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::: For the mode name, I wasn't aware double v at word initial is possible in English, but if there's a source (it really isn't a W, right?), then I'm fine with it. Btw I still have a problem with one of the 5L 4s mode names, "Tjatupian". The tj cluster is wild, and if j is pronounced as /j/, I hope to get it respelled as "Tiatupian". [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:25, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

:::: Kleistonic sounds nice, sure. It also avoids the "sm" bit with rather unfortunate implication of derivatives of Greek κλείσμα (kleisma) ['kliz.ma] meaning enema in some languages. I'll make the change.

:::: As far as 4L11s is concerned, I guess mytonic might work to avoid minortonic confusion, but I'm not doing modes, intervals, and notation for 15 note r-2 scales.

:::: I haven't seen any notice on diamond notation being in anyway standard for these. It seems Inthar is using it in articles he wrote. In any case, the relevant bit is the abstraction of the chroma and the staff notation itself, but with a lack of glyph support for notation software and specific Unicode symbols, I don't see it being a practical standard anytime soon. Personally, I think that #/b works fine for any abstracted chroma in smaller edos, and sagittal is useful for bigger ones. The choice of letters depends more on the number of naturals. I'd go A-G for heptatonic (std), J-Q for octatonic (oneiro), Arab numerals for nonatonic (Armodue), Greek numerals for decatonic, and this Cyrillic 10+1 numeral system for hendecatonic.

:::: A lot of these names don't have to conform to English phonology, same as any foreign name import. They're just hammered into one pronunciation of another. This "vv" is a literal [v], the "tj" mentioned could be either [tj] (ty) or [tʃ] (ch), and it doesn't matter. I pronounce smitonic with an [i]/[ɪ] instead of an [aj], and it's all the same. [[User:Ayceman|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman|talk]]) 20:36, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

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 ::: For the mode name, I wasn't aware double v at word initial is possible in English, but if there's a source (it really isn't a W, right?), then I'm fine with it. Btw I still have a problem with one of the 5L 4s mode names, "Tjatupian". The tj  cluster is wild, and if j is pronounced as /j/, I hope to get it respelled as "Tiatupian". [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:25, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
+:::: Kleistonic sounds nice, sure. It also avoids the "sm" bit with rather unfortunate implication of derivatives of Greek κλείσμα (kleisma) ['kliz.ma] meaning enema in some languages. I'll make the change.
+:::: As far as 4L11s is concerned, I guess mytonic might work to avoid minortonic confusion, but I'm not doing modes, intervals, and notation for 15 note r-2 scales.
+:::: I haven't seen any notice on diamond notation being in anyway standard for these. It seems Inthar is using it in articles he wrote. In any case, the relevant bit is the abstraction of the chroma and the staff notation itself, but with a lack of glyph support for notation software and specific Unicode symbols, I don't see it being a practical standard anytime soon. Personally, I think that #/b works fine for any abstracted chroma in smaller edos, and sagittal is useful for bigger ones. The choice of letters depends more on the number of naturals. I'd go A-G for heptatonic (std), J-Q for octatonic (oneiro), Arab numerals for nonatonic (Armodue), Greek numerals for decatonic, and this Cyrillic 10+1 numeral system for hendecatonic.
+:::: A lot of these names don't have to conform to English phonology, same as any foreign name import. They're just hammered into one pronunciation of another. This "vv" is a literal [v], the "tj" mentioned could be either [tj] (ty) or [tʃ] (ch), and it doesn't matter. I pronounce smitonic with an [i]/[ɪ] instead of an [aj], and it's all the same. [[User:Ayceman|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman|talk]]) 20:36, 9 April 2021 (UTC)