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=Definition=  
A **comma** is a small interval that occurs in [[just intonation]], between two intervals which are close in pitch. Commas are always greater than 1 and not a power such as a square or cube of any other interval, and generally in a [[Harmonic Limit|low prime limit]]. The word is often used in reference to [[Regular Temperaments|regular tempering]] when the comma is //[[tempering out|tempered out]]//, which is to say reduced to a unison, by the temperament, thereby equating the intervals separated by that comma. For example the Syntonic or Didymus comma of 81/80, which occurs between 10/9 and 9/8, as well as 81/64 and 5/4, is tempered out by [[Meantone|meantone temperament]]. Commas are usually written as ratios, but they can also be written as monzos. The following lists mostly give both forms, as well as the size in [[cent]]s.
A **comma** is a small interval that occurs in [[just intonation]], between two intervals which are close in pitch. Commas are always greater than 1 and not a power such as a square or cube of any other interval, and generally in a [[Harmonic Limit|low prime limit]]. The word is often used in reference to [[Regular Temperaments|regular tempering]] when the comma is //[[tempering out|tempered out]]//, which is to say reduced to a unison, by the temperament, thereby equating the intervals separated by that comma. For example the Syntonic or Didymus comma of 81/80, which occurs between 10/9 and 9/8, as well as 81/64 and 5/4, is tempered out by [[Meantone|meantone temperament]]. Commas are usually written as ratios, but they can also be written as monzos. The following lists mostly give both forms, as well as the size in [[cent]]s.


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=List of commas, by prime limit=  
=List of commas, by prime limit=  
==3-limit commas==  
==3-limit commas==  
||~ name(s) ||~ ratio ||~ monzo ||~ cents ||
||~ name(s) ||~ ratio ||~ monzo ||~ cents ||
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==5-limit commas==  
==5-limit commas==  
||~ name(s) ||~ ratio ||~ monzo ||~ cents ||
||~ name(s) ||~ ratio ||~ monzo ||~ cents ||
|| Twenty-two thirds limma ||  || | -51 0 22 &gt; || 98.902 ||
|| Twenty-two thirds limma ||  || | -51 0 22 &gt; || 98.902 ||
|| sibbolet ||  || | -58 0 25 &gt; || 57.843 ||
|| sibbolet ||  || | -58 0 25 &gt; || 57.843 ||
|| Hunt 5-cycle comma ||  || | -65 0 28 &gt; || 16.784 ||
|| Hunt 5-cycle comma ||  || | -65 0 28 &gt; || 16.784 ||
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|| titania ||  || | [[tel/2746 -521 -827|2746 -521 -827]] &gt; || 0.003183 ||
|| titania ||  || | [[tel/2746 -521 -827|2746 -521 -827]] &gt; || 0.003183 ||
|| quark ||  || | -537 237 85 &gt; || 0.000884 ||
|| quark ||  || | -537 237 85 &gt; || 0.000884 ||
|| scamp || || |-5836 4293 -417&gt; || 0.000033 ||
|| scamp ||   || |-5836 4293 -417&gt; || 0.000033 ||
|| rover ||  || | 1634 1502 -1729 &gt; || 0.000028 ||
|| rover ||  || | 1634 1502 -1729 &gt; || 0.000028 ||
|| rascal ||  || | -7470 2791 1312 &gt; || 0.000006 ||
|| rascal ||  || | -7470 2791 1312 &gt; || 0.000006 ||
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|| termite || 37252902984619140625000000000 / 37252879910233655318543787489 || | 9 -28 37 -18 &gt; || 0.001072 ||
|| termite || 37252902984619140625000000000 / 37252879910233655318543787489 || | 9 -28 37 -18 &gt; || 0.001072 ||
|| neutrino ||  || | 1889 -2145 138 424 &gt; || 1.636 * 10^-10 ||
|| neutrino ||  || | 1889 -2145 138 424 &gt; || 1.636 * 10^-10 ||


==11-limit commas==  
==11-limit commas==  
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|| animist || 105 / 104 || | -3 1 1 1 0 1 &gt; || 16.567 ||
|| animist || 105 / 104 || | -3 1 1 1 0 1 &gt; || 16.567 ||
|| secorian || 28672 / 28431 || | [[tel/12 -7 0 1 0 -1|12 -7 0 1 0 -1]] &gt; || 14.613 ||
|| secorian || 28672 / 28431 || | [[tel/12 -7 0 1 0 -1|12 -7 0 1 0 -1]] &gt; || 14.613 ||
|| mosaic || 3159 / 3136 || |-6 5 0 -2 0 1&gt; || 12.651 ||
|| mosaic || 3159 / 3136 || |-6 5 0 -2 0 1&gt; || 12.651 ||
|| gassorma || 275 / 273 || | 0 -1 2 -1 1 -1 &gt; || 12.637 ||
|| gassorma || 275 / 273 || | 0 -1 2 -1 1 -1 &gt; || 12.637 ||
|| [[grossma]] || 144 / 143 || | 4 2 0 0 -1 -1 &gt; || 12.064 ||
|| [[grossma]] || 144 / 143 || | 4 2 0 0 -1 -1 &gt; || 12.064 ||
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A &lt;strong&gt;comma&lt;/strong&gt; is a small interval that occurs in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/just%20intonation"&gt;just intonation&lt;/a&gt;, between two intervals which are close in pitch. Commas are always greater than 1 and not a power such as a square or cube of any other interval, and generally in a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Harmonic%20Limit"&gt;low prime limit&lt;/a&gt;. The word is often used in reference to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Regular%20Temperaments"&gt;regular tempering&lt;/a&gt; when the comma is &lt;em&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tempering%20out"&gt;tempered out&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, which is to say reduced to a unison, by the temperament, thereby equating the intervals separated by that comma. For example the Syntonic or Didymus comma of 81/80, which occurs between 10/9 and 9/8, as well as 81/64 and 5/4, is tempered out by &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Meantone"&gt;meantone temperament&lt;/a&gt;. Commas are usually written as ratios, but they can also be written as monzos. The following lists mostly give both forms, as well as the size in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cent&lt;/a&gt;s.&lt;br /&gt;
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  A &lt;strong&gt;comma&lt;/strong&gt; is a small interval that occurs in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/just%20intonation"&gt;just intonation&lt;/a&gt;, between two intervals which are close in pitch. Commas are always greater than 1 and not a power such as a square or cube of any other interval, and generally in a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Harmonic%20Limit"&gt;low prime limit&lt;/a&gt;. The word is often used in reference to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Regular%20Temperaments"&gt;regular tempering&lt;/a&gt; when the comma is &lt;em&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tempering%20out"&gt;tempered out&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, which is to say reduced to a unison, by the temperament, thereby equating the intervals separated by that comma. For example the Syntonic or Didymus comma of 81/80, which occurs between 10/9 and 9/8, as well as 81/64 and 5/4, is tempered out by &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Meantone"&gt;meantone temperament&lt;/a&gt;. Commas are usually written as ratios, but they can also be written as monzos. The following lists mostly give both forms, as well as the size in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cent&lt;/a&gt;s.&lt;br /&gt;
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For commas over 100 cents in size, see &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Large%20commas"&gt;Large commas&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
For commas over 100 cents in size, see &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Large%20commas"&gt;Large commas&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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