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Besides the [[octave]], which is treated as an interval of equivalence in almost all musics globally, the [[perfect fifth]] and [[perfect fourth]] are strongest | Besides the [[octave]], which is treated as an [[interval of equivalence]] in almost all musics globally, the [[perfect fifth]] and [[perfect fourth]] are strongest [[consonance]]s. Reasonable approximations to those intervals that can be found by dividing the octave equally into 5 notes, or into 7 notes, and excellent approximations can be found by dividing the octave equally into 12 notes (corresponding to the system of [[12edo|12-tone equal temperament]] that sees persistent global use today). Given this, along with the limited capacity of human short-term memory, ''pentatonic'' and ''heptatonic'' (5-note and 7-note) scales are extremely common, from antiquity, to, again, almost all musics globally. The heptatonic scale in which the most number of perfect fifths and fourths is called the ''[[diatonic scale]]'', and of all pentatonic or heptatonic scales has seen more application as a basis for music notation and interval names. This article details the development of Western diatonic-based interval names. Where today a small number of competing diatonic-based interval naming schemes exist for the description of microtonal music (music that is not tuned to 12-tone Equal Temperament (12-tET), a critical review of current proposed schemes is also undertaken. | ||
==The origin of diatonic interval names== | == The origin of diatonic interval names == | ||
[[File:Mesopotamian interval names table.jpg|thumb|500x500px|Mesopotamian interval names, from http://www.historyofmusictheory.com/?page_id=130, accessed October 7, 2018.|link=https://en.xen.wiki/w/File:Mesopotamian_interval_names_table.jpg]]Music theory describing the use of heptatonic-diatonic scales, including interval names, has been traced back as far as 2000BC, deciphered from a Sumerian cuneiform tablet from Nippur by Kilmer (1986). From Kummel (1970) we know that 'the names given to the seven tunings/scales were derived from the specific intervals on which the tuning procedure started' (Kilmer, 1986). This formed the basis of their musical notation ([http://www.jstor.org/stable/985853. Kilmer, 2016]). The table to the right following table displays the Ancient Mesopotamian interval names accompanied by their modern names. | [[File:Mesopotamian interval names table.jpg|thumb|500x500px|Mesopotamian interval names, from http://www.historyofmusictheory.com/?page_id=130, accessed October 7, 2018.|link=https://en.xen.wiki/w/File:Mesopotamian_interval_names_table.jpg]]Music theory describing the use of heptatonic-diatonic scales, including interval names, has been traced back as far as 2000BC, deciphered from a Sumerian cuneiform tablet from Nippur by Kilmer (1986). From Kummel (1970) we know that 'the names given to the seven tunings/scales were derived from the specific intervals on which the tuning procedure started' (Kilmer, 1986). This formed the basis of their musical notation ([http://www.jstor.org/stable/985853. Kilmer, 2016]). The table to the right following table displays the Ancient Mesopotamian interval names accompanied by their modern names. | ||
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Such mathematical and musical ideas are attributed to Pythagoras, who undoubtedly made them popular., although many scholars suggest he may have learned these ideas from his Babylonian and Egyptian mentors. Nonetheless, Pythagoras' idea that that by dividing the length of a string into ratios of halves, thirds, quarters and fifths created the musical intervals of an octave, a perfect fifth, an octave again, and a major third form the basis of Ancient Greek music theory (http://www.historyofmusictheory.com/?page_id=20). His tuning of the diatonic scale by only octaves and perfect fifths ([[Pythagorean tuning]]) is influential through to today. | Such mathematical and musical ideas are attributed to Pythagoras, who undoubtedly made them popular., although many scholars suggest he may have learned these ideas from his Babylonian and Egyptian mentors. Nonetheless, Pythagoras' idea that that by dividing the length of a string into ratios of halves, thirds, quarters and fifths created the musical intervals of an octave, a perfect fifth, an octave again, and a major third form the basis of Ancient Greek music theory (http://www.historyofmusictheory.com/?page_id=20). His tuning of the diatonic scale by only octaves and perfect fifths ([[Pythagorean tuning]]) is influential through to today. | ||
==Ancient Greek interval names== | |||
== Ancient Greek interval names == | |||
Intervals in Ancient Greek music were written either as string length ratios, after Pythagoras, or as positions in a [[tetrachord]]. | Intervals in Ancient Greek music were written either as string length ratios, after Pythagoras, or as positions in a [[tetrachord]]. | ||
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The Ancient Greek term ''diatonon'', meaning 'through tones', refers to the genus with two whole tones and a semitone, or any genus in which no interval is greater than one half of the fourth (Chalmers, 1993). The Pythaogrean diatonic scale is the scale that may be built from one two Pythagorean tetrachords, and the left over interval of 9/8. | The Ancient Greek term ''diatonon'', meaning 'through tones', refers to the genus with two whole tones and a semitone, or any genus in which no interval is greater than one half of the fourth (Chalmers, 1993). The Pythaogrean diatonic scale is the scale that may be built from one two Pythagorean tetrachords, and the left over interval of 9/8. | ||
1/1 9/8 5/4 4/3 3/2 5/3 [[15/8]] 2/1 | == Zarlino and meantone == | ||
[[File:Della proprietà del numero Senario & della sue parti; & come in esse si ritroua ogni consonanze musicale, figura 1.png|thumb|566x573px|''Le institutioni harmoniche,'' Zarlino, 1558, Parte Prima, Cap. 15: Della proprietà del numero Senario & della sue parti; & come in esse si ritroua ogni consonanze musicale, figura 1, pg. 25.|link=https://en.xen.wiki/w/File:Della_propriet%C3%A0_del_numero_Senario_&_della_sue_parti;_&_come_in_esse_si_ritroua_ogni_consonanze_musicale,_figura_1.png]] | |||
Intervals were referred to by the Ancient Greek names through the 18th century, as Latin names. By the Renaissance it had been discovered that a Pythagorean diminished fourth sounded sweet, and approximated the string length ratio [[5/4]]. This just tuning for the major third was sought after, along with the complementary [[6/5]] tuning for the minor third, and octave complements to both - [[8/5]] for the minor sixth and [[5/3]] for the major sixth. Influential Italian music theorist and composer Gioseffo Zarlino put forth that choirs tuned the diatonic scale to the tuning built from this tetrachord, the ''[[Zarlino|intense diatonic scale]]'', also known as the ''syntonic or syntonus diatonic scale'' or the ''Ptolemaic sequence'': | |||
1/1 9/8 5/4 4/3 3/2 5/3 [[15/8]] 2/1 | |||
