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17 tone equal temperament, or 17-EDO, divides the octave in 17 equal steps, each 70.588 [[cent]]s in size. It is the seventh [[prime numbers|prime]] [[EDO]], following [[13edo]] and coming before [[19edo]]. | 17 tone equal temperament, or 17-EDO, divides the octave in 17 equal steps, each 70.588 [[cent]]s in size. It is the seventh [[prime numbers|prime]] [[EDO]], following [[13edo]] and coming before [[19edo]]. | ||
== Introductory materials == | |||
* [[SeventeenTheory]], an introduction to 17-EDO theory, through the eyes of the [[SeventeenTonePianoProject]]. | |||
* [http://anaphoria.com/Secor17puzzle.pdf The 17-tone Puzzle] by George Secor, another introduction into 17-EDO theory. | |||
* [[17edo Solfege]] | |||
[[17edo Solfege]] | * [[17edo tetrachords]] | ||
* [http://microtonalismo.com/proyecto-xvii Proyect 17-Perú] {{forbidden}} | |||
== Theory == | |||
17-EDO can plausibly be treated as a 2.3.25.7.11.13.23 subgroup temperament, for which it is quite accurate (though the 7-limit ratios are generally not as well-represented as those of the other integers). Because the 3, 7, 11, and 13 are all sharp, it adapts well to octave shrinking; [[27edt]] (a variant of 17edo in which the octaves are flattened by ~2.5 cents) is a good alternative. Another one is [[44ed6]]. | 17-EDO can plausibly be treated as a 2.3.25.7.11.13.23 subgroup temperament, for which it is quite accurate (though the 7-limit ratios are generally not as well-represented as those of the other integers). Because the 3, 7, 11, and 13 are all sharp, it adapts well to octave shrinking; [[27edt]] (a variant of 17edo in which the octaves are flattened by ~2.5 cents) is a good alternative. Another one is [[44ed6]]. | ||
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! Cents | ! Cents | ||
! Names of Intervals | ! Names of Intervals | ||
! colspan="3" | [[Ups and Downs Notation | ! colspan="3" | [[Ups and Downs Notation]] | ||
! Approximate Ratios* | ! Approximate Ratios* | ||
! Temperament(s)generated | ! Temperament(s) generated | ||
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| 0 | | 0 | ||
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<nowiki>*</nowiki>Ratios based on treating 17edo as a 2.3.7.11.13.23.25 subgroup | <nowiki>*</nowiki> Ratios based on treating 17edo as a 2.3.7.11.13.23.25 subgroup | ||
Combining ups and downs notation with [[color notation]], qualities can be loosely associated with colors: | Combining ups and downs notation with [[color notation]], qualities can be loosely associated with colors: | ||
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| +7.0 | | +7.0 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! [[Relative error|relative]] (%) | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
| +5.6 | | +5.6 | ||
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| +6 | | +6 | ||
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The following table shows how [[ | ==== 15-odd-limit mappings ==== | ||
The following table shows how [[15-odd-limit intervals]] are represented in 17edo (ordered by absolute error). Prime harmonics are in '''bold'''; inconsistent intervals are in ''italic''. | |||
{| class="wikitable sortable center-1 right-2" | {| class="wikitable sortable center-1 right-2" | ||
|+Direct mapping (even if inconsistent) | |||
|- | |- | ||
! class="unsortable" | Interval, | ! class="unsortable" | Interval, complement | ||
! | ! Error (abs, [[Cent|¢]]) | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[18/13]], [[13/9]] | | [[18/13]], [[13/9]] | ||
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| 2.604 | | 2.604 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[4/3]], [[3/2]] | | '''[[4/3]], [[3/2]]''' | ||
| 3.927 | | '''3.927''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[11/9]], [[18/11]] | | [[11/9]], [[18/11]] | ||
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| 6.021 | | 6.021 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[16/13]], [[13/8]] | | '''[[16/13]], [[13/8]]''' | ||
| 6.531 | | '''6.531''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[13/11]], [[22/13]] | | [[13/11]], [[22/13]] | ||
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| 12.878 | | 12.878 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[11/8]], [[16/11]] | | '''[[11/8]], [[16/11]]''' | ||
| 13.388 | | '''13.388''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[7/6]], [[12/7]] | | [[7/6]], [[12/7]] | ||
| 15.482 | | 15.482 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[7/5]], [[10/7]] | | ''[[7/5]], [[10/7]]'' | ||
| 17.806 | | ''17.806'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[8/7]], [[7/4]] | | '''[[8/7]], [[7/4]]''' | ||
| 19.409 | | '''19.409''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[15/14]], [[28/15]] | | ''[[15/14]], [[28/15]]'' | ||
| 21.734 | | ''21.734'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[11/10]], [[20/11]] | | ''[[11/10]], [[20/11]]'' | ||
| 23.828 | | ''23.828'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[15/11]], [[22/15]] | | ''[[15/11]], [[22/15]]'' | ||
| 27.755 | | ''27.755'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[10/9]], [[9/5]] | | ''[[10/9]], [[9/5]]'' | ||
| 29.361 | | ''29.361'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[16/15]], [[15/8]] | | [[16/15]], [[15/8]] | ||
| 29.445 | | 29.445 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[13/10]], [[20/13]] | | ''[[13/10]], [[20/13]]'' | ||
| 30.685 | | ''30.685'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[6/5]], [[5/3]] | | ''[[6/5]], [[5/3]]'' | ||
| 33.288 | | ''33.288'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[5/4]], [[8/5]] | | '''[[5/4]], [[8/5]]''' | ||
| 33.373 | | '''33.373''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[15/13]], [[26/15]] | | ''[[15/13]], [[26/15]]'' | ||
| 34.612 | | ''34.612'' | ||
|} | |} | ||
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | {| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | ||
|+Patent val mapping | |||
|- | |- | ||
! Interval, | ! Interval, complement | ||
! | ! Error (abs, [[Cent|¢]]) | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[18/13]], [[13/9]] | | [[18/13]], [[13/9]] | ||
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| '''33.373''' | | '''33.373''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[15/13]], [[26/15]] | | ''[[15/13]], [[26/15]]'' | ||
| 35.976 | | ''35.976'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[6/5]], [[5/3]] | | ''[[6/5]], [[5/3]]'' | ||
| 37.300 | | ''37.300'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[13/10]], [[20/13]] | | ''[[13/10]], [[20/13]]'' | ||
| 39.904 | | ''39.904'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[10/9]], [[9/5]] | | ''[[10/9]], [[9/5]]'' | ||
| 41.227 | | ''41.227'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[15/11]], [[22/15]] | | ''[[15/11]], [[22/15]]'' | ||
| 42.833 | | ''42.833'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[11/10]], [[20/11]] | | ''[[11/10]], [[20/11]]'' | ||
| 46.760 | | ''46.760'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[15/14]], [[28/15]] | | ''[[15/14]], [[28/15]]'' | ||
| 48.855 | | ''48.855'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[7/5]], [[10/7]] | | ''[[7/5]], [[10/7]]'' | ||
| 52.782 | | ''52.782'' | ||
|} | |} | ||
==== Selected 13-limit intervals ==== | |||
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== Commas == | == Commas == | ||