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I think that there are a few sources of potential confusion.  First, although this is a great formal definition for "a microtone," I don't feel that it accurately represents the most common usage of the term.  Perhaps there needs to be some disambiguation.  Second, there might be a couple of potentially subjective statements in the article.  I don't feel that subjective statements should be avoided at all costs, but, perhaps there is a better way to word the article to avoid them where unnecessary.  Third, what is "the microtone challenge?"  Is it a challenge to produce a piece of music that utilizes more than one tone that are exactly one microtone apart, or is there more to it?  --[[User:Bozu|Bozu]] ([[User talk:Bozu|talk]]) 15:51, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
I think that there are a few sources of potential confusion.  First, although this is a great formal definition for "a microtone," I don't feel that it accurately represents the most common usage of the term.  Perhaps there needs to be some disambiguation.  Second, there might be a couple of potentially subjective statements in the article.  I don't feel that subjective statements should be avoided at all costs, but, perhaps there is a better way to word the article to avoid them where unnecessary.  Third, what is "the microtone challenge?"  Is it a challenge to produce a piece of music that utilizes more than one tone that are exactly one microtone apart, or is there more to it?  --[[User:Bozu|Bozu]] ([[User talk:Bozu|talk]]) 15:51, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
: First of all: [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Microtone&action=history thanks] for the thanks 🙂
: You are right this article may be confusing. This may date back to its start: the article began as a pun on the literal meaning (etymology) of the term. Now I have the impression that it should serve three different purposes:
:# a definition in the sense of xenharmonic/microtonal practice. The definition would be '''good for our visitors.'''
:# the exploration of the literal meaning and the limits of precision (i.e. How many digits of accuracy should a cent value have?). The precision limits would be '''good four our interval tables.'''
:# can an interval with the size of one classical microtone (after the greeks, 203µ¢) even be relevant to human perception? To prove this right is the "Microtone Challenge" and '''good for our sportsmen.''' 😉
: I'd be glad for any help in improving this article.  --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 19:24, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

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Ambiguity

Thanks to whomever added this article.

I think that there are a few sources of potential confusion. First, although this is a great formal definition for "a microtone," I don't feel that it accurately represents the most common usage of the term. Perhaps there needs to be some disambiguation. Second, there might be a couple of potentially subjective statements in the article. I don't feel that subjective statements should be avoided at all costs, but, perhaps there is a better way to word the article to avoid them where unnecessary. Third, what is "the microtone challenge?" Is it a challenge to produce a piece of music that utilizes more than one tone that are exactly one microtone apart, or is there more to it? --Bozu (talk) 15:51, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

First of all: thanks for the thanks 🙂
You are right this article may be confusing. This may date back to its start: the article began as a pun on the literal meaning (etymology) of the term. Now I have the impression that it should serve three different purposes:
  1. a definition in the sense of xenharmonic/microtonal practice. The definition would be good for our visitors.
  2. the exploration of the literal meaning and the limits of precision (i.e. How many digits of accuracy should a cent value have?). The precision limits would be good four our interval tables.
  3. can an interval with the size of one classical microtone (after the greeks, 203µ¢) even be relevant to human perception? To prove this right is the "Microtone Challenge" and good for our sportsmen. 😉
I'd be glad for any help in improving this article. --Xenwolf (talk) 19:24, 17 June 2020 (UTC)