Included in this scale, however, were ''wolf intervals:'' imperfect consonances that occurred as tunings of the same interval as perfect consonances. For example, between 1/1 and 3/2, 4/3 and 1/1, 5/3 and 5/4; and 5/4 and 15/8 occurs the perfect fifth, 3/2, whereas between 9/8 and 5/3 occurs the wolf fifth, [[40/27]], flat of 3/2 by [[81/80]]. This was also the interval by which four 3/2 fifths missed [[5/1]] (the interval two octaves above 5/4). It was named the ''syntonic comma'' after Ptolemy's ''syntonus'' or ''intense diatonic tetrachord'' which consists of the intervals 9/8, [[10/9]] and [[16/15]], where 9/8 and 10/9 differ by this interval. By making the syntonic comma a unison the wolf fifth could be made a perfect fifth. It was discovered that this could be achieved by flattening (tempering) the perfect fifth by some fraction of this comma such that four of these fifths less two octaves gave an approximation of 5/4. Where two fifths less an octave give 9/8, the next two add another 10/9 to result in the 5/4. 9/8 and 10/9 were referred to as the ''major tone'' (''tunono maggiore'') and ''minor tone'' (''tunono minore''), respectively, and where this tuning led to them being equated, it was referred to as Meantone temperament, which is said to 'temper out' the syntonic comma. Zarlino advocated the flattening of the fifth by 2/7 of a comma, leading to [[2-7 Syntonic Comma Meantone|2/7-comma Meantone]], but also described [[1-3 Syntonic Comma Meantone|1/3-comma]] and 1/4-comma Meantone as usable (Zarlino, 1558). | Included in this scale, however, were ''wolf intervals:'' imperfect consonances that occurred as tunings of the same interval as perfect consonances. For example, between 1/1 and 3/2, 4/3 and 1/1, 5/3 and 5/4; and 5/4 and 15/8 occurs the perfect fifth, 3/2, whereas between 9/8 and 5/3 occurs the wolf fifth, [[40/27]], flat of 3/2 by [[81/80]]. This was also the interval by which four 3/2 fifths missed [[5/1]] (the interval two octaves above 5/4). It was named the ''syntonic comma'' after Ptolemy's ''syntonus'' or ''intense diatonic tetrachord'' which consists of the intervals 9/8, [[10/9]] and [[16/15]], where 9/8 and 10/9 differ by this interval. By making the syntonic comma a unison the wolf fifth could be made a perfect fifth. It was discovered that this could be achieved by flattening (tempering) the perfect fifth by some fraction of this comma such that four of these fifths less two octaves gave an approximation of 5/4. Where two fifths less an octave give 9/8, the next two add another 10/9 to result in the 5/4. 9/8 and 10/9 were referred to as the ''major tone'' (''tunono maggiore'') and ''minor tone'' (''tunono minore''), respectively, and where this tuning led to them being equated, it was referred to as Meantone temperament, which is said to 'temper out' the syntonic comma. Zarlino advocated the flattening of the fifth by 2/7 of a comma, leading to [[2-7 Syntonic Comma Meantone|2/7-comma Meantone]], but also described [[1-3 Syntonic Comma Meantone|1/3-comma]] and 1/4-comma Meantone as usable (Zarlino, 1558). | ||
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In the 1691 ''Lettre de Monsieur Huygens à l'Auteur [Henri Basnage de Beauval] touchant le Cycle Harmonique,'' theorist Christiaan Huygens gave names and ratios to common intervals and mapped them to [[31edo|31-tET]], which very closely approximates 1/4-comma Meantone. Translated from French, 3/2 was labelled a Fifth, 4/3 a Fourth, 5/4 a major Third, 6/5 and minor Third, 5/3 a major Sixth and 8/5 a minor Sixth, we can see that these names and definitions match those of Zarlino. | In the 1691 ''Lettre de Monsieur Huygens à l'Auteur [Henri Basnage de Beauval] touchant le Cycle Harmonique,'' theorist Christiaan Huygens gave names and ratios to common intervals and mapped them to [[31edo|31-tET]], which very closely approximates 1/4-comma Meantone. Translated from French, 3/2 was labelled a Fifth, 4/3 a Fourth, 5/4 a major Third, 6/5 and minor Third, 5/3 a major Sixth and 8/5 a minor Sixth, we can see that these names and definitions match those of Zarlino. | ||
==English interval names in the Baroque== | === English interval names in the Baroque === | ||
[[File:Harmonics, or The Philosophy of Musical Sounds, Section 2 figure 3.png|thumb|517x548px|''Harmonics, or The Philosophy of Musical Sounds'', Edition 2, Smith, 1759, Section 2: On the Names and Notation of consonance and their intervals, Fig. 2 & 3, pg. 10|link=https://en.xen.wiki/w/File:Harmonics,_or_The_Philosophy_of_Musical_Sounds,_Section_2_figure_3.png]]We see these names translated into English music theorist and mathematician Robert Smith's 1749 ''Harmonics, or, The Philosophy of Musical Sounds'' (referenced figures shown on the right):<blockquote>Fig. 2. If a musical string ''CO'' and it's parts ''DO'', ''EO'', ''FO'', ''GO'', ''AO'', ''BO'', ''cO'', be in proportion to one another as the numbers 1, 8/9, 4/5, 3/4, 2/3, 3/5, 8/15, 1/2, their vibrations will exhibit the system of 8 sounds which musicians donate by the letters ''C'', ''D'', ''E'', ''F'', ''G'', ''A'', ''B'', ''c''.</blockquote><blockquote>Fig. 3. And supposing those strings to be ranged like ordinates to a right line ''Cc'', and their distances ''CD'', ''DE'', ''EF'', ''FG'', ''GA'', ''AB'', ''BC'', not to be the differences of their lengths, as in fig. 2. but to be the magnitudes proportional to the intervals of their sounds, the received Names of these intervals are shewn in the following Table; and are taken from the numbers of the strings or sounds in each interval inclusively; as a Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, &c, with the epithet of ''major'' or ''minor'', according as the name or number belongs to a greater of smaller total interval; the difference of which results chiefly from the different magnitudes of the major and minor second, called the Tone and Hemitone.</blockquote>In contrast to Zarlino and Huygens, Smith applies the 'major' and 'minor' qualifiers also to fourths and fifths. Where they, like all other intervals of the scale but octaves and unisons, come in two different sizes in the diatonic scale, we can see this is a more consistent scheme. I believe it to be unfortunate that Smith's scheme was not favoured over the names we saw first from Zarlino, which we see still today. | [[File:Harmonics, or The Philosophy of Musical Sounds, Section 2 figure 3.png|thumb|517x548px|''Harmonics, or The Philosophy of Musical Sounds'', Edition 2, Smith, 1759, Section 2: On the Names and Notation of consonance and their intervals, Fig. 2 & 3, pg. 10|link=https://en.xen.wiki/w/File:Harmonics,_or_The_Philosophy_of_Musical_Sounds,_Section_2_figure_3.png]] | ||
We see these names translated into English music theorist and mathematician Robert Smith's 1749 ''Harmonics, or, The Philosophy of Musical Sounds'' (referenced figures shown on the right):<blockquote>Fig. 2. If a musical string ''CO'' and it's parts ''DO'', ''EO'', ''FO'', ''GO'', ''AO'', ''BO'', ''cO'', be in proportion to one another as the numbers 1, 8/9, 4/5, 3/4, 2/3, 3/5, 8/15, 1/2, their vibrations will exhibit the system of 8 sounds which musicians donate by the letters ''C'', ''D'', ''E'', ''F'', ''G'', ''A'', ''B'', ''c''.</blockquote><blockquote>Fig. 3. And supposing those strings to be ranged like ordinates to a right line ''Cc'', and their distances ''CD'', ''DE'', ''EF'', ''FG'', ''GA'', ''AB'', ''BC'', not to be the differences of their lengths, as in fig. 2. but to be the magnitudes proportional to the intervals of their sounds, the received Names of these intervals are shewn in the following Table; and are taken from the numbers of the strings or sounds in each interval inclusively; as a Second, Third, Fourth, Fifth, &c, with the epithet of ''major'' or ''minor'', according as the name or number belongs to a greater of smaller total interval; the difference of which results chiefly from the different magnitudes of the major and minor second, called the Tone and Hemitone.</blockquote>In contrast to Zarlino and Huygens, Smith applies the 'major' and 'minor' qualifiers also to fourths and fifths. Where they, like all other intervals of the scale but octaves and unisons, come in two different sizes in the diatonic scale, we can see this is a more consistent scheme. I believe it to be unfortunate that Smith's scheme was not favoured over the names we saw first from Zarlino, which we see still today. | |||
