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I began studying and playing with 13 Equal Temperament (~~13 EDO~~) after hearing about the wonderful scales it contained. The scales of 13 edo rival that of the diatonic scale in ~~12 EDO~~. Most people complain "13 EDO sounds like crap. It's a horrible tuning or at least one that isn't capable of warm, happy music". Playing in 13 Edo for a few days shows this to be a total lie. 13 Equal is an odd creature, it requires vastly different approaches than meantone tunings like 19 or 12 because it lacks a decent perfect fifth. But that's ok, we don't the need the fifth to make nice harmony, the fifth in 13 edo takes on a much different role as a chord extension and isn't considered part of the bass harmony. (More on that in a minute) Not only that, but 13 edo also has a weird fourth which makes it appear to be a bad tuning to a noob. However, I have recorded my ideas on harmony, melody, scales and more on the tuning here.

I began studying and playing with 13 Equal Temperament ([[13EDO]]) after hearing about the wonderful scales it contained. The scales of 13 edo rival that of the diatonic scale in [[12EDO]]. Most people complain "13 EDO sounds like crap. It's a horrible tuning or at least one that isn't capable of warm, happy music". Playing in 13 Edo for a few days shows this to be a total lie. 13 Equal is an odd creature, it requires vastly different approaches than meantone tunings like 19 or 12 because it lacks a decent perfect fifth. But that's ok, we don't the need the fifth to make nice harmony, the fifth in 13 edo takes on a much different role as a chord extension and isn't considered part of the bass harmony. (More on that in a minute) Not only that, but 13 edo also has a weird fourth which makes it appear to be a bad tuning to a noob. However, I have recorded my ideas on harmony, melody, scales and more on the tuning here.

I call 13 EDO "The tuning from a parallel universe" It's so vastly unique from 12 EDO and lacks the essentials of western harmony, the perfect fifth and perfect fourth. Although there is a fourth and fifth, they are entirely different beast than the 12 EDO ones, but this is a good thing because the trade off is sounds that have a dreamy like quality as well as other unique sounds. 13 EDO literally sounds like something from another world, it's different and exotic but at the same time, it can be warm and somewhat modal sounding if played right. If played wrong, it can sounds really, really horrible, try it, try playing a classical bach piece in 13 edo, it sucks. 13 EDO gives us the ability to take a new approach to melody and harmony and start fresh to give something really fun to play around with. Though be warned, it requires a bit of a learning curve to hear it, learn to follow it's odd melodic properties as well as harmonic resolutions. However, I believe it's an amazing tuning if you just give it some love :)

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I began studying and playing with 13 Equal Temperament (~~13 EDO~~) after hearing about the wonderful scales it contained. The scales of 13 edo rival that of the diatonic scale in ~~12 EDO~~. Most people complain &quot;13 EDO sounds like crap. It's a horrible tuning or at least one that isn't capable of warm, happy music&quot;. Playing in 13 Edo for a few days shows this to be a total lie. 13 Equal is an odd creature, it requires vastly different approaches than meantone tunings like 19 or 12 because it lacks a decent perfect fifth. But that's ok, we don't the need the fifth to make nice harmony, the fifth in 13 edo takes on a much different role as a chord extension and isn't considered part of the bass harmony. (More on that in a minute) Not only that, but 13 edo also has a weird fourth which makes it appear to be a bad tuning to a noob. However, I have recorded my ideas on harmony, melody, scales and more on the tuning here.

I began studying and playing with 13 Equal Temperament (<a class="wiki_link" href="/13EDO">13EDO</a>) after hearing about the wonderful scales it contained. The scales of 13 edo rival that of the diatonic scale in <a class="wiki_link" href="/12EDO">12EDO</a>. Most people complain &quot;13 EDO sounds like crap. It's a horrible tuning or at least one that isn't capable of warm, happy music&quot;. Playing in 13 Edo for a few days shows this to be a total lie. 13 Equal is an odd creature, it requires vastly different approaches than meantone tunings like 19 or 12 because it lacks a decent perfect fifth. But that's ok, we don't the need the fifth to make nice harmony, the fifth in 13 edo takes on a much different role as a chord extension and isn't considered part of the bass harmony. (More on that in a minute) Not only that, but 13 edo also has a weird fourth which makes it appear to be a bad tuning to a noob. However, I have recorded my ideas on harmony, melody, scales and more on the tuning here.

I call 13 EDO &quot;The tuning from a parallel universe&quot; It's so vastly unique from 12 EDO and lacks the essentials of western harmony, the perfect fifth and perfect fourth. Although there is a fourth and fifth, they are entirely different beast than the 12 EDO ones, but this is a good thing because the trade off is sounds that have a dreamy like quality as well as other unique sounds. 13 EDO literally sounds like something from another world, it's different and exotic but at the same time, it can be warm and somewhat modal sounding if played right. If played wrong, it can sounds really, really horrible, try it, try playing a classical bach piece in 13 edo, it sucks. 13 EDO gives us the ability to take a new approach to melody and harmony and start fresh to give something really fun to play around with. Though be warned, it requires a bit of a learning curve to hear it, learn to follow it's odd melodic properties as well as harmonic resolutions. However, I believe it's an amazing tuning if you just give it some love :)

