.)
30 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val &lt; 30 48 70 84 104 111 | .)
||~ Comma ||~ Monzo ||~ Value (Cents) ||~ Name 1 ||~ Name 2 ||~ Name 3 ||
||~ Comma ||~ Monzo ||~ Value (Cents) ||~ Name 1 ||~ Name 2 ||~ Name 3 ||
||= 256/243 ||&lt; | 8 -5 &gt; ||&gt; 90.22 ||= Limma ||= Pythagorean Minor 2nd ||=  ||
||= 256/243 ||&lt; | 8 -5 &gt; ||&gt; 90.22 ||= Limma ||= Pythagorean Minor 2nd ||=  ||
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||= 3025/3024 ||&lt; | -4 -3 2 -1 2 &gt; ||&gt; 0.57 ||= Lehmerisma ||=  ||=  ||
||= 3025/3024 ||&lt; | -4 -3 2 -1 2 &gt; ||&gt; 0.57 ||= Lehmerisma ||=  ||=  ||


==30-EDO Intervals:==  
==Intervals==  
|| **Step** || **Size in Cents** ||
|| **Step** || **Size in Cents** ||
|| 0 || 0 ||
|| 0 || 0 ||
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|| 27 || 1080 ||
|| 27 || 1080 ||
|| 28 || 1120 ||
|| 28 || 1120 ||
|| 29 || 1160 ||</pre></div>
|| 29 || 1160 ||
 
=Music=
 
[[@http://spectropolrecords.bandcamp.com/track/todd-harrop-fifteen-short-pieces|Fifteen Short Pieces]] by &lt;span class="wiki_link_ext"&gt;Todd Harrop&lt;/span&gt;</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;30edo&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;The &lt;em&gt;30 equal division&lt;/em&gt; divides the octave into 30 equal steps of precisely 40 cents each. Its &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/patent%20val"&gt;patent val&lt;/a&gt; is a doubled version of the patent val for &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/15edo"&gt;15edo&lt;/a&gt; through the 11-limit, so 30 can be viewed as a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/contorted"&gt;contorted&lt;/a&gt; version of 15. In the 13-limit it supplies the optimal patent val for &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Trienstonic%20clan#Quindecic"&gt;quindecic temperament&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;30edo&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;The &lt;em&gt;30 equal division&lt;/em&gt; divides the octave into 30 equal steps of precisely 40 cents each. Its &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/patent%20val"&gt;patent val&lt;/a&gt; is a doubled version of the patent val for &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/15edo"&gt;15edo&lt;/a&gt; through the 11-limit, so 30 can be viewed as a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/contorted"&gt;contorted&lt;/a&gt; version of 15. In the 13-limit it supplies the optimal patent val for &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Trienstonic%20clan#Quindecic"&gt;quindecic temperament&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, 5\30 is 200 cents, which is a good (and familiar) approximation for 9/8, and hence 30 can be viewed inconsistently, as having a 9' at 95\30 as well as a 9 at 96\30. Instead of the 18\30 fifth of 720 cents, 30 also makes available a 17\30 fifth of 680 cents. This is an ideal tuning for pelogic (5-limit mavila), which tempers out 135/128. When 30 is used for pelogic, 5\30 can again be used inconsistently as a 9/8.&lt;br /&gt;
However, 5\30 is 200 cents, which is a good (and familiar) approximation for 9/8, and hence 30 can be viewed inconsistently, as having a 9' at 95\30 as well as a 9 at 96\30. Instead of the 18\30 fifth of 720 cents, 30 also makes available a 17\30 fifth of 680 cents. This is an ideal tuning for pelogic (5-limit mavila), which tempers out 135/128. When 30 is used for pelogic, 5\30 can again be used inconsistently as a 9/8.&lt;br /&gt;
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Below is a plot of the Z function around 30:&lt;br /&gt;
Below is a plot of the Z function around 30:&lt;br /&gt;
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  30 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val &amp;lt; 30 48 70 84 104 111 |.)&lt;br /&gt;
  30 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val &amp;lt; 30 48 70 84 104 111 | .)&lt;br /&gt;




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&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://spectropolrecords.bandcamp.com/track/todd-harrop-fifteen-short-pieces" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"&gt;Fifteen Short Pieces&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;span class="wiki_link_ext"&gt;Todd Harrop&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>