Smith adds that<blockquote>Any one of the ratios in the third column of the foregoing Table, except 80 to 81, or any one of them compounded once of oftener with the ratio 2 to 1 or 1 to 2, is called a Perfect ratio when reduced to it's least terms. And when the times of the single vibrations of any two sounds have a perfect ratio, the consonance and it's interval too after called Perfect; and is called Imperfect or Tempered when that perfect ratio and interval is a little increased or decreased.</blockquote><blockquote>...</blockquote><blockquote>Any small increment of decrement of a perfect interval is called respectively the Sharp or Flat Temperament of the imperfect consonance, and is measured most conveniently by the proportion it bears to the comma</blockquote>Therefore, in this system 3/2 is the ''Perfect major Fifth'' and 5/4 the ''Perfect major Third''. 81/64 might be labelled a ''comma sharp major Third'', [[32/27]] a ''comma flat minor Third'', and the 1/4-comma Meantone fifth a ''1/4-comma flat major Fifth''. The interval naming scheme Smith describes may be immediately applied to 5-limit microtonal systems. There is an inconsistency, however, where it seems that 9/8 should be called a ''Perfect major Second,'' but that, while [[9/5]] be named a ''comma sharp minor Seventh'', it's inverse, 10/9, is a ''Perfect minor Tone.'' | Smith adds that<blockquote>Any one of the ratios in the third column of the foregoing Table, except 80 to 81, or any one of them compounded once of oftener with the ratio 2 to 1 or 1 to 2, is called a Perfect ratio when reduced to it's least terms. And when the times of the single vibrations of any two sounds have a perfect ratio, the consonance and it's interval too after called Perfect; and is called Imperfect or Tempered when that perfect ratio and interval is a little increased or decreased.</blockquote> | ||
<blockquote>...</blockquote> | |||
<blockquote>Any small increment of decrement of a perfect interval is called respectively the Sharp or Flat Temperament of the imperfect consonance, and is measured most conveniently by the proportion it bears to the comma</blockquote> | |||
Therefore, in this system 3/2 is the ''Perfect major Fifth'' and 5/4 the ''Perfect major Third''. 81/64 might be labelled a ''comma sharp major Third'', [[32/27]] a ''comma flat minor Third'', and the 1/4-comma Meantone fifth a ''1/4-comma flat major Fifth''. The interval naming scheme Smith describes may be immediately applied to 5-limit microtonal systems. There is an inconsistency, however, where it seems that 9/8 should be called a ''Perfect major Second,'' but that, while [[9/5]] be named a ''comma sharp minor Seventh'', it's inverse, 10/9, is a ''Perfect minor Tone.'' | |||
In ''An Elementary Treatise on Musical Intervals and Temperament,'' published in 1876'','' R. H. M Bosanquet refers to 5/4 as the ''perfect third'', and 81/64 as the P''ythagorean third''. Bosanquet also labels other intervals of the Pythagorean diatonic scale similarly, i.e. 256/243, the limma, is labelled the ''Pythagorean semitone'', and [[27/16]] the ''Pythagorean sixth''. 81/80 is labelled the ''ordinary comma'', or simple the ''comma,'' and the Pythagorean comma is defined as the difference between twelve fifths and seven octaves. The apotome of 2187/2048 is referred to as Apatomè Pythagoria. The following relationships are then described: | In ''An Elementary Treatise on Musical Intervals and Temperament,'' published in 1876'','' R. H. M Bosanquet refers to 5/4 as the ''perfect third'', and 81/64 as the P''ythagorean third''. Bosanquet also labels other intervals of the Pythagorean diatonic scale similarly, i.e. 256/243, the limma, is labelled the ''Pythagorean semitone'', and [[27/16]] the ''Pythagorean sixth''. 81/80 is labelled the ''ordinary comma'', or simple the ''comma,'' and the Pythagorean comma is defined as the difference between twelve fifths and seven octaves. The apotome of 2187/2048 is referred to as Apatomè Pythagoria. The following relationships are then described: | ||
Diatonic Semitone = Pythagorean Semitone + Comma | Diatonic Semitone = Pythagorean Semitone + Comma | ||
= Apatomè Pythagoria - Skhisma | = Apatomè Pythagoria - Skhisma | ||
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Pythagorean Semitone = Comma + Skhisma | Pythagorean Semitone = Comma + Skhisma | ||
= Apatomè Pythagoria - Pythagorean Semitone | = Apatomè Pythagoria - Pythagorean Semitone | ||
==Helmholtz and Ellis== | |||
[[File:Helmholtz consonances table.png|thumb|617x469px|link=https://en.xen.wiki/w/File:Helmholtz_consonances_table.png|Table detailing the influence of the different consonances on each other, from ''On the Sensations of Tone as a Psychological Basis for the Theory of Music'', Helmholtz, 1863, Translated by Ellis, 1875, Chap. X, pg. 187.]]Through the investigations of Galileo (1638), Newton, Euler (1729), and Bernoulli (1771), theorist Hermann von Helmholtz was aware that ratios governing the lengths of strings existed also for the vibrations of the tones they produced. His investigation of the harmonic series associated with these ratios of vibration led him to the consideration of ratios above the [[5-limit]]. In his seminal ''On the Sensations of Tone as a Physiological Basis for the Theory of Music'', published in German in 1863 and translated into English in 1875 by Alexander Ellis, he listed just intervals as show in the table to the right. It is interesting to note that 8:9 is labelled a 'Second' rather than a 'major Second'. The minor Seventh is shown as 5:9 rather than as [[16/9|9:16]] seemingly because of the 9 partial limit imposed on the table. It is also worth noting that [[7/5|5:7]] is labelled a subminor Fifth. 'Super', indicated in notation with a '+', raises an interval by [[36/35|35:36]], the septimal quarter tone, and 'sub', indicated with a '-' lowers by the same interval with the exception of the Supersecond [[8/7|7:8]], which lies [[64/63|63:64]], the septimal comma above the Second. The subminor fifth is not included in this as no minor Fifth is shown. If we assume that 'sub' lowers an interval 35:36, then the minor Fifth would be [[25/18|18:25]], 80:81 above Smith's [[64/45|45:64]] minor Fifth, however in table 2 below, Ellis labels 18:25 a ''superfluous Fourth'', and it's inverse, [[32/25|25:32]], an ''acute diminished Fifth'', whilst 64:45 is labelled a ''diminished Fifth'' and its inverse [[45/32|32:45]] a ''false Fourth or Tritone.'' If we label 9:10 as a 'major Second', and 7:8 as a 'supermajor Second' then they differ by 35:36, the major Second is the inverse of the minor Seventh, and the supermajor Second is the octave inverse of the subminor Seventh. We can assume that Smith's 'major Fifth' and 'minor Fourth' names for 3/2 and 4/3 were not wholly taken up. We can add to this table the remaining octave inversions as well as the super Fourth and sub Fifth. | === Helmholtz and Ellis === | ||
