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Due to the dreaded "template include too large" error, moved the Valentine Lumatone mappings here from the main [[User:Lucius_Chiaraviglio/Keyboard_Layout_Lab|Keyboard Layout Lab]] page. | Due to the dreaded "template include too large" error, moved the Valentine Lumatone mappings here from the main [[User:Lucius_Chiaraviglio/Keyboard_Layout_Lab|Keyboard Layout Lab]] page. | ||
== Valentine Lumatone mappings == | == Ultra-Compressed Valentine Lumatone mappings == | ||
[[User:TheUniverseOfMusic|The Universe of Music]] invented the [[Valentine]] [[15L 1s]] (or [[1L 14s]]) mapping for [[31edo]]; I thought that while this mapping suffers in range for 31edo, from the demonstration video, it clearly works. It occurred to me that this mapping might really shine for larger EDO sizes, so I made some, including a couple that use [[15L 1s]] for construction but have it so soft that even though they are still technically on the Valentine temperament, they are far outside its optimal tuning specifications. And then [[Bryan Deister]] tried out the one for [[61edo]], and it works. | [[User:TheUniverseOfMusic|The Universe of Music]] invented the [[Valentine]] [[15L 1s]] (or [[1L 14s]]) mapping for [[31edo]]; I thought that while this mapping suffers in range for 31edo, from the demonstration video, it clearly works. It occurred to me that this mapping might really shine for larger EDO sizes, so I made some, including a couple that use [[15L 1s]] for construction but have it so soft that even though they are still technically on the Valentine temperament, they are far outside its optimal tuning specifications. And then [[Bryan Deister]] tried out the one for [[61edo]], and it works. | ||
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[[User:TheUniverseOfMusic|The Universe of Music]] has used the following layout, demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK1JQWefj-s ''Her Gentle Touch''] (2025). In this video, even notes are mapped to red keys, and odd notes are mapped to purple keys, each outlining a Valentine [[15L 1s]] scale). This layout is inspired by the Ultra-Compressed version of the [[Lumatone mapping for porcupine]], but is even more compressed. Octaves are in horizontal rows, but stretched out over a large distance (which would be even longer if the layout were not made extremely compressed), so that the range is just slightly over 3 octaves (not counting some gamut fragments in the upper left and lower right corners), while notes are repeated multiple times vertically (at a slant), which allows an easy reach for octaves and other intervals that would require very long fingers if only available purely horizontally. | [[User:TheUniverseOfMusic|The Universe of Music]] has used the following layout, demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK1JQWefj-s ''Her Gentle Touch''] (2025). In this video, even notes are mapped to red keys, and odd notes are mapped to purple keys, each outlining a Valentine [[15L 1s]] scale). This layout is inspired by the Ultra-Compressed version of the [[Lumatone mapping for porcupine]], but is even more compressed. Octaves are in horizontal rows, but stretched out over a large distance (which would be even longer if the layout were not made extremely compressed), so that the range is just slightly over 3 octaves (not counting some gamut fragments in the upper left and lower right corners), while notes are repeated multiple times vertically (at a slant), which allows an easy reach for octaves and other intervals that would require very long fingers if only available purely horizontally. | ||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=31|start=0|xstep=2|ystep=3}} | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=31|start=0|xstep=2|ystep=3}} | ||
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=== 46edo (proposed and untested) === | === 46edo (proposed and untested) === | ||
Octaves start to slant down a bit. | Octaves start to slant down a bit. Playability not tested. | ||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=46|start=0|xstep=3|ystep=4}} | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=46|start=0|xstep=3|ystep=4}} | ||
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=== 61edo (demonstrated to work) === | === 61edo (demonstrated to work) === | ||
[[Bryan Deister]] has used the following layout, as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1Ai__APev5M ''microtonal improvisation in 61edo''] (2025), inspired by the [[Valentine]] version of the [[Lumatone mapping for 31edo]], but with a different idea how to use Valentine, so that the color scheme in the demonstration video has runs of 14 (rather than 16) keys in a row of the same color, except for solid dark blue keys being in groups of 5 (this scheme being chosen to favor easy visibility of major and minor thirds | [[Bryan Deister]] has used the following layout, as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1Ai__APev5M ''microtonal improvisation in 61edo''] (2025), inspired by the [[Valentine]] version of the [[Lumatone mapping for 31edo]], but with a different idea how to use Valentine, so that the color scheme in the demonstration video has runs of 14 (rather than 16) keys in a row of the same color, except for solid dark blue keys being in groups of 5 (this scheme being chosen to favor easy visibility of major and minor thirds over outlining the [[15L 1s]] or [[1L 14s]] scale). Unlike the 31edo mapping that inspred this one, octaves are in an alternating pattern of near/far and middle with a slight overall upward slant, but all notes are still represented at least once; the range is just slightly over two octaves (not counting some considerable gamut fragments in the upper left and lower right corners). | ||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=61|start=5|xstep=4|ystep=5}} | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=61|start=5|xstep=4|ystep=5}} | ||
