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!Keenan Category
!Keenan Category
!Margo's Method
!Margo's Method
![[User:PiotrGrochowski/Extra-Diatonic Intervals|Piotr Grochowski]]
!SagiSpeak
!SagiSpeak
!Ups and a-downs
!Ups and a-downs
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|P1
|P1
|Unison
|Unison
|unison
|P1
|P1
|P1, m2
|P1, m2
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|m2
|m2
|Minor 2nd
|Minor 2nd
|high unison
|pai-P1
|pai-P1
|^1, ^m2
|^1, ^m2
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|M2
|M2
|Large Neutral 2nd
|Large Neutral 2nd
|low augmented unison
|pao-M2
|pao-M2
|vM2
|vM2
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|A2/d3
|A2/d3
|Large Major 2nd
|Large Major 2nd
|augmented unison
|M2
|M2
|M2, m3
|M2, m3
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|m3
|m3
|Large Minor 3rd
|Large Minor 3rd
|minor second
|pai-m3
|pai-m3
|^m3
|^m3
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|M3
|M3
|Major 3rd
|Major 3rd
|low neutral second
|pao-M3
|pao-M3
|vM3
|vM3
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|P4
|P4
|Small Perfect 4th
|Small Perfect 4th
|high neutral second
|P4
|P4
|M3, P4, d5
|M3, P4, d5
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|A4
|A4
|Small Tritone
|Small Tritone
|major second
|pai-P4
|pai-P4
|^4, ^d5
|^4, ^d5
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|d5
|d5
|Large Tritone
|Large Tritone
|high major second
|pao-P5
|pao-P5
|vA4, v5
|vA4, v5
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|P5
|P5
|Large Perfect 5th
|Large Perfect 5th
|second–third
|P5
|P5
|A4, P5, m6
|A4, P5, m6
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|m6
|m6
|Minor 6th
|Minor 6th
|low minor third
|pai-m6
|pai-m6
|^5, ^m6
|^5, ^m6
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|M6
|M6
|Small Major 6th
|Small Major 6th
|minor third
|pao-M6
|pao-M6
|vA5, vM6
|vA5, vM6
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|A6/d7
|A6/d7
|Small Minor 7th
|Small Minor 7th
|low neutral third
|m7
|m7
|M6, m7
|M6, m7
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|m7
|m7
|Small Neutral 7th
|Small Neutral 7th
|high neutral third
|pai-m7
|pai-m7
|^m7
|^m7
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|M7
|M7
|Major 7th
|Major 7th
|major third
|pao-P8
|pao-P8
|vM7, v8
|vM7, v8
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|P8
|P8
|Octave
|Octave
|high major third
|P8
|P8
|M7, P8
|M7, P8
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|P1
|P1
|Unison
|Unison
|third–fourth
|P1
|P1
|P1, m2
|P1, m2
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|m2
|m2
|Minor 2nd
|Minor 2nd
|low fourth
|pai-P1
|pai-P1
|^1, ^m2
|^1, ^m2
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|M2
|M2
|Large Neutral 2nd
|Large Neutral 2nd
|fourth
|pao-M2
|pao-M2
|vM2
|vM2
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|A2/d3
|A2/d3
|Large Major 2nd
|Large Major 2nd
|high fourth
|M2
|M2
|M2, m3
|M2, m3
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|m3
|m3
|Large Minor 3rd
|Large Minor 3rd
|low augmented fourth
|pai-m3
|pai-m3
|^m3
|^m3
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|M3
|M3
|Major 3rd
|Major 3rd
