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=Theory=
 
== Theory ==
 
The 41-tET, 41-EDO, 41-ET, or '''41-Tone Equal Temperament''' is the scale derived by dividing the octave into 41 equally-sized steps. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 29.268 [[cent|cent]]s, an [[interval|interval]] close in size to [[64/63|64/63]], the [[Septimal_comma|septimal comma]]. 41-ET can be seen as a tuning of the ''[[Schismatic_family#Garibaldi|Garibaldi temperament]]'' [[#cite_note-1|[1]]] , [[#cite_note-2|[2]]] , [[#cite_note-3|[3]]] the ''[[Magic_family|Magic temperament]]'' [[#cite_note-4|[4]]] and the superkleismic (41&26) temperament. It is the second smallest equal temperament (after [[29edo|29edo]]) whose perfect fifth is closer to just intonation than that of [[12edo|12-ET]], and is the seventh [[The_Riemann_Zeta_Function_and_Tuning#Zeta EDO lists|zeta integral edo]] after 31; it is not, however, a [[The_Riemann_Zeta_Function_and_Tuning#Zeta EDO lists|zeta gap edo]]. This has to do with the fact that it can deal with the [[11-limit|11-limit]] fairly well, and the [[13-limit|13-limit]] perhaps close enough for government work, though its [[13/10|13/10]] is 14 cents sharp. Various 13-limit [[Magic_extensions|magic extensions]] are supported by 41: 13-limit magic, and less successfully necromancy and witchcraft, all merge into one in 41edo tuning. The 41f val provides a superb tuning for sorcery, giving a less-complex version of the 13-limit, and the 41ef val likewise works well for telepathy; telepathy and sorcery merging into one however not in 41edo but in 22edo.
The 41-tET, 41-EDO, 41-ET, or '''41-Tone Equal Temperament''' is the scale derived by dividing the octave into 41 equally-sized steps. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 29.268 [[cent|cent]]s, an [[interval|interval]] close in size to [[64/63|64/63]], the [[Septimal_comma|septimal comma]]. 41-ET can be seen as a tuning of the ''[[Schismatic_family#Garibaldi|Garibaldi temperament]]'' [[#cite_note-1|[1]]] , [[#cite_note-2|[2]]] , [[#cite_note-3|[3]]] the ''[[Magic_family|Magic temperament]]'' [[#cite_note-4|[4]]] and the superkleismic (41&26) temperament. It is the second smallest equal temperament (after [[29edo|29edo]]) whose perfect fifth is closer to just intonation than that of [[12edo|12-ET]], and is the seventh [[The_Riemann_Zeta_Function_and_Tuning#Zeta EDO lists|zeta integral edo]] after 31; it is not, however, a [[The_Riemann_Zeta_Function_and_Tuning#Zeta EDO lists|zeta gap edo]]. This has to do with the fact that it can deal with the [[11-limit|11-limit]] fairly well, and the [[13-limit|13-limit]] perhaps close enough for government work, though its [[13/10|13/10]] is 14 cents sharp. Various 13-limit [[Magic_extensions|magic extensions]] are supported by 41: 13-limit magic, and less successfully necromancy and witchcraft, all merge into one in 41edo tuning. The 41f val provides a superb tuning for sorcery, giving a less-complex version of the 13-limit, and the 41ef val likewise works well for telepathy; telepathy and sorcery merging into one however not in 41edo but in 22edo.


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41edo is the 13th [[prime_numbers|prime]] edo, following [[37edo|37edo]] and coming before [[43edo|43edo]].
41edo is the 13th [[prime_numbers|prime]] edo, following [[37edo|37edo]] and coming before [[43edo|43edo]].