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=== 76edo (proposed and untested) === | === 76edo (proposed and untested) === | ||
Octaves slant down severely, but all notes still represented at least once. | Octaves slant down severely, but all notes still represented at least once. Uses the 76b val. Playability not tested. | ||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=76|start=0|xstep=5|ystep=6}} | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=76|start=0|xstep=5|ystep=6}} | ||
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=== 77edo (proposed and untested) === | === 77edo (proposed and untested) === | ||
Inspired by the [[Valentine]] version of the [[Lumatone mapping for 31edo]], the [[15L 1s]] (or [[1L 14s]]) mapping for [[77edo]] succeeds in avoiding missed notes in the middle octaves; the range is a bit over two octaves, and the octaves slant up. This mapping is a placeholder proposed as a way to avoid the missed notes of the layouts above, although at the cost of some common intervals being spaced very widely, and with considerable gamut fragments present in the upper left and lower right corners. | Inspired by the [[Valentine]] version of the [[Lumatone mapping for 31edo]], the [[15L 1s]] (or [[1L 14s]]) mapping for [[77edo]] succeeds in avoiding missed notes in the middle octaves; the range is a bit over two octaves, and the octaves slant up. This mapping is a placeholder proposed as a way to avoid the missed notes of the layouts above, although at the cost of some common intervals being spaced very widely, and with considerable gamut fragments present in the upper left and lower right corners. | ||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=77|start=0|xstep=5|ystep=6}} | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=77|start=0|xstep=5|ystep=6}} | ||
Added: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 12:02, 11 March 2025 (UTC)<br> | |||
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=== 78edo (proposed and untested) === | === 78edo (proposed and untested) === | ||
What happens if we go softer than Valentine should be? | What happens if we go softer than Valentine should be? Uses the 78b val. Octaves now slant up only slightly, and all notes are still represented. Playability not tested. | ||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=78|start=0|xstep=5|ystep=6}} | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=78|start=0|xstep=5|ystep=6}} | ||
=== 79edo (proposed and untested === | Added: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 12:02, 11 March 2025 (UTC)<br> | ||
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=== 79edo (proposed and untested) === | |||
What happens if we go even still softer than Valentine should be? Uses the 79bb val, so really at best an exo-Valentine tuning, or more properly a tuning of a Valentine-related temperament. Octaves now slant down slightly, and all notes are still represented. Playability not tested. | |||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=79|start=0|xstep=5|ystep=6}} | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=79|start=0|xstep=5|ystep=6}} | ||
Added: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 12:02, 11 March 2025 (UTC)<br> | Added: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 12:02, 11 March 2025 (UTC)<br> | ||
Last modified: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 09:37, 2 July 2025 (UTC) | Last modified: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 09:37, 2 July 2025 (UTC) | ||
== Expanded Valentine Lumatone mappings == | |||
The Ultra-Compressed Valentine mappings require backtracking by two keys to get through the small step of the [[15L 1s]] scale or by one key to get through the large step of the [[1L 14s]] scale. The Expanded Valentine mapping trades away a fair amount of range in exchange for getting rid of all of the backtracking. | |||
=== 79edo (demonstrated to work but awaiting approval) === | |||
[[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated an expanded [[15L 1s]] (5:4 step ratio, with no backtracking) mapping for [[78edo]], in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imi-Sz2Ab8M ''79edo groove''] (2026). This is like a [[Valentine]] mapping, but in a region of Valentine that is so flat as to be an exo-temperament region of Valentine, depending upon the interval of interest. Three rightward generators 5\79 still make a (slightly flat) septimal whole tone ~[[8/7]], as in normal Valentine, but unlike actual Valentine, nine of them fall 1\79 short of the patent fifth ~[[3/2]] (46\79). The range is a bit over two octaves, with a gentle downwards slope. | |||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=79|start=76|xstep=5|ystep=-1}} | |||
Added: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 06:33, 13 October 2026 (UTC) | |||
[[Category:Lumatone mappings]] | [[Category:Lumatone mappings]] | ||