[[File:Helmholtz consonances table.png|thumb|617x469px|link=https://en.xen.wiki/w/File:Helmholtz_consonances_table.png|Table detailing the influence of the different consonances on each other, from ''On the Sensations of Tone as a Psychological Basis for the Theory of Music'', Helmholtz, 1863, Translated by Ellis, 1875, Chap. X, pg. 187.]] | |||
Through the investigations of Galileo (1638), Newton, Euler (1729), and Bernoulli (1771), theorist Hermann von Helmholtz was aware that ratios governing the lengths of strings existed also for the vibrations of the tones they produced. His investigation of the harmonic series associated with these ratios of vibration led him to the consideration of ratios above the [[5-limit]]. In his seminal ''On the Sensations of Tone as a Physiological Basis for the Theory of Music'', published in German in 1863 and translated into English in 1875 by Alexander Ellis, he listed just intervals as show in the table to the right. It is interesting to note that 8:9 is labelled a 'Second' rather than a 'major Second'. The minor Seventh is shown as 5:9 rather than as [[16/9|9:16]] seemingly because of the 9 partial limit imposed on the table. It is also worth noting that [[7/5|5:7]] is labelled a subminor Fifth. 'Super', indicated in notation with a '+', raises an interval by [[36/35|35:36]], the septimal quarter tone, and 'sub', indicated with a '-' lowers by the same interval with the exception of the Supersecond [[8/7|7:8]], which lies [[64/63|63:64]], the septimal comma above the Second. The subminor fifth is not included in this as no minor Fifth is shown. If we assume that 'sub' lowers an interval 35:36, then the minor Fifth would be [[25/18|18:25]], 80:81 above Smith's [[64/45|45:64]] minor Fifth, however in table 2 below, Ellis labels 18:25 a ''superfluous Fourth'', and it's inverse, [[32/25|25:32]], an ''acute diminished Fifth'', whilst 64:45 is labelled a ''diminished Fifth'' and its inverse [[45/32|32:45]] a ''false Fourth or Tritone.'' If we label 9:10 as a 'major Second', and 7:8 as a 'supermajor Second' then they differ by 35:36, the major Second is the inverse of the minor Seventh, and the supermajor Second is the octave inverse of the subminor Seventh. We can assume that Smith's 'major Fifth' and 'minor Fourth' names for 3/2 and 4/3 were not wholly taken up. We can add to this table the remaining octave inversions as well as the super Fourth and sub Fifth. | |||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|+Table 1. Additional Intervals | |+Table 1. Additional Intervals | ||
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*The smaller of the two sizes of fourth and the larger of the two sizes of fifth are labelled 'perfect', along with the unison and octave. | *The smaller of the two sizes of fourth and the larger of the two sizes of fifth are labelled 'perfect', along with the unison and octave. | ||
*A perfect interval, when raised a semitone is labelled 'augmented', and when lowered a semitone, 'diminished'. | *A perfect interval, when raised a semitone is labelled 'augmented', and when lowered a semitone, 'diminished'. | ||
==Fokker/ | |||
== Fokker/Keenan extended-diatonic interval-names == | |||
Considering the 11-limit [[Otonality and utonality|otonal]] chord 4:5:6:7:9:11 a chain of thirds, in addition to the familiar major, minor, subminor, supermajor and neutral thirds, Dave Kennan labelled 5:7 a sub-diminished fifth and [[11/7|7:11]] an augmented fifth. 7:10, the inversion of 5:7, is labelled a diminished. 5:7, therefore, is also an augmented fourth. In terms of sevenths, 4:7 is subminor, 5:9 is minor and 11:6 is neutral. | Considering the 11-limit [[Otonality and utonality|otonal]] chord 4:5:6:7:9:11 a chain of thirds, in addition to the familiar major, minor, subminor, supermajor and neutral thirds, Dave Kennan labelled 5:7 a sub-diminished fifth and [[11/7|7:11]] an augmented fifth. 7:10, the inversion of 5:7, is labelled a diminished. 5:7, therefore, is also an augmented fourth. In terms of sevenths, 4:7 is subminor, 5:9 is minor and 11:6 is neutral. | ||
From this, Keenan defines a consistent interval naming system, meaning one which obeys diatonic interval arithmetic (In each column, the parenthesised prefix is the one that is implied when there is no prefix). When adding intervals the indexes are added together to give the index of the resulting interval. Keenan also adds corrections for each interval class to the indexes in order to account for inconsistencies that occur within diatonic interval arithmetic when concerning intervals greater than an octave, so that his system, unlike regular diatonic interval names, may be completely consistent. | From this, [http://www.dkeenan.com/Music/IntervalNaming.htm Keenan defines a consistent interval naming system], meaning one which obeys diatonic interval arithmetic (In each column, the parenthesised prefix is the one that is implied when there is no prefix). When adding intervals the indexes are added together to give the index of the resulting interval. Keenan also adds corrections for each interval class to the indexes in order to account for inconsistencies that occur within diatonic interval arithmetic when concerning intervals greater than an octave, so that his system, unlike regular diatonic interval names, may be completely consistent. | ||
As can be seen above, sub, super, augmented and diminished have also carried inconsistent meaning historically, where in Keenan's system they always alter intervals by the same amount. | As can be seen above, sub, super, augmented and diminished have also carried inconsistent meaning historically, where in Keenan's system they always alter intervals by the same amount. | ||
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|double augmented | |double augmented | ||
|superaugmented | |superaugmented | ||
|}The index values correspond most directly to degrees of 31-tET, whose interval names by this method are given in the following table: | |} | ||
The index values correspond most directly to degrees of 31-tET, whose interval names by this method are given in the following table: | |||
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|+Table 4. Fokker/Keenan Extended-diatonic interval-names in 31-tET | |+Table 4. Fokker/Keenan Extended-diatonic interval-names in 31-tET | ||
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|octave | |octave | ||
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|}The interval names shown in brackets could be said to be 'secondary', the others, 'primary'. | |} | ||
The interval names shown in brackets could be said to be 'secondary', the others, 'primary'. | |||
