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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">**Superpyth**, a member of the [[Archytas clan]], has 4/3 as a generator, and the Archytas comma 64/63 is [[tempering out|tempered out]], so two generators represents 7/4 in addition to 16/9. Since 4/3 is a generator we can use the same standard chain-of-fourths notation that is also used for [[meantone]] and [[12edo]], with the understanding that, for example, A# is sharper than Bb (in contrast to meantone where A# is flatter than Bb, or 12edo where they are identical). | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">[[toc|flat]] | ||
**Superpyth**, a member of the [[Archytas clan]], has 4/3 as a generator, and the Archytas comma 64/63 is [[tempering out|tempered out]], so two generators represents 7/4 in addition to 16/9. Since 4/3 is a generator we can use the same standard chain-of-fourths notation that is also used for [[meantone]] and [[12edo]], with the understanding that, for example, A# is sharper than Bb (in contrast to meantone where A# is flatter than Bb, or 12edo where they are identical). | |||
If the 5th harmonic is used at all, it is mapped to -9 generators, so C-D# is 5/4. So superpyth is "the opposite of" septimal meantone in several different ways: meantone has 4/3 tempered wide so that intervals of 5 are simple and intervals of 7 are complex, while superpyth has 4/3 tempered narrow so that intervals of 7 are simple while intervals of 5 are complex. | If the 5th harmonic is used at all, it is mapped to -9 generators, so C-D# is 5/4. So superpyth is "the opposite of" septimal meantone in several different ways: meantone has 4/3 tempered wide so that intervals of 5 are simple and intervals of 7 are complex, while superpyth has 4/3 tempered narrow so that intervals of 7 are simple while intervals of 5 are complex. | ||
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MOSes include 5, 7, 12, 17, and 22. | MOSes include 5, 7, 12, 17, and 22. | ||
=Superpyth= | |||
Commas: 64/63, 245/243 | |||
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 710.291 | |||
Map: [<1 0 -12 6|, <0 1 9 -2|] | |||
Wedgie: <<1 9 -2 12 -6 -30|| | |||
EDOs: 5, 17, 22, 27, 49 | |||
Badness: 0.0323 | |||
==Suprapyth= | |||
Commas: 55/54, 64/63, 99/98 | |||
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 709.495 | |||
Map: [<1 0 -12 6 13|, <0 1 9 -2 -6|] | |||
EDOs: 5, 17, 22 | |||
Badness: 0.0328 | |||
==Interval chains== | ==Interval chains== | ||
===Basic superpyth (2.3.7)=== | ===Basic superpyth (2.3.7)=== | ||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Superpyth</title></head><body><strong>Superpyth</strong>, a member of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Archytas%20clan">Archytas clan</a>, has 4/3 as a generator, and the Archytas comma 64/63 is <a class="wiki_link" href="/tempering%20out">tempered out</a>, so two generators represents 7/4 in addition to 16/9. Since 4/3 is a generator we can use the same standard chain-of-fourths notation that is also used for <a class="wiki_link" href="/meantone">meantone</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12edo</a>, with the understanding that, for example, A# is sharper than Bb (in contrast to meantone where A# is flatter than Bb, or 12edo where they are identical).<br /> | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Superpyth</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:22:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@flat&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaTocFlat&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/flat?w=100&amp;h=16&quot;/&gt; --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:22 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:23: --><a href="#Superpyth">Superpyth</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:23 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:24: --> | <a href="#x=Suprapyth">=Suprapyth</a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:24 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:25: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:25 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:26: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:26 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:27: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:27 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:28: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:28 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:29: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:29 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:30: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:30 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:31: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:31 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:32: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:32 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:33: --><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:33 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:34: --> | ||
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<strong>Superpyth</strong>, a member of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Archytas%20clan">Archytas clan</a>, has 4/3 as a generator, and the Archytas comma 64/63 is <a class="wiki_link" href="/tempering%20out">tempered out</a>, so two generators represents 7/4 in addition to 16/9. Since 4/3 is a generator we can use the same standard chain-of-fourths notation that is also used for <a class="wiki_link" href="/meantone">meantone</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12edo</a>, with the understanding that, for example, A# is sharper than Bb (in contrast to meantone where A# is flatter than Bb, or 12edo where they are identical).<br /> | |||
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If the 5th harmonic is used at all, it is mapped to -9 generators, so C-D# is 5/4. So superpyth is &quot;the opposite of&quot; septimal meantone in several different ways: meantone has 4/3 tempered wide so that intervals of 5 are simple and intervals of 7 are complex, while superpyth has 4/3 tempered narrow so that intervals of 7 are simple while intervals of 5 are complex.<br /> | If the 5th harmonic is used at all, it is mapped to -9 generators, so C-D# is 5/4. So superpyth is &quot;the opposite of&quot; septimal meantone in several different ways: meantone has 4/3 tempered wide so that intervals of 5 are simple and intervals of 7 are complex, while superpyth has 4/3 tempered narrow so that intervals of 7 are simple while intervals of 5 are complex.<br /> | ||
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MOSes include 5, 7, 12, 17, and 22.<br /> | MOSes include 5, 7, 12, 17, and 22.<br /> | ||
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Commas: 64/63, 245/243<br /> | |||
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 710.291<br /> | |||
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Map: [&lt;1 0 -12 6|, &lt;0 1 9 -2|]<br /> | |||
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;1 9 -2 12 -6 -30||<br /> | |||
EDOs: 5, 17, 22, 27, 49<br /> | |||
Badness: 0.0323<br /> | |||
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Commas: 55/54, 64/63, 99/98<br /> | |||
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 709.495<br /> | |||
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Map: [&lt;1 0 -12 6 13|, &lt;0 1 9 -2 -6|]<br /> | |||
EDOs: 5, 17, 22<br /> | |||
Badness: 0.0328<br /> | |||
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See <a class="wiki_link" href="/2L%203s">2L 3s</a>.<br /> | See <a class="wiki_link" href="/2L%203s">2L 3s</a>.<br /> | ||
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See <a class="wiki_link" href="/5L%202s">5L 2s</a>. In contrast to the meantone diatonic scale, the superpyth diatonic is slightly improper.<br /> | See <a class="wiki_link" href="/5L%202s">5L 2s</a>. In contrast to the meantone diatonic scale, the superpyth diatonic is slightly improper.<br /> | ||
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See <a class="wiki_link" href="/5L%207s">5L 7s</a>. The boundary of propriety is <a class="wiki_link" href="/17edo">17edo</a>.</body></html></pre></div> | See <a class="wiki_link" href="/5L%207s">5L 7s</a>. The boundary of propriety is <a class="wiki_link" href="/17edo">17edo</a>.</body></html></pre></div> | ||