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Another way of looking at 8-EDO is to treat a chord of 0-1-2-3-4 degrees (0-150-300-450-600 cents) as approximating harmonics 10:11:12:13:14 (~0-165-316-454-583 cents), which is not too implausible if you can buy that 12-EDO is a 5-limit temperament. This interpretation would imply that 121/120, 144/143, 169/168, and hence also 36/35 and 66/65, are tempered out. | Another way of looking at 8-EDO is to treat a chord of 0-1-2-3-4 degrees (0-150-300-450-600 cents) as approximating harmonics 10:11:12:13:14 (~0-165-316-454-583 cents), which is not too implausible if you can buy that 12-EDO is a 5-limit temperament. This interpretation would imply that 121/120, 144/143, 169/168, and hence also 36/35 and 66/65, are tempered out. | ||
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8-edo can be notated as a subset of 24-edo, using [[Ups_and_Downs_Notation|ups and downs]]. It can also be notated as a subset of 16-edo, but this is a less intuitive notation. | 8-edo can be notated as a subset of 24-edo, using [[Ups_and_Downs_Notation|ups and downs]]. It can also be notated as a subset of 16-edo, but this is a less intuitive notation. | ||
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8-edo chords are very ambiguous, with many chord homonyms. Even the major and minor triads are homonyms. Chord components usually default to M2, M3, P4, P5, M6, m7, M9, P11 and M13. Thus D7 has a M3, P5 and m7. 8-edo chord names using 24-edo subset names are greatly simplified by using different defaults: ~2, ^M3, v4, ^5, M6, ~7, ~9, v11 and M13. Thus D7 becomes ^M3, ^5 and ~7 | This is a heptatonic notation generated by 5ths (5th meaning 3/2). Alternative notations include pentatonic 5th-generated, octotonic, and heptatonic 2nd-generated. | ||
'''<u>Pentatonic 5th-generated</u>: D * E G * A C * D''' (generator = 5\8 = perfect 5thoid) | |||
D - D#/Eb - E - G - G#/Ab - A - C - C#/Db - D | |||
P1 - A1/ms3 - Ms3 - P4d - A4d/d5d - P5d - ms7 - Ms7/d8d - P8d (s = sub-, d = -oid) | |||
pentatonic genchain of 5ths: ...Cb - Gb - Db - Ab - Eb - C - G - D - A - E - C# - G# - D# - A# - E#... | |||
pentatonic genchain of 5ths: ...d8d - d5d - ms3 - ms7 - P4d - P1 - P5d - Ms3 - Ms7 - A4d - A1... (s = sub-, d = -oid) | |||
'''<u>Octatonic:</u>''' '''A B C D E F G H A''' (every interval is a generator) | |||
P1 - P2 - P3 - P4 - P5 - P6 - P7 - P8 - P9 | |||
'''<u>Heptatonic 2nd-generated</u>: D E F G * A B C D''' (generator = 1\8 = perfect 2nd = 150¢) | |||
D - E - F - G - G#/Ab - A -B - C - D | |||
P1 - P2 - m3 - M3/m4 - M4/m5 - M5/m6 - M6 - P7 - P8 | |||
genchain of 2nds: ...D# - E# - F# - G# - A - B - C - D - E - F - G - Ab - Bb - Cb - Db... | |||
genchain of 2nds: ...A1 - A2 - M3 - M4 - M5 - M6 - P7 - P1 - P2 - m3 - m4 - m5 - m6 - d7 - d8... | |||
== Chord Names == | |||
8-edo chords are very ambiguous, with many chord homonyms. Even the major and minor triads are homonyms. Chord components usually default to M2, M3, P4, P5, M6, m7, M9, P11 and M13. Thus D7 has a M3, P5 and m7. 8-edo chord names using 24-edo subset names are greatly simplified by using different defaults: ~2, ^M3, v4, ^5, M6, ~7, ~9, v11 and M13. Thus D7 becomes ^M3, ^5 and ~7 | |||
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! | Chord edosteps | ! | Chord edosteps | ||
! | Chord notes | ! | Chord notes | ||
! | | ! | Full name | ||
! | Abbreviated name | ! | Abbreviated name | ||
! | Homonyms | ! | Homonyms | ||
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=Commas= | =JI Intervals= | ||
8 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes val < 8 13 19 22 28 30 |). | [[File:8ed2-001.svg|alt=alt : Your browser has no SVG support.]] | ||
[[:File:8ed2-001.svg|8ed2-001.svg]] | |||
= Commas = | |||
8 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes val < 8 13 19 22 28 30 |). | |||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
! style="text-align:center;" |[[Ratio]] | |||
! style="text-align:center;" |[[Monzo]] | |||
! style="text-align:center;" |Cents | |||
! style="text-align:center;" |[[Color notation/Temperament Names|Color Name]] | |||
! style="text-align:center;" |Name 1 | |||
! style="text-align:center;" |Name 2 | |||