After releasing his system Keenan was informed that is was identical to the extended-diatonic interval-naming scheme of Adriaan Fokker but for the acknowledgment of more 11-limit ratios.This system depends on the tempering out of 81/80, where the diatonic major third, from four stacked fifths, approximates the just major third, 5/4. It also depends on the existence of neutral intervals, i.e., that the perfect fifth or equivalently, the chromatic semitone, subtends an even number of degrees of the ET. To simply to our familiar naming scheme for 12-tET, we observe that it applies to [[24edo|24-tET]] equally as directly as in 31-tET, where the prefixes correspond to degrees of the ET. Exactly the same is also true for [[38edo|38-tET]], twice [[19edo|19-tET]], a meantone which very closely approximates 1/3-comma Meantone. Meantone temperament wherein the fifth is divided into two equally sized neutral thirds is referred to as neutral temperament. Whereas meantone temperament is generated by the fifth, in neutral temperament the generator is half this interval, the neutral third. Where it was seen above that there are two neutral thirds, 9:11 and 22:27 that differ by 243/242, neutral temperament is at its most simple the temperament defined by this equivalence: the tempering out of 243/242, as meantone is defined by the tempering out of 81/80. The temperament that tempers out both 81/80 and 243/242 is called ''[[Mohajira]]'', upon which Keenan's scheme can be said to be based. As well as 24-tET, 31-tET and 38-tET, Mohajira is supported by [[7edo|7-tET]] and [[17edo|17-tET]]. | After releasing his system Keenan was informed that is was identical to the extended-diatonic interval-naming scheme of Adriaan Fokker but for the acknowledgment of more 11-limit ratios.This system depends on the tempering out of 81/80, where the diatonic major third, from four stacked fifths, approximates the just major third, 5/4. It also depends on the existence of neutral intervals, i.e., that the perfect fifth or equivalently, the chromatic semitone, subtends an even number of degrees of the ET. To simply to our familiar naming scheme for 12-tET, we observe that it applies to [[24edo|24-tET]] equally as directly as in 31-tET, where the prefixes correspond to degrees of the ET. Exactly the same is also true for [[38edo|38-tET]], twice [[19edo|19-tET]], a meantone which very closely approximates 1/3-comma Meantone. Meantone temperament wherein the fifth is divided into two equally sized neutral thirds is referred to as neutral temperament. Whereas meantone temperament is generated by the fifth, in neutral temperament the generator is half this interval, the neutral third. Where it was seen above that there are two neutral thirds, 9:11 and 22:27 that differ by 243/242, neutral temperament is at its most simple the temperament defined by this equivalence: the tempering out of 243/242, as meantone is defined by the tempering out of 81/80. The temperament that tempers out both 81/80 and 243/242 is called ''[[Mohajira]]'', upon which Keenan's scheme can be said to be based. As well as 24-tET, 31-tET and 38-tET, Mohajira is supported by [[7edo|7-tET]] and [[17edo|17-tET]]. | ||
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The modern interval names were built on the assumption of meantone tempering, where the major third built from four fifths is the approximation of 5/4. In non-Meantone tunings, these two definitions of major third, just (or classic) and Pythagorean major thirds no longer correspond. If intervals are to receive unique names then to one or both of these major thirds must be added a prefix. A prefix to a major third might suggest it is not considered the 'true' major third. Keenan has been involved with the development of both types of systems. Only when the major is defined by its mapping as fourth fifths, i.e. 81/64, can conserve interval arithmetic, but that may lead to a scheme that goes against what people believe the intervals to sound like. | The modern interval names were built on the assumption of meantone tempering, where the major third built from four fifths is the approximation of 5/4. In non-Meantone tunings, these two definitions of major third, just (or classic) and Pythagorean major thirds no longer correspond. If intervals are to receive unique names then to one or both of these major thirds must be added a prefix. A prefix to a major third might suggest it is not considered the 'true' major third. Keenan has been involved with the development of both types of systems. Only when the major is defined by its mapping as fourth fifths, i.e. 81/64, can conserve interval arithmetic, but that may lead to a scheme that goes against what people believe the intervals to sound like. | ||
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Keenan later describes how the scheme can be extended to also cover 72-tET and 41-tET. In 31-tET the fifth may divided into six minor seconds. This temperament is called ''Miracle'', and is also supported by [[41edo|41-tET]] and [[72edo|72-tET]]. The first six generators of Miracle give the following intervals: P1 m2 SM2 m3 S4 P5, as can be seen in the table above. 31-tET may be covered by 15 generators downwards and 15 generators upwards from 1:1. In 72-tET, either side of the intervals that that result from these 31 notes, called Miracle[31] 15|15, lie unnamed intervals that may be found first at either 31 or 41 generators further upwards or downwards and in 41-tET, either at 10 or 31 generators. If, one degree of 41 or 72-tET above an interval or Miracle[31] 15|15 lies an unnamed interval that can be first found by an additional 31 generators upwards, it is given the same name as the interval directly below it, with the addition of the prefix 'n', for 'narrow'. Similarly, 'W' for 'wide' prefixes an unnamed interval one degree, 31 generators below. | == Miracle interval naming == | ||
[http://dkeenan.com/Music/Miracle/MiracleIntervalNaming.txt Keenan later describes] how the scheme can be extended to also cover 72-tET and 41-tET. In 31-tET the fifth may divided into six minor seconds. This temperament is called ''Miracle'', and is also supported by [[41edo|41-tET]] and [[72edo|72-tET]]. The first six generators of Miracle give the following intervals: P1 m2 SM2 m3 S4 P5, as can be seen in the table above. 31-tET may be covered by 15 generators downwards and 15 generators upwards from 1:1. In 72-tET, either side of the intervals that that result from these 31 notes, called Miracle[31] 15|15, lie unnamed intervals that may be found first at either 31 or 41 generators further upwards or downwards and in 41-tET, either at 10 or 31 generators. If, one degree of 41 or 72-tET above an interval or Miracle[31] 15|15 lies an unnamed interval that can be first found by an additional 31 generators upwards, it is given the same name as the interval directly below it, with the addition of the prefix 'n', for 'narrow'. Similarly, 'W' for 'wide' prefixes an unnamed interval one degree, 31 generators below. | |||
41-tET: P1 S1 nsm2 sm2 m2 N2 nM2 M2 SM2 sm3 nm3 m3 N3 M3 nSM3 SM3 s4 P4 nS4 S4 A4 d5 s5 Ws5 P5 S5 sm6 Wsm6 m6 N6 M6 Wm6 SM6 sm7 m7 Wm7 N7 M7 SM7 WSM7 s8 P8 | 41-tET: P1 S1 nsm2 sm2 m2 N2 nM2 M2 SM2 sm3 nm3 m3 N3 M3 nSM3 SM3 s4 P4 nS4 S4 A4 d5 s5 Ws5 P5 S5 sm6 Wsm6 m6 N6 M6 Wm6 SM6 sm7 m7 Wm7 N7 M7 SM7 WSM7 s8 P8 | ||
In 41-tET, fourth fifths make a wide major third, rather than a major third, and interval arithmetic is no longer conserved. The same is true for 72-tET, so we are still yet to find a scheme able to conserve interval arithmetic in non-meantone ETs. Though many edos can be covered, many still cannot, including the [[Superpyth|''Superpythagorean'']] edos, where the fifth is sharper than just, and four fifths give an approximation to 7:9, the super major third, tempering out the septimal comma, 63:64. | In 41-tET, fourth fifths make a wide major third, rather than a major third, and interval arithmetic is no longer conserved. The same is true for 72-tET, so we are still yet to find a scheme able to conserve interval arithmetic in non-meantone ETs. Though many edos can be covered, many still cannot, including the [[Superpyth|''Superpythagorean'']] edos, where the fifth is sharper than just, and four fifths give an approximation to 7:9, the super major third, tempering out the septimal comma, 63:64. | ||
