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The concept started as an interval in the diatonic scale, and is still used this way. The interval region is a later association. You can't just make it the main definition
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A '''neutral third (n3)''', as a concrete [[interval region]], is typically near 350 [[cents]] in size, distinct from the [[minor third]] of roughly 300 [[cent]]s and the [[major third]] of roughly 400{{c}}. A rough tuning range for the neutral third is 330 to 370{{c}} according to [[Margo Schulter]]'s theory of interval regions.  
A '''neutral third (n3)''' is an interval that spans two steps of the [[5L 2s|diatonic]] scale with a quality between major and minor. It exists in [[neutralization|neutralized]] diatonic scales as exactly one half of a [[perfect fifth]].  


In [[just intonation]], an interval may be classified as a neutral third if it is reasonably mapped to two steps of the diatonic scale and three and a half steps of the chromatic scale.  
In [[just intonation]], an interval may be classified as a neutral third if it is reasonably mapped to 2\7 and [[24edo|7\24]] (precisely two steps of the diatonic scale and three and a half steps of the chromatic scale).  


In the [[diatonic]] scale, a neutral third spans two steps of the [[5L 2s|diatonic]] scale with a quality between major and minor. It exists in [[neutralization|neutralized]] diatonic scales as exactly one half of a [[perfect fifth]].
As a concrete [[interval region]], it is typically near 350 [[cents]] in size, distinct from the [[minor third]] of roughly 300 [[cent]]s and the [[major third]] of roughly 400{{c}}. A rough tuning range for the neutral third is 330 to 370{{c}} according to [[Margo Schulter]]'s theory of interval regions.


Two neutral thirds stack to a perfect fifth, and as such the neutral third range is generally divided at roughly 350{{c}} into '''artoneutral''' (flatter) and '''tendoneutral''' (sharper) thirds. As such, neutral thirds tend to exist in pairs.
Two neutral thirds stack to a perfect fifth, and as such the neutral third range is generally divided at roughly 350{{c}} into '''artoneutral''' (flatter) and '''tendoneutral''' (sharper) thirds. As such, neutral thirds tend to exist in pairs.
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== In EDOs ==
== In edos ==
The following table lists the best tuning of 39/32 and 16/13 in various significant [[edo|EDO]]s. For applicable EDOs, it also lists one half of the EDO's perfect fifth, approximating 1\[[2edf]], which, while not a just interval, is the "canonical" neutral third tuning, as stacking two of them gives [[3/2]].
The following table lists the best tuning of 39/32 and 16/13 in various significant [[edo]]s. For applicable edos, it also lists one half of the edo's perfect fifth, approximating 1\[[2edf]], which, while not a just interval, is the "canonical" neutral third tuning, as stacking two of them gives [[3/2]].


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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! EDO
! Edo
! 1\2edf
! 1\2edf
! 39/32
! 39/32
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== In moment-of-symmetry scales ==
== In moment-of-symmetry scales ==
Intervals between 327 and 400{{c}} generate the following [[mos|MOS]] scales:
Intervals between 327 and 400{{c}} generate the following [[mos]] scales:


These tables start from the last monolarge MOS generated by the interval range.
These tables start from the last monolarge mos generated by the interval range.


Scales with more than 12 notes are not included.
Scales with more than 12 notes are not included.
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! Range
! Range
! colspan="4" | MOS
! colspan="4" | Mos
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| 327–343{{c}}
| 327–343{{c}}