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Its step, as well as the octave-inverted and octave-equivalent versions of it, holds the distinction for having around the highest [[harmonic entropy]] possible and thus is, in theory, most dissonant, assuming the relatively common values of a=2 and s=1%. This property is shared with all edos between around 24 and 30. Intervals smaller than this tend to be perceived as unison and are more consonant as a result; intervals larger than this have less "tension" and thus are also more consonant. | Its step, as well as the octave-inverted and octave-equivalent versions of it, holds the distinction for having around the highest [[harmonic entropy]] possible and thus is, in theory, most dissonant, assuming the relatively common values of a=2 and s=1%. This property is shared with all edos between around 24 and 30. Intervals smaller than this tend to be perceived as unison and are more consonant as a result; intervals larger than this have less "tension" and thus are also more consonant. | ||
The 27 note system | The 27 note system or one similar like a well temperament can be notated very easily, by a variation on the quartertone accidentals. In this case a sharp raises a note just a hair beneath the following nominal (for example C to C# describes the approximate 10/9 and 11/10 interval) and the flat conversely lowers: these are augmented unisons and diminished unisons. Just so, one finds that an accidental can be divided in half, and this fill the remaining places without need for double sharps and double flats. Enharmonically then, E double flat means C half sharp. In other words, the resemblance to quarter tone notation differs in enharmonic divergence. D flat, C half-sharp, D half flat, and C sharp are all different. The composer can decide for himself which tertiary accidental is necessary if he will need redundancy to keep the chromatic pitches within a compass on paper relative to the natural names (C, D, E etc.) otherwise is simple enough and the same tendency for A# to be higher than Bb is not only familiar, though here very exaggerated, to those working with pythagorean scale, but also to many classically trained violinists. et voila | ||
==Intervals== | ==Intervals== | ||
|| Degrees of 27-EDO || Cents value | || Degrees of 27-EDO || Cents value coarse/fine | ||
DMS value ||= Approximate | DMS value ||= Approximate | ||
Ratios* ||= Solfege || | Ratios* ||= Solfege || | ||
|| 0 || 0 ||= 1/1 ||= do || | || 0 || 0 ||= 1/1 ||= do || | ||
|| 1 || 44.44 | || 1 || 44.44, 53.33 | ||
13°20' ||= 36/35, 49/48, 50/49 ||= di || | 13°20' ||= 36/35, 49/48, 50/49 ||= di || | ||
|| 2 || 88.89 | || 2 || 88.89, 106.67 | ||
26°40' ||= 16/15, 21/20, 25/24 ||= ra || | 26°40' ||= 16/15, 21/20, 25/24 ||= ra || | ||
|| 3 || 133.33 | || 3 || 133.33, 160 | ||
40° ||= 14/13, 13/12 ||= ru || | 40° ||= 14/13, 13/12 ||= ru || | ||
|| 4 || 177.78 | || 4 || 177.78, 213.33 | ||
53°20' ||= 10/9 ||= reh || | 53°20' ||= 10/9 ||= reh || | ||
|| 5 || 222.22 | || 5 || 222.22, 266.67 | ||
66°40' ||= 8/7, 9/8 ||= re || | 66°40' ||= 8/7, 9/8 ||= re || | ||
|| 6 || 266.67 | || 6 || 266.67, 320 | ||
80° ||= 7/6 ||= ma || | 80° ||= 7/6 ||= ma || | ||
|| 7 || 311.11 | || 7 || 311.11, 373.33 | ||
93°20' ||= 6/5 ||= me || | 93°20' ||= 6/5 ||= me || | ||
|| 8 || 355.56 | || 8 || 355.56, 426.67 | ||
106°40' ||= 16/13 ||= mu || | 106°40' ||= 16/13 ||= mu || | ||
|| 9 || 400 | || 9 || 400, 480 | ||
120° ||= 5/4 ||= mi || | 120° ||= 5/4 ||= mi || | ||
|| 10 || 444.44 | || 10 || 444.44, 513.33 | ||
133°20' ||= 9/7, 13/10 ||= mo || | 133°20' ||= 9/7, 13/10 ||= mo || | ||
|| 11 || 488.89 | || 11 || 488.89, 566.67 | ||
146°40' ||= 4/3 ||= fa || | 146°40' ||= 4/3 ||= fa || | ||
|| 12 || 533.33 | || 12 || 533.33, 640 | ||
160° ||= 49/36, 48/35 ||= fih || | 160° ||= 49/36, 48/35 ||= fih || | ||
|| 13 || 577.78 | || 13 || 577.78, 693.33 | ||
173°20' ||= 7/5, 18/13 ||= fi || | 173°20' ||= 7/5, 18/13 ||= fi || | ||
|| 14 || 622.22 | || 14 || 622.22, 746.67 | ||
186°40' ||= 10/7, 13/9 ||= se || | 186°40' ||= 10/7, 13/9 ||= se || | ||
|| 15 || 666.67 | || 15 || 666.67, 800 | ||
200° ||= 72/49, 35/24 ||= sih || | 200° ||= 72/49, 35/24 ||= sih || | ||
|| 16 || 711.11 | || 16 || 711.11, 853.33 | ||
213°20' ||= 3/2 ||= so/sol || | 213°20' ||= 3/2 ||= so/sol || | ||
|| 17 || 755.56 | || 17 || 755.56, 906.67 | ||
