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<span style="display: block; text-align: left;">__**DAWs covered:**__
</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;">
</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;">__**ProTools**__
</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;">__**Reaper**__
</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;">__**Logic Pro**__
</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;">__**GarageBand**__
</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;">__**Ableton Live**__
</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;">__**FL Studio (Fruity Loops)**__
</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;">__**Cubase**__
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</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;">__**ProTools**__ - Midi tracks in ProTools can't contain multiple channels of midi data.
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__**Reaper**__ - No known limitations on midi routing. No internal softsynths.






__**Logic Pro**__ - Logic's built-in instruments are of very high quality. There's a global setting for tuning them, and you can also import a .scl file. But they accept only 12-note-octave-repeating scales with max. +/-100 cent deviations from 12tet pitches. Logic only understands .scl files with this limitation. Logic is also incapable of changing the tuning via midi or automation, and you can only have one tuning per song.






__**GarageBand**__ - won't let you export its midi to any other DAW except Logic Pro. In other words it is a "midi trap".






<span style="display: block; text-align: left;">__**Ableton Live**__ - merges all midi channels in track sends, effect outputs and max4Live outputs into channel 1, and filters out all sysex messages and all polyphonic aftertouch messages.
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<span style="display: block; text-align: left;">__**FL Studio (Fruity Loops)**__ - filters out sysex messages.
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<span style="display: block; text-align: left;">Preliminary study indicates that all synths require only a single instance to be retunable via the pitch bend method!
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[[http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?p=824112]]
(official FL Studio forum, must register to view the full thread)
Excerpted from a July 2013 conversation with "Reflex", a site admin:
user: "The Voyager PlugSE (VST plugin) from Moog... doesn't work [in FL studio]."
Reflex: "VST plugins can send sysex out of FL, but can't receive it."
user: "Yes I guess it also receives Sysex, and so a bidirectional communication can't be established."
Reflex: "Then I don't know of any way to make it work in FL."
user: "Is it planned to add support for VST plugin to send Sysex?"
Reflex: "They already can. But they can't receive them. And that's not planned."
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**__Cubase__** - has a midi insert plug-in for tuning. But it only accepts 12-note-octave-repeating scales with max. +/-100 cent deviations from 12tet pitches. However you can change the tuning in the course of a song, and have multiple tunings simultaneously (on several midi channels). However, the plug-in only works with two or three older VSTi's and not with the new, better instruments that come with Cubase 7, so in effect, it has been discontinued.

Cubase has a pitch key tracking setting for all the synths, and if that's set to .50 you get 24 keys per octave, etc., so various EDOs are possible or can be approximated.