=Intervals=
== Intervals ==
 
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== Chord Names ==
=== Chord Names ===
 
All 41edo chords can be named using ups and downs. An up, down or mid immediately after the chord root affects the 3rd, 6th, 7th, and/or the 11th (every other note of a stacked-3rds chord 6-1-3-5-7-9-11-13). Alterations are always enclosed in parentheses, additions never are. Here are the zo, gu, ilo, yo and ru triads:
All 41edo chords can be named using ups and downs. An up, down or mid immediately after the chord root affects the 3rd, 6th, 7th, and/or the 11th (every other note of a stacked-3rds chord 6-1-3-5-7-9-11-13). Alterations are always enclosed in parentheses, additions never are. Here are the zo, gu, ilo, yo and ru triads:


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For a more complete list, see [[Ups and Downs Notation#Chords and Chord Progressions|Ups and Downs Notation - Chords and Chord Progressions]].  
For a more complete list, see [[Ups and Downs Notation#Chords and Chord Progressions|Ups and Downs Notation - Chords and Chord Progressions]].  


== Notation ==
=== Notation ===


===Red-Blue Notation===
==== Red-Blue Notation ====


A red-note/blue-note system, similar to the one proposed for [[36edo|36edo]], is one option for notating 41edo. (This is separate from and not compatible with Kite's [[Kite's_color_notation|color notation]].) We have the "white key" albitonic notes A-G (7 in total), the "black key" sharps and flats (10 in total), a "red" and "blue" version of each albitonic note (14 in total), a "red" (dark red?) version of each sharp and a "blue" (dark blue?) version of each flat (10 in total), adding up to 41. This would result in quite a colorful keyboard! Note that there are no red flats or blue sharps. Using this nomenclature the notes are:
A red-note/blue-note system, similar to the one proposed for [[36edo|36edo]], is one option for notating 41edo. (This is separate from and not compatible with Kite's [[Kite's_color_notation|color notation]].) We have the "white key" albitonic notes A-G (7 in total), the "black key" sharps and flats (10 in total), a "red" and "blue" version of each albitonic note (14 in total), a "red" (dark red?) version of each sharp and a "blue" (dark blue?) version of each flat (10 in total), adding up to 41. This would result in quite a colorful keyboard! Note that there are no red flats or blue sharps. Using this nomenclature the notes are:
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If "red" is replaced by "up", "blue" by "down", and "neutral" by "mid", and if "gray" is omitted, this notation becomes essentially the same as [[Ups_and_Downs_Notation|ups and downs notation]]. The only difference is the use of minor tritone and major tritone.
If "red" is replaced by "up", "blue" by "down", and "neutral" by "mid", and if "gray" is omitted, this notation becomes essentially the same as [[Ups_and_Downs_Notation|ups and downs notation]]. The only difference is the use of minor tritone and major tritone.


==Selected just intervals by error==
=== Selected just intervals by error ===
 
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=Relationship to 12-edo=
== Relationship to 12-edo ==
 
Whereas 12-edo has a circle of twelve 5ths, 41-edo has a spiral of twelve 5ths (since 24\41 is on the 7\12 kite in the scale tree). This spiral of 5th shows 41-edo in a 12-edo-friendly format. Excellent for introducing 41-edo to musicians unfamiliar with microtonal music. There are 12 "-ish" categories, where "-ish" means ±1 edostep. The 6 mid intervals are uncategorized, since they are all so far from 12edo. The two innermost and two outermost intervals on the spiral are duplicates.
Whereas 12-edo has a circle of twelve 5ths, 41-edo has a spiral of twelve 5ths (since 24\41 is on the 7\12 kite in the scale tree). This spiral of 5th shows 41-edo in a 12-edo-friendly format. Excellent for introducing 41-edo to musicians unfamiliar with microtonal music. There are 12 "-ish" categories, where "-ish" means ±1 edostep. The 6 mid intervals are uncategorized, since they are all so far from 12edo. The two innermost and two outermost intervals on the spiral are duplicates.


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[[File:41-edo spiral with notes.png|730x730px]]
[[File:41-edo spiral with notes.png|730x730px]]


=Commas=
== Commas ==
 
41 EDO tempers out the following commas using its patent val, < 41 65 95 115 142 152 168 174 185 199 203 |.
41 EDO tempers out the following commas using its patent val, < 41 65 95 115 142 152 168 174 185 199 203 |.