226°40' ||= 14/9, 20/13 ||= lo || | 226°40' ||= 14/9, 20/13 ||= lo || | ||
|| 18 || 800 | || 18 || 800, 960 | ||
240° ||= 8/5 ||= le || | 240° ||= 8/5 ||= le || | ||
|| 19 || 844.44 | || 19 || 844.44, 1013.33 | ||
253°20' ||= 13/8 ||= lu || | 253°20' ||= 13/8 ||= lu || | ||
|| 20 || 888.89 | || 20 || 888.89, 1066.67 | ||
266°40' ||= 5/3 ||= la || | 266°40' ||= 5/3 ||= la || | ||
|| 21 || 933.33 | || 21 || 933.33, 1120 | ||
280° ||= 12/7 ||= li || | 280° ||= 12/7 ||= li || | ||
|| 22 || 977.78 | || 22 || 977.78, 1173.33 | ||
293°20' ||= 7/4, 16/9 ||= ta || | 293°20' ||= 7/4, 16/9 ||= ta || | ||
|| 23 || 1022.22 | || 23 || 1022.22, 1226.67 | ||
306°40' ||= 9/5 ||= te || | 306°40' ||= 9/5 ||= te || | ||
|| 24 || 1066,67 | || 24 || 1066,67, 1280 | ||
320° ||= 13/7, 24/13 ||= tu || | 320° ||= 13/7, 24/13 ||= tu || | ||
|| 25 || 1111.11 | || 25 || 1111.11, 1333.33 | ||
333°20' ||= 40/21 ||= ti || | 333°20' ||= 40/21 ||= ti || | ||
|| 26 || 1155.56 | || 26 || 1155.56, 1386.67 | ||
346°40' ||= 35/18, 96/49, 49/25 ||= da || | 346°40' ||= 35/18, 96/49, 49/25 ||= da || | ||
|| 27 || 1200 | || 27 || 1200, 1440 | ||
360° ||= 2/1 ||= do || | 360° ||= 2/1 ||= do || | ||
*based on treating 27-EDO as a 2.3.5.7.13 subgroup temperament; other approaches are possible. | *based on treating 27-EDO as a 2.3.5.7.13 subgroup temperament; other approaches are possible. | ||
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/ Niner || | / Niner || | ||
==Commas== | ==Commas== | ||
27 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val < 27 43 63 76 93 100 |.) | 27 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val < [[tel:27 43 63 76 93 100|27 43 63 76 93 100]] |.) | ||
||~ Comma ||~ Monzo ||~ Value (Cents) ||~ Name 1 ||~ Name 2 ||~ Name 3 || | ||~ Comma ||~ Monzo ||~ Value (Cents) ||~ Name 1 ||~ Name 2 ||~ Name 3 || | ||
||= 128/125 ||< | 7 0 -3 > ||> 41.06 ||= Diesis ||= Augmented Comma ||= || | ||= 128/125 ||< | 7 0 -3 > ||> 41.06 ||= Diesis ||= Augmented Comma ||= || | ||
||= 20000/19683 ||< | 5 -9 4 > ||> 27.66 ||= Minimal Diesis ||= Tetracot Comma ||= || | ||= 20000/19683 ||< | 5 -9 4 > ||> 27.66 ||= Minimal Diesis ||= Tetracot Comma ||= || | ||
||= 78732/78125 ||< | 2 9 -7 > ||> 13.40 ||= Medium Semicomma ||= Sensipent Comma ||= || | ||= 78732/78125 ||< | 2 9 -7 > ||> 13.40 ||= Medium Semicomma ||= Sensipent Comma ||= || | ||
||= 4711802/4709457 ||< | 1 -27 18 > ||> 0.86 ||= Ennealimma ||= ||= || | ||= [[tel:4711802/4709457|4711802/4709457]] ||< | 1 -27 18 > ||> 0.86 ||= Ennealimma ||= ||= || | ||
||= 686/675 ||< | 1 -3 -2 3 > ||> 27.99 ||= Senga ||= ||= || | ||= 686/675 ||< | 1 -3 -2 3 > ||> 27.99 ||= Senga ||= ||= || | ||
||= 64/63 ||< | 6 -2 0 -1 > ||> 27.26 ||= Septimal Comma ||= Archytas' Comma ||= Leipziger Komma || | ||= 64/63 ||< | 6 -2 0 -1 > ||> 27.26 ||= Septimal Comma ||= Archytas' Comma ||= Leipziger Komma || | ||
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||= 4000/3969 ||< | 5 -4 3 -2 > ||> 13.47 ||= Octagar ||= ||= || | ||= 4000/3969 ||< | 5 -4 3 -2 > ||> 13.47 ||= Octagar ||= ||= || | ||
||= 1728/1715 ||< | 6 3 -1 -3 > ||> 13.07 ||= Orwellisma ||= Orwell Comma ||= || | ||= 1728/1715 ||< | 6 3 -1 -3 > ||> 13.07 ||= Orwellisma ||= Orwell Comma ||= || | ||
||= 420175/419904 ||< | -6 -8 2 5 > ||> 1.12 ||= Wizma ||= ||= || | ||= [[tel:420175/419904|420175/419904]] ||< | -6 -8 2 5 > ||> 1.12 ||= Wizma ||= ||= || | ||
||= 2401/2400 ||< | -5 -1 -2 4 > ||> 0.72 ||= Breedsma ||= ||= || | ||= 2401/2400 ||< | -5 -1 -2 4 > ||> 0.72 ||= Breedsma ||= ||= || | ||
||= 4375/4374 ||< | -1 -7 4 1 > ||> 0.40 ||= Ragisma ||= ||= || | ||= 4375/4374 ||< | -1 -7 4 1 > ||> 0.40 ||= Ragisma ||= ||= || | ||
||= 250047/250000 ||< | -4 6 -6 3 > ||> 0.33 ||= Landscape Comma ||= ||= || | ||= [[tel:250047/250000|250047/250000]] ||< | -4 6 -6 3 > ||> 0.33 ||= Landscape Comma ||= ||= || | ||
||= 99/98 ||< | -1 2 0 -2 1 > ||> 17.58 ||= Mothwellsma ||= ||= || | ||= 99/98 ||< | -1 2 0 -2 1 > ||> 17.58 ||= Mothwellsma ||= ||= || | ||
||= 896/891 ||< | 7 -4 0 1 -1 > ||> 9.69 ||= Pentacircle ||= ||= || | ||= 896/891 ||< | 7 -4 0 1 -1 > ||> 9.69 ||= Pentacircle ||= ||= || | ||