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<html><head><title>DAWs</title></head><body><span style="display: block; text-align: left;"><u><strong>DAWs covered:</strong></u><br />
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</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;"><u><strong>ProTools</strong></u><br />
</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;"><u><strong>Reaper</strong></u><br />
</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;"><u><strong>Logic Pro</strong></u><br />
</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;"><u><strong>GarageBand</strong></u><br />
</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;"><u><strong>Ableton Live</strong></u><br />
</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;"><u><strong>FL Studio (Fruity Loops)</strong></u><br />
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</span><span style="display: block; text-align: left;"><u><strong>ProTools</strong></u> - Midi tracks in ProTools can't contain multiple channels of midi data.<br />
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<u><strong>Reaper</strong></u> - No known limitations on midi routing. No internal softsynths.<br />
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<u><strong>Logic Pro</strong></u> - Logic's built-in instruments are of very high quality. There's a global setting for tuning them, and you can also import a .scl file. But they accept only 12-note-octave-repeating scales with max. +/-100 cent deviations from 12tet pitches. Logic only understands .scl files with this limitation. Logic is also incapable of changing the tuning via midi or automation, and you can only have one tuning per song.<br />
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<u><strong>GarageBand</strong></u> - won't let you export its midi to any other DAW except Logic Pro. In other words it is a &quot;midi trap&quot;.<br />
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<span style="display: block; text-align: left;"><u><strong>Ableton Live</strong></u> - merges all midi channels in track sends, effect outputs and max4Live outputs into channel 1, and filters out all sysex messages and all polyphonic aftertouch messages.<br />
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<span style="display: block; text-align: left;"><u><strong>FL Studio (Fruity Loops)</strong></u> - filters out sysex messages.<br />
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<span style="display: block; text-align: left;">Preliminary study indicates that all synths require only a single instance to be retunable via the pitch bend method!<br />
</span><br />
<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?p=824112" rel="nofollow">http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?p=824112</a><br />
(official FL Studio forum, must register to view the full thread)<br />
Excerpted from a July 2013 conversation with &quot;Reflex&quot;, a site admin:<br />
user: &quot;The Voyager PlugSE (VST plugin) from Moog... doesn't work [in FL studio].&quot;<br />
Reflex: &quot;VST plugins can send sysex out of FL, but can't receive it.&quot;<br />
user: &quot;Yes I guess it also receives Sysex, and so a bidirectional communication can't be established.&quot;<br />
Reflex: &quot;Then I don't know of any way to make it work in FL.&quot;<br />
user: &quot;Is it planned to add support for VST plugin to send Sysex?&quot;<br />
Reflex: &quot;They already can. But they can't receive them. And that's not planned.&quot;<br />
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<strong><u>Cubase</u></strong> - has a midi insert plug-in for tuning. But it only accepts 12-note-octave-repeating scales with max. +/-100 cent deviations from 12tet pitches. However you can change the tuning in the course of a song, and have multiple tunings simultaneously (on several midi channels). However, the plug-in only works with two or three older VSTi's and not with the new, better instruments that come with Cubase 7, so in effect, it has been discontinued.<br />
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Cubase has a pitch key tracking setting for all the synths, and if that's set to .50 you get 24 keys per octave, etc., so various EDOs are possible or can be approximated.</body></html>

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+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; text-align: left;"&gt;__**ProTools**__
+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; text-align: left;"&gt;__**Reaper**__
+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; text-align: left;"&gt;__**Logic Pro**__
+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; text-align: left;"&gt;__**GarageBand**__
+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; text-align: left;"&gt;__**Ableton Live**__
+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; text-align: left;"&gt;__**FL Studio (Fruity Loops)**__
+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; text-align: left;"&gt;__**Cubase**__
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+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="display: block; text-align: left;"&gt;__**ProTools**__ - Midi tracks in ProTools can't contain multiple channels of midi data.
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+__**Reaper**__ - No known limitations on midi routing. No internal softsynths.
+__**Logic Pro**__ - Logic's built-in instruments are of very high quality. There's a global setting for tuning them, and you can also import a .scl file. But they accept only 12-note-octave-repeating scales with max. +/-100 cent deviations from 12tet pitches. Logic only understands .scl files with this limitation. Logic is also incapable of changing the tuning via midi or automation, and you can only have one tuning per song.
+__**GarageBand**__ - won't let you export its midi to any other DAW except Logic Pro. In other words it is a "midi trap".
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-&lt;span style="display: block; text-align: left;"&gt;__**Reaper**__ - No known limitations on midi routing. No internal softsynths.
+**__Cubase__** - has a midi insert plug-in for tuning. But it only accepts 12-note-octave-repeating scales with max. +/-100 cent deviations from 12tet pitches. However you can change the tuning in the course of a song, and have multiple tunings simultaneously (on several midi channels). However, the plug-in only works with two or three older VSTi's and not with the new, better instruments that come with Cubase 7, so in effect, it has been discontinued.
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+&lt;u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Logic Pro&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/u&gt; - Logic's built-in instruments are of very high quality. There's a global setting for tuning them, and you can also import a .scl file. But they accept only 12-note-octave-repeating scales with max. +/-100 cent deviations from 12tet pitches. Logic only understands .scl files with this limitation. Logic is also incapable of changing the tuning via midi or automation, and you can only have one tuning per song.&lt;br /&gt;
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+&lt;u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;GarageBand&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/u&gt; - won't let you export its midi to any other DAW except Logic Pro. In other words it is a &amp;quot;midi trap&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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