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== Sagittal and sagispeak == | |||
[http://forum.sagittal.org/viewforum.php?f=9 Sagispeak], one system which in its naming of meantone and non-meantone edos is able to conserve interval arithmetic was developed initially by [[George Secor]] as a way to pronounce accidentals used in Saggital notation, a generalised diatonic-based notation system applicable equally to just intonation, equal tunings and rank-''n'' [[temperaments]]. With input from Dave Keenan and others, [[Cam Taylor]] extended it for use as an interval naming system. In Saggital, dozens of different accidentals can be used on a regular diatonic [[Staff notation|staff]] to notate up to extremely fine divisions, however in most cases only a handful are needed. In Sagispeak, each accidental is presented by a prefix, made up of a single letter, in most cases, followed by either 'ai' if the accidental raises a note, or 'ao' if it lowers a note. As in HEWM notation, Pythagorean intonation is assumed as a basis. Then prefixes depart from Pythaogrean intonation, altering by commas and introducing other primes. In place of the prefixes 'sub' and 'super', generally signifying an alteration of 36/35 from 5-limit intervals or 64/63 from 3-limit, Sagittal features an accidental of 64/63, which may be used to take a Pythagorean major interval to a supermajor, minor to subminor, or perfect to super or sub. The prefix 'tao' indicates a decrease of 64/63 and the prefix 'tai' an increase. Whereas in previous interval naming schemes 'major' and 'minor' were synonymous with the 5-limit tunings, in Sagispeak they map instead to Pythagorean. A prefix is needed then to take a Pythagorean intoned interval to a 5-limit tuning. Where 5/4 is 81/80 below the Pythagorean third, the prefixes 'pai' and 'pao' (where 'p' is for 'pental', as in, involving prime 5), which raise or lower a note by 81/80 respectively. Similarly, 'vai' and 'vao', which raise or lower a note by 33/32 respectively, leading to ratios of 11. | |||
Because it is built off of the diatonic scale, Sagispeak conserves diatonic interval arithmetic, i.e. familiar relations in the diatonic scale, i.e. M2 + m3 = P4. As in Fokker/Keenan Extended-diatonic Interval-names, diatonic interval arithmetic is also extended, where, for example, tai-major 2 + tao-minor 3 = P4 (8/7 + 7/6 = 4/3), where opposite alterations cancel each other out, and diatonic interval arithmetic is conserved, a very useful property for a microtonal interval naming system to possess. Another helpful property of Sagispeak is its generalised applicability to edos, just intonation and other tunings, where the same intervals maintain their spelling across different tunings. Despite these benefits however, many see Sagittal and Sagispeak as overly complex (even though the entire extended system need hardly ever be applied), and requiring too many new terms to be learnt. It is also worth noting that since 5/4 is in his system referred to as a pao-M3, and the major third, in systems with sharper fifth particularly, may be fairly sharp of this familiar tuning for a major third, intervals names may no longer correspond to what they 'sound like'. In superpythagorean systems, for example, the major third approximates 9/7, which is familiar from meantone-based naming as a super major third. This is true of any scheme in which the major third is defined by its generation from fifths. On the other hand, any scheme in which the major third is defined instead as an approximation to 5/4 does not preserve interval arithmetic in non-meantone systems, but may conserve existing associations between interval names and sound / size. | Because it is built off of the diatonic scale, Sagispeak conserves diatonic interval arithmetic, i.e. familiar relations in the diatonic scale, i.e. M2 + m3 = P4. As in Fokker/Keenan Extended-diatonic Interval-names, diatonic interval arithmetic is also extended, where, for example, tai-major 2 + tao-minor 3 = P4 (8/7 + 7/6 = 4/3), where opposite alterations cancel each other out, and diatonic interval arithmetic is conserved, a very useful property for a microtonal interval naming system to possess. Another helpful property of Sagispeak is its generalised applicability to edos, just intonation and other tunings, where the same intervals maintain their spelling across different tunings. Despite these benefits however, many see Sagittal and Sagispeak as overly complex (even though the entire extended system need hardly ever be applied), and requiring too many new terms to be learnt. It is also worth noting that since 5/4 is in his system referred to as a pao-M3, and the major third, in systems with sharper fifth particularly, may be fairly sharp of this familiar tuning for a major third, intervals names may no longer correspond to what they 'sound like'. In superpythagorean systems, for example, the major third approximates 9/7, which is familiar from meantone-based naming as a super major third. This is true of any scheme in which the major third is defined by its generation from fifths. On the other hand, any scheme in which the major third is defined instead as an approximation to 5/4 does not preserve interval arithmetic in non-meantone systems, but may conserve existing associations between interval names and sound / size. | ||
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31-tET: P1 tai-1/vai-1 tao-m2 m2 vai-m2/vao-M2 M2 tai-M2 tao-m3 m3 vai-m3/vao-M3 M3 tai-M3 tao-4 P4 vai-4 A4 d5 vao-5 P5 tai-5 tao-m6 m6 vai-m6/vao-M6 M6 tai-M6 tao-m7 m7 vai-m7.vao-M7 M7 tai-M7 vao-8/tao-8 P8 | 31-tET: P1 tai-1/vai-1 tao-m2 m2 vai-m2/vao-M2 M2 tai-M2 tao-m3 m3 vai-m3/vao-M3 M3 tai-M3 tao-4 P4 vai-4 A4 d5 vao-5 P5 tai-5 tao-m6 m6 vai-m6/vao-M6 M6 tai-M6 tao-m7 m7 vai-m7.vao-M7 M7 tai-M7 vao-8/tao-8 P8 | ||
==Dave Keenan's most recent system== | |||
[[File:Dave Keenan edo interval names prefix diagram.png|thumb|434x581px|Prefix diagram from ''One way to name the interval of any EDO from 5 to 72'', Keenan, 2016, pg. 4.|link=https://en.xen.wiki/w/File:Dave_Keenan_edo_interval_names_prefix_diagram.png]]In 2016 Dave Keenan proposed an alternative generalised [http://dkeenan.com/Music/EdoIntervalNames.pdf microtonal interval naming system for edos]. In what might be understood as a generalisation of his extended-diatonic interval-naming system described above onto any equal tuning. Employing as prefixes the familiar 'sub', 'super', and 'neutral'. His scheme is based on the diatonic scale, however the diatonic interval names are not defined by their position in a cycle of fifths like is Sagispeak. In Keenan's system the ET's best 3/2 is first labelled P5, and the fourth P4. The interval half-way between the tonic and fifth is labelled the neutral third, or 'N3', and halfway between the fourth and the octave N6. Then the interval a perfect fifth larger than N3 is labelled N7, and the interval a fifth smaller than N6 labelled N2. The neutral intervals then lie either at a step of the ET, or between two steps. After this the remaining interval names are decided based on the distance they lie in pitch from the 7 labelled intervals, which make up the ''Neutral scale'', P1 N2 N3 P4 P5 N6 N7, which, like the diatonic, is an MOS scale, which may be labelled [[Neutral7|Neutral[7]]] 3|3 using [[Modal UDP Notation|Modal UDP notation]]. This results in the conservation of symmetry about the tetrachord and the octave, and the symmetry of 3rds in a fifth. The interval arithmetic associated with these symmetries which may be summarised by the rule 'x + y = Pz and x + Pz = y where x and y are both perfect, both major/minor, or both dim/aug', is also conserved. To name an interval in an ET, the number of steps of 72-tET that most closely approximate the size of the interval difference from a note of the neutral scale is first found. Then the prefix corresponding to that number of steps of 72-tET is applied to the interval name. The diagram to the right details this process. An interval just smaller than a major third in Keenan's system is labelled a ''narrow major third'', and an interval just wider than a 6/5 minor third a ''wide minor third'', however he notes that 'narrow' and 'wide' are only necessary in edos greater than 31. This system is equivalent to the Fokker/Keenan Extended-diatonic interval-naming system and Miracle interval naming when applied to any of the ETs they were able to cover. In application to ETs whose best fifth lies outside of the ''regular diatonic range'' (between 4 degrees of 7-tET, and 3 degrees of 5-tET) | == Dave Keenan's most recent system == | ||