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Its step, as well as the octave-inverted and octave-equivalent versions of it, holds the distinction for having around the highest <a class="wiki_link" href="/harmonic%20entropy">harmonic entropy</a> possible and thus is, in theory, most dissonant, assuming the relatively common values of a=2 and s=1%. This property is shared with all edos between around 24 and 30. Intervals smaller than this tend to be perceived as unison and are more consonant as a result; intervals larger than this have less &quot;tension&quot; and thus are also more consonant.<br /> | Its step, as well as the octave-inverted and octave-equivalent versions of it, holds the distinction for having around the highest <a class="wiki_link" href="/harmonic%20entropy">harmonic entropy</a> possible and thus is, in theory, most dissonant, assuming the relatively common values of a=2 and s=1%. This property is shared with all edos between around 24 and 30. Intervals smaller than this tend to be perceived as unison and are more consonant as a result; intervals larger than this have less &quot;tension&quot; and thus are also more consonant.<br /> | ||
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The 27 note system | The 27 note system or one similar like a well temperament can be notated very easily, by a variation on the quartertone accidentals. In this case a sharp raises a note just a hair beneath the following nominal (for example C to C# describes the approximate 10/9 and 11/10 interval) and the flat conversely lowers: these are augmented unisons and diminished unisons. Just so, one finds that an accidental can be divided in half, and this fill the remaining places without need for double sharps and double flats. Enharmonically then, E double flat means C half sharp. In other words, the resemblance to quarter tone notation differs in enharmonic divergence. D flat, C half-sharp, D half flat, and C sharp are all different. The composer can decide for himself which tertiary accidental is necessary if he will need redundancy to keep the chromatic pitches within a compass on paper relative to the natural names (C, D, E etc.) otherwise is simple enough and the same tendency for A# to be higher than Bb is not only familiar, though here very exaggerated, to those working with pythagorean scale, but also to many classically trained violinists. et voila<br /> | ||
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</td> | </td> | ||
<td>Cents value<br /> | <td>Cents value coarse/fine<br /> | ||
DMS value<br /> | DMS value<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>1<br /> | <td>1<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>44.44<br /> | <td>44.44, 53.33<br /> | ||
13°20'<br /> | 13°20'<br /> | ||
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<td>2<br /> | <td>2<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>88.89<br /> | <td>88.89, 106.67<br /> | ||
26°40'<br /> | 26°40'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>3<br /> | <td>3<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>133.33<br /> | <td>133.33, 160<br /> | ||
40°<br /> | 40°<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>4<br /> | <td>4<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>177.78<br /> | <td>177.78, 213.33<br /> | ||
53°20'<br /> | 53°20'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>5<br /> | <td>5<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>222.22<br /> | <td>222.22, 266.67<br /> | ||
66°40'<br /> | 66°40'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>6<br /> | <td>6<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>266.67<br /> | <td>266.67, 320<br /> | ||
80°<br /> | 80°<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>7<br /> | <td>7<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>311.11<br /> | <td>311.11, 373.33<br /> | ||
93°20'<br /> | 93°20'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>8<br /> | <td>8<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>355.56<br /> | <td>355.56, 426.67<br /> | ||
106°40'<br /> | 106°40'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>9<br /> | <td>9<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>400<br /> | <td>400, 480<br /> | ||
120°<br /> | 120°<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>10<br /> | <td>10<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>444.44<br /> | <td>444.44, 513.33<br /> | ||
133°20'<br /> | 133°20'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>11<br /> | <td>11<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>488.89<br /> | <td>488.89, 566.67<br /> | ||
