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For "atonal" music it was replaced by the number of 12edo-semitones.
For "atonal" music it was replaced by the number of 12edo-semitones.


Proposal: The **relative interval measure** is the number of steps between two pitches of an [[equal]] tuning.
Proposal: The **relative interval measure** is the number of steps between two pitches of an [[equal]] tuning, sometimes called [[degree]]s (of an edo). For generators, the backslash notation is used d\edo, but it is also a ratio (of a logarithmic measure).


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== Ratio ==
== Ratio ==
Intervals can be measured also giving their [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interval_ratio|(frequency) ratio]]. For instance the major third as [[5_4|5/4]] or the pure Fifth [[3_2|3/2]]. When combining sizes given in ratios, you have to multiply oder divide.
Intervals can be measured also giving their [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interval_ratio|(frequency) ratio]]. For instance the major third as [[5_4|5/4]] or the pure fifth [[3_2|3/2]]. When combining sizes given in ratios, you have to multiply oder divide:
a pure fifth increased by a major third gives the major seventh 3/2*5/4 = 15/8,
which is a diatonic semitone below an octave (2/1)/(15/8) = 2/1*8/15 = 16/15.


Another notation for ratios is a vector of prime factor exponents, often called a [[monzo]], such as |-4 4 -1&gt; (for the syntonic comma, 81/80 = 2^(-4) * 3^4 * 5^(-1)), which builds a bridge back to the logarithmic measure: intervals can be combined by component-wise addition or subtraction of their vectors. </pre></div>
Another notation for ratios is a vector of prime factor exponents, often called a [[monzo]], such as |-4 4 -1&gt; (for the syntonic comma, 81/80 = 2^(-4) * 3^4 * 5^(-1)), which builds a bridge back to the logarithmic measure: intervals can be combined by component-wise addition or subtraction of their vectors. </pre></div>
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For &amp;quot;atonal&amp;quot; music it was replaced by the number of 12edo-semitones.&lt;br /&gt;
For &amp;quot;atonal&amp;quot; music it was replaced by the number of 12edo-semitones.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposal: The &lt;strong&gt;relative interval measure&lt;/strong&gt; is the number of steps between two pitches of an &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/equal"&gt;equal&lt;/a&gt; tuning.&lt;br /&gt;
Proposal: The &lt;strong&gt;relative interval measure&lt;/strong&gt; is the number of steps between two pitches of an &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/equal"&gt;equal&lt;/a&gt; tuning, sometimes called &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/degree"&gt;degree&lt;/a&gt;s (of an edo). For generators, the backslash notation is used d\edo, but it is also a ratio (of a logarithmic measure).&lt;br /&gt;
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Intervals can be measured also giving their &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interval_ratio" rel="nofollow"&gt;(frequency) ratio&lt;/a&gt;. For instance the major third as &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5_4"&gt;5/4&lt;/a&gt; or the pure Fifth &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/3_2"&gt;3/2&lt;/a&gt;. When combining sizes given in ratios, you have to multiply oder divide.&lt;br /&gt;
Intervals can be measured also giving their &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interval_ratio" rel="nofollow"&gt;(frequency) ratio&lt;/a&gt;. For instance the major third as &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5_4"&gt;5/4&lt;/a&gt; or the pure fifth &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/3_2"&gt;3/2&lt;/a&gt;. When combining sizes given in ratios, you have to multiply oder divide: &lt;br /&gt;
a pure fifth increased by a major third gives the major seventh 3/2*5/4 = 15/8,&lt;br /&gt;
which is a diatonic semitone below an octave (2/1)/(15/8) = 2/1*8/15 = 16/15.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another notation for ratios is a vector of prime factor exponents, often called a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt;, such as |-4 4 -1&amp;gt; (for the syntonic comma, 81/80 = 2^(-4) * 3^4 * 5^(-1)), which builds a bridge back to the logarithmic measure: intervals can be combined by component-wise addition or subtraction of their vectors.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
Another notation for ratios is a vector of prime factor exponents, often called a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/monzo"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt;, such as |-4 4 -1&amp;gt; (for the syntonic comma, 81/80 = 2^(-4) * 3^4 * 5^(-1)), which builds a bridge back to the logarithmic measure: intervals can be combined by component-wise addition or subtraction of their vectors.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>