[[File:Dave Keenan edo interval names prefix diagram.png|thumb|434x581px|Prefix diagram from ''One way to name the interval of any EDO from 5 to 72'', Keenan, 2016, pg. 4.|link=https://en.xen.wiki/w/File:Dave_Keenan_edo_interval_names_prefix_diagram.png]] | |||
In 2016 Dave Keenan proposed an alternative generalised [http://dkeenan.com/Music/EdoIntervalNames.pdf microtonal interval naming system for edos]. In what might be understood as a generalisation of his extended-diatonic interval-naming system described above onto any equal tuning. Employing as prefixes the familiar 'sub', 'super', and 'neutral'. His scheme is based on the diatonic scale, however the diatonic interval names are not defined by their position in a cycle of fifths like is Sagispeak. In Keenan's system the ET's best 3/2 is first labelled P5, and the fourth P4. The interval half-way between the tonic and fifth is labelled the neutral third, or 'N3', and halfway between the fourth and the octave N6. Then the interval a perfect fifth larger than N3 is labelled N7, and the interval a fifth smaller than N6 labelled N2. The neutral intervals then lie either at a step of the ET, or between two steps. After this the remaining interval names are decided based on the distance they lie in pitch from the 7 labelled intervals, which make up the ''Neutral scale'', P1 N2 N3 P4 P5 N6 N7, which, like the diatonic, is an MOS scale, which may be labelled [[Neutral7|Neutral[7]]] 3|3 using [[Modal UDP Notation|Modal UDP notation]]. This results in the conservation of symmetry about the tetrachord and the octave, and the symmetry of 3rds in a fifth. The interval arithmetic associated with these symmetries which may be summarised by the rule 'x + y = Pz and x + Pz = y where x and y are both perfect, both major/minor, or both dim/aug', is also conserved. To name an interval in an ET, the number of steps of 72-tET that most closely approximate the size of the interval difference from a note of the neutral scale is first found. Then the prefix corresponding to that number of steps of 72-tET is applied to the interval name. The diagram to the right details this process. An interval just smaller than a major third in Keenan's system is labelled a ''narrow major third'', and an interval just wider than a 6/5 minor third a ''wide minor third'', however he notes that 'narrow' and 'wide' are only necessary in edos greater than 31. This system is equivalent to the Fokker/Keenan Extended-diatonic interval-naming system and Miracle interval naming when applied to any of the ETs they were able to cover. In application to ETs whose best fifth lies outside of the ''regular diatonic range'' (between 4 degrees of 7-tET, and 3 degrees of 5-tET) | |||
Keenan's system is an elegant way to keep the 'major 3rd' label for 5/4 in application to non-meantone edos, while conserving interval arithmetic that results from symmetry about the tetrachord and the octave. However, much interval arithmetic remains unconserved in non-meantone ETs. A potentially undesirable result of the system is that the major second approximates 10/9, and a ''wide major second'' 9/8, where as 9/8 is almost always considered a major second, and 10/9 often a narrow or small major second. One such system that considers 10/9 a narrow major second is that of Aaron Hunt. | Keenan's system is an elegant way to keep the 'major 3rd' label for 5/4 in application to non-meantone edos, while conserving interval arithmetic that results from symmetry about the tetrachord and the octave. However, much interval arithmetic remains unconserved in non-meantone ETs. A potentially undesirable result of the system is that the major second approximates 10/9, and a ''wide major second'' 9/8, where as 9/8 is almost always considered a major second, and 10/9 often a narrow or small major second. One such system that considers 10/9 a narrow major second is that of Aaron Hunt. | ||
==Size-based systems== | |||
== Size-based systems == | |||
Microtonal theorist [[Aaron Andrew Hunt]] devised [http://musictheory.zentral.zone/huntsystem4.html the Hunt system], which includes interval name assignments for JI (just intonation) and edos based on [[41edo]]. Compared to Keenan's 72 interval names, Aaron's system includes 41. His system is based directly on 41-tET, and unlike Keenan's system, interval are given the name of the closest step of 41-tET, and no account is taken of the size of the edos fifth. In 41-tET, Major, minor, augmented and diminished intervals are those obtained through the approximately Pythagorean cycle of fifths. Intervals one step of 41-tET above these are given the prefix 'small', one step larger are given the prefix 'large', two steps smaller the prefix 'narrow' and two larger the prefix 'wide'. As a result, 5/4 is labelled a 'small major 3rd', or SM3 (not to be confused with a super major third, a label that does not exist in this system). | Microtonal theorist [[Aaron Andrew Hunt]] devised [http://musictheory.zentral.zone/huntsystem4.html the Hunt system], which includes interval name assignments for JI (just intonation) and edos based on [[41edo]]. Compared to Keenan's 72 interval names, Aaron's system includes 41. His system is based directly on 41-tET, and unlike Keenan's system, interval are given the name of the closest step of 41-tET, and no account is taken of the size of the edos fifth. In 41-tET, Major, minor, augmented and diminished intervals are those obtained through the approximately Pythagorean cycle of fifths. Intervals one step of 41-tET above these are given the prefix 'small', one step larger are given the prefix 'large', two steps smaller the prefix 'narrow' and two larger the prefix 'wide'. As a result, 5/4 is labelled a 'small major 3rd', or SM3 (not to be confused with a super major third, a label that does not exist in this system). | ||