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=Temperaments=
== Temperaments ==
 
[[List_of_edo-distinct_41et_rank_two_temperaments|List of edo-distinct 41et rank two temperaments]]
[[List_of_edo-distinct_41et_rank_two_temperaments|List of edo-distinct 41et rank two temperaments]]


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=Scales and modes=
== Scales and modes ==
 
A list of [[41edo_modes|41edo modes]] (MOS and others).
A list of [[41edo_modes|41edo modes]] (MOS and others).


===Harmonic Scale===
==== Harmonic Scale ====
 
41edo is the first edo to do some justice to Mode 8 of the [[OverToneSeries|harmonic series]], which Dante Rosati calls the "[[overtone_scales|Diatonic Harmonic Series Scale]]," consisting of overtones 8 through 16 (sometimes made to repeat at the octave).
41edo is the first edo to do some justice to Mode 8 of the [[OverToneSeries|harmonic series]], which Dante Rosati calls the "[[overtone_scales|Diatonic Harmonic Series Scale]]," consisting of overtones 8 through 16 (sometimes made to repeat at the octave).


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The scale in 41, as adjacent steps, thus goes: 7 6 6 5 5 4 4 4.
The scale in 41, as adjacent steps, thus goes: 7 6 6 5 5 4 4 4.


=Nonoctave Temperaments=
== Nonoctave Temperaments ==
 
Taking every third degree of 41edo produces a scale extremely close to [[88cET|88cET]] or 88-cent equal temperament (or the 8th root of 3:2). Likewise, taking every fifth degree produces a scale very close to the equal-tempered <span style="">[[BP|Bohlen-Pierce]]</span>[[BP| Scale]] (or the 13th root of 3). See chart:
Taking every third degree of 41edo produces a scale extremely close to [[88cET|88cET]] or 88-cent equal temperament (or the 8th root of 3:2). Likewise, taking every fifth degree produces a scale very close to the equal-tempered <span style="">[[BP|Bohlen-Pierce]]</span>[[BP| Scale]] (or the 13th root of 3). See chart:


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==Instruments==
=== Instruments ===
 
[[File:41-EDD_elektrische_gitaar.jpg|alt=41-EDD elektrische gitaar.jpg|560x745px|41-EDD elektrische gitaar.jpg]]
[[File:41-EDD_elektrische_gitaar.jpg|alt=41-EDD elektrische gitaar.jpg|560x745px|41-EDD elektrische gitaar.jpg]]


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A possible system to tune keyboards in 41EDO is discussed in http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/74155.
A possible system to tune keyboards in 41EDO is discussed in http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/74155.


=Music=
== Music ==
 
[http://soundcloud.com/cameron-bobro/eveninghorizon-cbobro EveningHorizon] [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Bobro/EveningHorizon_CBobro.mp3 play] by Cameron Bobro
[http://soundcloud.com/cameron-bobro/eveninghorizon-cbobro EveningHorizon] [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Bobro/EveningHorizon_CBobro.mp3 play] by Cameron Bobro


=Links=
== Links ==
 
<ul><li>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/41_equal_temperament Wikipedia article on 41edo]</li><li>[[Magic22_as_srutis#magic22assrutis|Magic22 as srutis]] describes a possible use of 41edo for [[Indian|indian]] music.</li><li>see also [[Magic_family|Magic family]]</li><li>Sword, Ron. [http://www.ronsword.com "Tetracontamonophonic Scales for Guitar"]</li><li>Taylor, Cam. [https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3wIGTmjY_VZYllwcHI0d3hEc3M Intervals, Scales and Chords in 41EDO], a work in progress using just intonation concepts and simplified Sagittal notation.</li></ul>
<ul><li>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/41_equal_temperament Wikipedia article on 41edo]</li><li>[[Magic22_as_srutis#magic22assrutis|Magic22 as srutis]] describes a possible use of 41edo for [[Indian|indian]] music.</li><li>see also [[Magic_family|Magic family]]</li><li>Sword, Ron. [http://www.ronsword.com "Tetracontamonophonic Scales for Guitar"]</li><li>Taylor, Cam. [https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3wIGTmjY_VZYllwcHI0d3hEc3M Intervals, Scales and Chords in 41EDO], a work in progress using just intonation concepts and simplified Sagittal notation.</li></ul>
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