146°40'<br /> | 146°40'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>12<br /> | <td>12<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>533.33<br /> | <td>533.33, 640<br /> | ||
160°<br /> | 160°<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>13<br /> | <td>13<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>577.78<br /> | <td>577.78, 693.33<br /> | ||
173°20'<br /> | 173°20'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>14<br /> | <td>14<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>622.22<br /> | <td>622.22, 746.67<br /> | ||
186°40'<br /> | 186°40'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>15<br /> | <td>15<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>666.67<br /> | <td>666.67, 800<br /> | ||
200°<br /> | 200°<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>16<br /> | <td>16<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>711.11<br /> | <td>711.11, 853.33<br /> | ||
213°20'<br /> | 213°20'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>17<br /> | <td>17<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>755.56<br /> | <td>755.56, 906.67<br /> | ||
226°40'<br /> | 226°40'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>18<br /> | <td>18<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>800<br /> | <td>800, 960<br /> | ||
240°<br /> | 240°<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>19<br /> | <td>19<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>844.44<br /> | <td>844.44, 1013.33<br /> | ||
253°20'<br /> | 253°20'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>20<br /> | <td>20<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>888.89<br /> | <td>888.89, 1066.67<br /> | ||
266°40'<br /> | 266°40'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>21<br /> | <td>21<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>933.33<br /> | <td>933.33, 1120<br /> | ||
280°<br /> | 280°<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>22<br /> | <td>22<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>977.78<br /> | <td>977.78, 1173.33<br /> | ||
293°20'<br /> | 293°20'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>23<br /> | <td>23<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>1022.22<br /> | <td>1022.22, 1226.67<br /> | ||
306°40'<br /> | 306°40'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>24<br /> | <td>24<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>1066,67<br /> | <td>1066,67, 1280<br /> | ||
320°<br /> | 320°<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>25<br /> | <td>25<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>1111.11<br /> | <td>1111.11, 1333.33<br /> | ||
333°20'<br /> | 333°20'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>26<br /> | <td>26<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>1155.56<br /> | <td>1155.56, 1386.67<br /> | ||
346°40'<br /> | 346°40'<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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<td>27<br /> | <td>27<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>1200<br /> | <td>1200, 1440<br /> | ||
360°<br /> | 360°<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
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27 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val &lt; 27 43 63 76 93 100 |.)<br /> | 27 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val &lt; <a class="wiki_link" href="http://tel.wikispaces.com/27%2043%2063%2076%2093%20100">27 43 63 76 93 100</a> |.)<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">4711802/4709457<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">[[tel:4711802/4709457|4711802/4709457]]<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: left;">| 1 -27 18 &gt;<br /> | <td style="text-align: left;">| 1 -27 18 &gt;<br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">420175/419904<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">[[tel:420175/419904|420175/419904]]<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: left;">| -6 -8 2 5 &gt;<br /> | <td style="text-align: left;">| -6 -8 2 5 &gt;<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
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<td style="text-align: center;">250047/250000<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">[[tel:250047/250000|250047/250000]]<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: left;">| -4 6 -6 3 &gt;<br /> | <td style="text-align: left;">| -4 6 -6 3 &gt;<br /> |