|augmented fourth
|pao-M3
|pao-M3
|vM3
|vM3
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|P4
|P4
|Small Perfect 4th
|Small Perfect 4th
|diminished fifth
|P4
|P4
|M3, P4, d5
|M3, P4, d5
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|A4
|A4
|Small Tritone
|Small Tritone
|high diminished fifth
|pai-P4
|pai-P4
|^4, ^d5
|^4, ^d5
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|d5
|d5
|Large Tritone
|Large Tritone
|low fifth
|pao-P5
|pao-P5
|vA4, v5
|vA4, v5
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|P5
|P5
|Large Perfect 5th
|Large Perfect 5th
|fifth
|P5
|P5
|A4, P5, m6
|A4, P5, m6
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|m6
|m6
|Minor 6th
|Minor 6th
|high fifth
|pai-m6
|pai-m6
|^5, ^m6
|^5, ^m6
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|M6
|M6
|Small Major 6th
|Small Major 6th
|fifth–sixth
|pao-M6
|pao-M6
|vA5, vM6
|vA5, vM6
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|A6/d7
|A6/d7
|Small Minor 7th
|Small Minor 7th
|low minor sixth
|m7
|m7
|M6, m7
|M6, m7
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|m7
|m7
|Small Neutral 7th
|Small Neutral 7th
|minor sixth
|pai-m7
|pai-m7
|^m7
|^m7
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|M7
|M7
|Major 7th
|Major 7th
|low neutral sixth
|pao-P8
|pao-P8
|vM7, v8
|vM7, v8
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|P8
|P8
|Octave
|Octave
|high neutral sixth
|P8
|P8
|M7, P8
|M7, P8
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|P1
|P1
|Unison
|Unison
|major sixth
|P1
|P1
|P1, m2
|P1, m2
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|m2
|m2
|Minor 2nd
|Minor 2nd
|high major sixth
|pai-P1
|pai-P1
|^1, ^m2
|^1, ^m2
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|M2
|M2
|Large Neutral 2nd
|Large Neutral 2nd
|sixth–seventh
|pao-M2
|pao-M2
|vM2
|vM2
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|A2/d3
|A2/d3
|Large Major 2nd
|Large Major 2nd
|low minor seventh
|M2
|M2
|M2, m3
|M2, m3
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|m3
|m3
|Large Minor 3rd
|Large Minor 3rd
|minor seventh
|pai-m3
|pai-m3
|^m3
|^m3
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|M3
|M3
|Major 3rd
|Major 3rd
|low neutral seventh
|pao-M3
|pao-M3
|vM3
|vM3
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|P4
|P4
|Small Perfect 4th
|Small Perfect 4th
|high neutral seventh
|P4
|P4
|M3, P4, d5
|M3, P4, d5
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|A4
|A4
|Small Tritone
|Small Tritone
|major seventh
|pai-P4
|pai-P4
|^4, ^d5
|^4, ^d5
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|d5
|d5
|Large Tritone
|Large Tritone
|diminished octave
|pao-P5
|pao-P5
|vA4, v5
|vA4, v5
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|P5
|P5
|Large Perfect 5th
|Large Perfect 5th
|high diminished octave
|P5
|P5
|A4, P5, m6
|A4, P5, m6
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|m6
|m6
|Minor 6th
|Minor 6th
|low octave
|pai-m6
|pai-m6
|^5, ^m6
|^5, ^m6
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|M6
|M6
|Small Major 6th
|Small Major 6th
|octave
|pao-M6
|pao-M6
|vA5, vM6
|vA5, vM6

Revision as of 19:03, 4 October 2018