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-&lt;span style="font-size: 13px;"&gt;I began studying and playing with 13 Equal Temperament (13 EDO) after hearing about the wonderful scales it contained. The scales of 13 edo rival that of the diatonic scale in 12 EDO. Most people complain "13 EDO sounds like crap. It's a horrible tuning or at least one that isn't capable of warm, happy music". Playing in 13 Edo for a few days shows this to be a total lie. 13 Equal is an odd creature, it requires vastly different approaches than meantone tunings like 19 or 12 because it lacks a decent perfect fifth. But that's ok, we don't the need the fifth to make nice harmony, the fifth in 13 edo takes on a much different role as a chord extension and isn't considered part of the bass harmony. (More on that in a minute) Not only that, but 13 edo also has a weird fourth which makes it appear to be a bad tuning to a noob. However, I have recorded my ideas on harmony, melody, scales and more on the tuning here.&lt;/span&gt;
+&lt;span style="font-size: 13px;"&gt;I began studying and playing with 13 Equal Temperament ([[13EDO]]) after hearing about the wonderful scales it contained. The scales of 13 edo rival that of the diatonic scale in [[12EDO]]. Most people complain "13 EDO sounds like crap. It's a horrible tuning or at least one that isn't capable of warm, happy music". Playing in 13 Edo for a few days shows this to be a total lie. 13 Equal is an odd creature, it requires vastly different approaches than meantone tunings like 19 or 12 because it lacks a decent perfect fifth. But that's ok, we don't the need the fifth to make nice harmony, the fifth in 13 edo takes on a much different role as a chord extension and isn't considered part of the bass harmony. (More on that in a minute) Not only that, but 13 edo also has a weird fourth which makes it appear to be a bad tuning to a noob. However, I have recorded my ideas on harmony, melody, scales and more on the tuning here.&lt;/span&gt;
 &lt;span style="font-size: 13px;"&gt;I call 13 EDO "The tuning from a parallel universe" It's so vastly unique from 12 EDO and lacks the essentials of western harmony, the perfect fifth and perfect fourth. Although there is a fourth and fifth, they are entirely different beast than the 12 EDO ones, but this is a good thing because the trade off is sounds that have a dreamy like quality as well as other unique sounds. 13 EDO literally sounds like something from another world, it's different and exotic but at the same time, it can be warm and somewhat modal sounding if played right. If played wrong, it can sounds really, really horrible, try it, try playing a classical bach piece in 13 edo, it sucks. 13 EDO gives us the ability to take a new approach to melody and harmony and start fresh to give something really fun to play around with. Though be warned, it requires a bit of a learning curve to hear it, learn to follow it's odd melodic properties as well as harmonic resolutions. However, I believe it's an amazing tuning if you just give it some love :)&lt;/span&gt;
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-&lt;span style="font-size: 13px;"&gt;I began studying and playing with 13 Equal Temperament (13 EDO) after hearing about the wonderful scales it contained. The scales of 13 edo rival that of the diatonic scale in 12 EDO. Most people complain &amp;quot;13 EDO sounds like crap. It's a horrible tuning or at least one that isn't capable of warm, happy music&amp;quot;. Playing in 13 Edo for a few days shows this to be a total lie. 13 Equal is an odd creature, it requires vastly different approaches than meantone tunings like 19 or 12 because it lacks a decent perfect fifth. But that's ok, we don't the need the fifth to make nice harmony, the fifth in 13 edo takes on a much different role as a chord extension and isn't considered part of the bass harmony. (More on that in a minute) Not only that, but 13 edo also has a weird fourth which makes it appear to be a bad tuning to a noob. However, I have recorded my ideas on harmony, melody, scales and more on the tuning here.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
+&lt;span style="font-size: 13px;"&gt;I began studying and playing with 13 Equal Temperament (&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13EDO"&gt;13EDO&lt;/a&gt;) after hearing about the wonderful scales it contained. The scales of 13 edo rival that of the diatonic scale in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12EDO"&gt;12EDO&lt;/a&gt;. Most people complain &amp;quot;13 EDO sounds like crap. It's a horrible tuning or at least one that isn't capable of warm, happy music&amp;quot;. Playing in 13 Edo for a few days shows this to be a total lie. 13 Equal is an odd creature, it requires vastly different approaches than meantone tunings like 19 or 12 because it lacks a decent perfect fifth. But that's ok, we don't the need the fifth to make nice harmony, the fifth in 13 edo takes on a much different role as a chord extension and isn't considered part of the bass harmony. (More on that in a minute) Not only that, but 13 edo also has a weird fourth which makes it appear to be a bad tuning to a noob. However, I have recorded my ideas on harmony, melody, scales and more on the tuning here.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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 &lt;span style="font-size: 13px;"&gt;I call 13 EDO &amp;quot;The tuning from a parallel universe&amp;quot; It's so vastly unique from 12 EDO and lacks the essentials of western harmony, the perfect fifth and perfect fourth. Although there is a fourth and fifth, they are entirely different beast than the 12 EDO ones, but this is a good thing because the trade off is sounds that have a dreamy like quality as well as other unique sounds. 13 EDO literally sounds like something from another world, it's different and exotic but at the same time, it can be warm and somewhat modal sounding if played right. If played wrong, it can sounds really, really horrible, try it, try playing a classical bach piece in 13 edo, it sucks. 13 EDO gives us the ability to take a new approach to melody and harmony and start fresh to give something really fun to play around with. Though be warned, it requires a bit of a learning curve to hear it, learn to follow it's odd melodic properties as well as harmonic resolutions. However, I believe it's an amazing tuning if you just give it some love :)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;