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In Hunt's system when used in 41-tET or JI diatonic interval arithmetic is conserved, but in other tunings it may not be, and Margo's system may not conserve diatonic interval arithmetic either. Both systems may be applied to arbitrary tunings, but the same intervals (defined, perhaps by a MOS scale) may not be given the same interval names across different tunings. [[User:PiotrGrochowski/Extra-Diatonic Intervals|Other]] size-based systems also exist, but are less thoroughly described and less well known. In all these systems, interval arithmetic is not conserved across all tunings. | In Hunt's system when used in 41-tET or JI diatonic interval arithmetic is conserved, but in other tunings it may not be, and Margo's system may not conserve diatonic interval arithmetic either. Both systems may be applied to arbitrary tunings, but the same intervals (defined, perhaps by a MOS scale) may not be given the same interval names across different tunings. [[User:PiotrGrochowski/Extra-Diatonic Intervals|Other]] size-based systems also exist, but are less thoroughly described and less well known. In all these systems, interval arithmetic is not conserved across all tunings. | ||
==Ups and Downs== | |||
== Ups and Downs == | |||
One final interval naming system, associated with the [[Ups and Downs Notation]] system, belonging to microtonal theorist and musician [[KiteGiedraitis|Kite Giedraitis]], like Sagittal is based on deviations from pythagorean intervals. In this system however, deviations (from major, minor, perfect, augmented and diminished) are notated simply by the addition of up or down arrows: '^' or 'v', corresponding to raising or lowering of a single step of an edo. In some tunings ([[12edo|12-tET]], 19-tET or 31-tET for example) 5/4 may be a M3, and in others a vM3 (downmajor 3rd) (e.g. [[15edo|15-tET]], [[22edo|22-tET]], 41-tET, 72-tET), or even an up-major 3rd (e.g. [[21edo|21-tET]]). Ups and downs also includes neutrals, which lay exactly in-between major and minor intervals of the same degree, labelled '~' (mid). The mid-4th ~4 is halfway between P4 and A4, and ~5 is likewise half-way diminished. 'Up' and 'down' prefixes may be used before mid also, e.g. 'v~ 3' in 72-tET. P1, P4, P5 and P8 when upped or downed (or midded, in the case of P4 and P5) are simply labelled '1', '4', '5' and '8'. This system benefits from its simplicity as well as its conservation of interval arithmetic. The latter makes possible the naming of chords, e.g. downminor 7th. Rank-2 temperaments may also be described, with the possible addition of an additional pair of qualifiers, lifts and drops - '/' and '\'. A rank-2 scale, such as a MOS scale may appear different than this rank-2 notation when approximated in an equal (rank-1) tuning. Another criticism of Kite's system that does not apply to the others is the fact that when an edo is doubled or multiplied by some simple fraction, and the best fifth is constant across the two edos, the same intervals may be given different names. | One final interval naming system, associated with the [[Ups and Downs Notation]] system, belonging to microtonal theorist and musician [[KiteGiedraitis|Kite Giedraitis]], like Sagittal is based on deviations from pythagorean intervals. In this system however, deviations (from major, minor, perfect, augmented and diminished) are notated simply by the addition of up or down arrows: '^' or 'v', corresponding to raising or lowering of a single step of an edo. In some tunings ([[12edo|12-tET]], 19-tET or 31-tET for example) 5/4 may be a M3, and in others a vM3 (downmajor 3rd) (e.g. [[15edo|15-tET]], [[22edo|22-tET]], 41-tET, 72-tET), or even an up-major 3rd (e.g. [[21edo|21-tET]]). Ups and downs also includes neutrals, which lay exactly in-between major and minor intervals of the same degree, labelled '~' (mid). The mid-4th ~4 is halfway between P4 and A4, and ~5 is likewise half-way diminished. 'Up' and 'down' prefixes may be used before mid also, e.g. 'v~ 3' in 72-tET. P1, P4, P5 and P8 when upped or downed (or midded, in the case of P4 and P5) are simply labelled '1', '4', '5' and '8'. This system benefits from its simplicity as well as its conservation of interval arithmetic. The latter makes possible the naming of chords, e.g. downminor 7th. Rank-2 temperaments may also be described, with the possible addition of an additional pair of qualifiers, lifts and drops - '/' and '\'. A rank-2 scale, such as a MOS scale may appear different than this rank-2 notation when approximated in an equal (rank-1) tuning. Another criticism of Kite's system that does not apply to the others is the fact that when an edo is doubled or multiplied by some simple fraction, and the best fifth is constant across the two edos, the same intervals may be given different names. | ||
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In Jones' relabeling 31edo appears as in Fokker/Keenan Extended-diatonic Interval-names. | In Jones' relabeling 31edo appears as in Fokker/Keenan Extended-diatonic Interval-names. | ||
== | == SHEFKHED interval names == | ||
{{Main| SHEFKHED interval names }} | |||
This review was both motivated by, and has been integral to, the development of the author's own interval naming scheme. SHEFKHED Interval names, or ''Smith/Helmholtz/Ellis/Fokker/Keenan/Hearne Extended-diatonic interval names'', are essentially an extension of Fokker/Keenan Extended-diatonic interval-names, with a nod to Smith, Helmholtz and Ellis, redesigned with Pythagorean intonation at the core, from Sagittal/Sagispeak, where prefixes correspond to alteration by specific commas, into non-meantone edos, keeping interval arithmetic conserved. 'S' and 's', for 'super' and 'sub' suggest alteration by 64/63, and for seconds, thirds, sixths and sevenths, sub and super intervals remain the same as they have been since Helmholtz/Ellis. Similarly, 'C' and 'c' suggest alteration by 81/80. For perfect intervals 'C' and 'c' are short for 'comma-wide' and 'comma-narrow' respectively, derivative of part of Smith's interval naming scheme, and for all other intervals they are short for 'classic', after Keenan's use of the word. In this way the 5/4 major third in non-meantone system receives a label that is still suggestive of it being a familiar major third. | This review was both motivated by, and has been integral to, the development of the author's own interval naming scheme. SHEFKHED Interval names, or ''Smith/Helmholtz/Ellis/Fokker/Keenan/Hearne Extended-diatonic interval names'', are essentially an extension of Fokker/Keenan Extended-diatonic interval-names, with a nod to Smith, Helmholtz and Ellis, redesigned with Pythagorean intonation at the core, from Sagittal/Sagispeak, where prefixes correspond to alteration by specific commas, into non-meantone edos, keeping interval arithmetic conserved. 'S' and 's', for 'super' and 'sub' suggest alteration by 64/63, and for seconds, thirds, sixths and sevenths, sub and super intervals remain the same as they have been since Helmholtz/Ellis. Similarly, 'C' and 'c' suggest alteration by 81/80. For perfect intervals 'C' and 'c' are short for 'comma-wide' and 'comma-narrow' respectively, derivative of part of Smith's interval naming scheme, and for all other intervals they are short for 'classic', after Keenan's use of the word. In this way the 5/4 major third in non-meantone system receives a label that is still suggestive of it being a familiar major third. | ||
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53-tET: P1 C1/S1 1-2 sm2 m2 Cm2 SCm2 scM2 sM2 M2 SM2 2-3 sm3 m3 Cm3 SCm3 scM3 cM3 M3 SM3 3-4 s4 P4 C4 SC4 scA4 cA4 Cd5 SCd5 SA4/sc5 c5 P5 S5 5-6 sm6 m6 Cm6 SCm6 scM6 sM6 M6 SM6 6-7 sm7 m7 Cm7 SCm7 scM7 cM7 M7 SM7 7-8 c8/s8 P8 | 53-tET: P1 C1/S1 1-2 sm2 m2 Cm2 SCm2 scM2 sM2 M2 SM2 2-3 sm3 m3 Cm3 SCm3 scM3 cM3 M3 SM3 3-4 s4 P4 C4 SC4 scA4 cA4 Cd5 SCd5 SA4/sc5 c5 P5 S5 5-6 sm6 m6 Cm6 SCm6 scM6 sM6 M6 SM6 6-7 sm7 m7 Cm7 SCm7 scM7 cM7 M7 SM7 7-8 c8/s8 P8 | ||
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