Degree Cents Aaron's Answer Igs' Input Kite's Correction Keenan Category Margo's Method Piotr Grochowski SagiSpeak Ups and a-downs Gareth's Go Extended meantone notation (named) Represented Ratios
0 0 P1 Unison Unison P1 Unison unison P1 P1, m2 P1 unison 1/1
1 80 m2 Subminor 2nd Subminor 2nd m2 Minor 2nd high unison pai-P1 ^1, ^m2 m2 Error unison 25/24, 21/20, 16/15
2 160 NM2 (Narrow M2) Neutral 2nd Neutral 2nd M2 Large Neutral 2nd low augmented unison pao-M2 vM2 M2 Error unison 11/10, 12/11, 10/9
3 240 LM2 Supermajor 2nd Supermajor 2nd A2/d3 Large Major 2nd augmented unison M2 M2, m3 Serd* augmented unison 8/7, 7/6, 9/8
4 320 Lm3 Minor 3rd Minor 3rd m3 Large Minor 3rd minor second pai-m3 ^m3 m3 minor second 6/5, 11/9
5 400 M3 Major 3rd Major 3rd M3 Major 3rd low neutral second pao-M3 vM3 M3 Error second 5/4, 14/11
6 480 S4 (Small 4) Sub 4th Sub 4th P4 Small Perfect 4th high neutral second P4 M3, P4, d5 P4 Error second 4/3, 9/7, 21/16
7 560 Na4/Sd5 Narrow Tritone Super 4th A4 Small Tritone major second pai-P4 ^4, ^d5 A4 major second 11/8, 7/5
8 640 La4/Wd5 Wide Tritone Sub 5th d5 Large Tritone high major second pao-P5 vA4, v5 d5 Error second 16/11, 10/7
9 720 L5 Super 5th Super 5th P5 Large Perfect 5th second–third P5 A4, P5, m6 P5 Error second 3/2, 14/9, 32/21
10 800 m6 Minor 6th Minor 6th m6 Minor 6th low minor third pai-m6 ^5, ^m6 m6 augmented second 8/5, 11/7
11 880 SM6 Major 6th Major 6th M6 Small Major 6th minor third pao-M6 vA5, vM6 M6 minor third 5/3, 18/11
12 960 SM7 Subminor 7th Subminor 7th A6/d7 Small Minor 7th low neutral third m7 M6, m7 Sinth* Error third 7/4, 12/7, 16/9
13 1040 Wm7 Neutral 7th Neutral 7th m7 Small Neutral 7th high neutral third pai-m7 ^m7 m7 Error third 20/11, 11/6, 9/5
14 1120 M7 Supermajor 7th Supermajor 7th M7 Major 7th major third pao-P8 vM7, v8 M7 major third 48/25, 40/21, 15/8
15 1200 P8 Octave Octave P8 Octave high major third P8 M7, P8 P8 2/1
16 0 P1 Unison Unison P1 Unison third–fourth P1 P1, m2 P1 1/1
17 80 m2 Subminor 2nd Subminor 2nd m2 Minor 2nd low fourth pai-P1 ^1, ^m2 m2 25/24, 21/20, 16/15
18 160 NM2 (Narrow M2) Neutral 2nd Neutral 2nd M2 Large Neutral 2nd fourth pao-M2 vM2 M2 11/10, 12/11, 10/9
19 240 LM2 Supermajor 2nd Supermajor 2nd A2/d3 Large Major 2nd high fourth M2 M2, m3 Serd* 8/7, 7/6, 9/8
20 320 Lm3 Minor 3rd Minor 3rd m3 Large Minor 3rd low augmented fourth pai-m3 ^m3 m3 6/5, 11/9
21 400 M3 Major 3rd Major 3rd M3 Major 3rd augmented fourth pao-M3 vM3 M3 5/4, 14/11
22 480 S4 (Small 4) Sub 4th Sub 4th P4 Small Perfect 4th diminished fifth P4 M3, P4, d5 P4 4/3, 9/7, 21/16
23 560 Na4/Sd5 Narrow Tritone Super 4th A4 Small Tritone high diminished fifth pai-P4 ^4, ^d5 A4 11/8, 7/5
24 640 La4/Wd5 Wide Tritone Sub 5th d5 Large Tritone low fifth pao-P5 vA4, v5 d5 16/11, 10/7
25 720 L5 Super 5th Super 5th P5 Large Perfect 5th fifth P5 A4, P5, m6 P5 3/2, 14/9, 32/21
26 800 m6 Minor 6th Minor 6th m6 Minor 6th high fifth pai-m6 ^5, ^m6 m6 8/5, 11/7
27 880 SM6 Major 6th Major 6th M6 Small Major 6th fifth–sixth pao-M6 vA5, vM6 M6 5/3, 18/11
28 960 SM7 Subminor 7th Subminor 7th A6/d7 Small Minor 7th low minor sixth m7 M6, m7 Sinth* 7/4, 12/7, 16/9
29 1040 Wm7 Neutral 7th Neutral 7th m7 Small Neutral 7th minor sixth pai-m7 ^m7 m7 20/11, 11/6, 9/5
30 1120 M7 Supermajor 7th Supermajor 7th M7 Major 7th low neutral sixth pao-P8 vM7, v8 M7 48/25, 40/21, 15/8
31 1200 P8 Octave Octave P8 Octave high neutral sixth P8 M7, P8 P8 2/1
32 0 P1 Unison Unison P1 Unison major sixth P1 P1, m2 P1 1/1
33 80 m2 Subminor 2nd Subminor 2nd m2 Minor 2nd high major sixth pai-P1 ^1, ^m2 m2 25/24, 21/20, 16/15
34 160 NM2 (Narrow M2) Neutral 2nd Neutral 2nd M2 Large Neutral 2nd sixth–seventh pao-M2 vM2 M2 11/10, 12/11, 10/9
35 240 LM2 Supermajor 2nd Supermajor 2nd A2/d3 Large Major 2nd low minor seventh M2 M2, m3 Serd* 8/7, 7/6, 9/8
36 320 Lm3 Minor 3rd Minor 3rd m3 Large Minor 3rd minor seventh pai-m3 ^m3 m3 6/5, 11/9
37 400 M3 Major 3rd Major 3rd M3 Major 3rd low neutral seventh pao-M3 vM3 M3 5/4, 14/11
38 480 S4 (Small 4) Sub 4th Sub 4th P4 Small Perfect 4th high neutral seventh P4 M3, P4, d5 P4 4/3, 9/7, 21/16
39 560 Na4/Sd5 Narrow Tritone Super 4th A4 Small Tritone major seventh pai-P4 ^4, ^d5 A4 11/8, 7/5
40 640 La4/Wd5 Wide Tritone Sub 5th d5 Large Tritone diminished octave pao-P5 vA4, v5 d5 16/11, 10/7
41 720 L5 Super 5th Super 5th P5 Large Perfect 5th high diminished octave P5 A4, P5, m6 P5 3/2, 14/9, 32/21
42 800 m6 Minor 6th Minor 6th m6 Minor 6th low octave pai-m6 ^5, ^m6 m6 8/5, 11/7
43 880 SM6 Major 6th Major 6th M6 Small Major 6th octave pao-M6 vA5, vM6 M6 5/3, 18/11

*'Serd' and 'Sinth' are Portmanteaux of Second and Third; and Sixth and Seventh respectively. These intervals represent exact half Perfect 4ths and Perfect 5ths, and replace the "regular" interval name. I have put them in there to gain functionality at the cost of losing familiarity/introducing novelty in addition to 'HO', the half-octave. My (Gareth's) system at this stage is the same as Dave Keenan's but for the addition of these. I suppose they could just be optional additional names for those steps. I was led to this after not finding any reason to change Dave's system, but not liking that it led to A2/d3 for the 240c interval in 5n-edos, and A6/d7 for the 960c interval. Seems weird.

Sagi-Speak, Ups and Downs, and Colours are all great, but are completely new ideas that can be linked to on the pages. Sagi-Speak and Ups are directly linked to the two main options for notation.

I like Igs' and Dave's systems the best I think. They are very different. Both are 'size' based rather than 'function', but the point of reference for Igs' is 12edo, which would be more familiar to new readers. Dave's uses JI / 72edo alterations two short chains of the edos best fifth - giving the perfect and neutral intervals, so is malleable in it's application to edos, and more able to reflect the 'function' of the intervals in an edo. I've added a few functional labels to it. Might be best to have those in brackets. At this stage I would like to see both on every edo page. Igs' has a point that his extra-diatonic names need not or perhaps should not be associated with ratios. Dave's on the other hand benifit from such an association. Perhaps an edo page could start with Igs' in the intervals section without ratios as he first edits, and in the temperament section Dave's names can be included.

I've done this for 72edo as well.