! style="text-align:center;" |Name 3 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | 648/625 | | style="text-align:center;" | 648/625 | ||
| |<nowiki> | 3 4 -4 </nowiki>> | | |<nowiki> | 3 4 -4 </nowiki>> | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 62.57 | | style="text-align:right;" | 62.57 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" |Quadgu | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | Major Diesis | | style="text-align:center;" | Major Diesis | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Diminished Comma | | style="text-align:center;" | Diminished Comma | ||
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| |<nowiki> | 1 -5 3 </nowiki>> | | |<nowiki> | 1 -5 3 </nowiki>> | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 49.17 | | style="text-align:right;" | 49.17 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" |Triyo | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | Maximal Diesis | | style="text-align:center;" | Maximal Diesis | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Porcupine Comma | | style="text-align:center;" | Porcupine Comma | ||
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| |<nowiki> | 2 9 -7 </nowiki>> | | |<nowiki> | 2 9 -7 </nowiki>> | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 13.40 | | style="text-align:right;" | 13.40 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" |Sepgu | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | Medium Semi Comma | | style="text-align:center;" | Medium Semi Comma | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Sensipent Comma | | style="text-align:center;" | Sensipent Comma | ||
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| |<nowiki> | 6 -2 0 -1 </nowiki>> | | |<nowiki> | 6 -2 0 -1 </nowiki>> | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 27.26 | | style="text-align:right;" | 27.26 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" |Ru | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | Septimal Comma | | style="text-align:center;" | Septimal Comma | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | Archytas' Comma | | style="text-align:center;" | Archytas' Comma | ||
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| |<nowiki> | -5 -3 3 1 </nowiki>> | | |<nowiki> | -5 -3 3 1 </nowiki>> | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 21.90 | | style="text-align:right;" | 21.90 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" |Zotriyo | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | Keema | | style="text-align:center;" | Keema | ||
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| |<nowiki> | -9 8 -4 2 </nowiki>> | | |<nowiki> | -9 8 -4 2 </nowiki>> | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 8.04 | | style="text-align:right;" | 8.04 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" |Labizogugu | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | Varun Isma | | style="text-align:center;" | Varun Isma | ||
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| |<nowiki> | 11 1 -3 -2 </nowiki>> | | |<nowiki> | 11 1 -3 -2 </nowiki>> | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 5.36 | | style="text-align:right;" | 5.36 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" |Sarurutrigu | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | Cornwell | | style="text-align:center;" | Cornwell | ||
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| |<nowiki> | 2 -2 2 0 -1 </nowiki>> | | |<nowiki> | 2 -2 2 0 -1 </nowiki>> | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 17.40 | | style="text-align:right;" | 17.40 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" |Luyoyo | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | Ptolemies | | style="text-align:center;" | Ptolemies | ||
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| |<nowiki> | -3 -1 -1 0 2 </nowiki>> | | |<nowiki> | -3 -1 -1 0 2 </nowiki>> | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 14.37 | | style="text-align:right;" | 14.37 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" |Lologu | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | Batista | | style="text-align:center;" | Batista | ||
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| |<nowiki> | 4 0 -2 -1 1 </nowiki>> | | |<nowiki> | 4 0 -2 -1 1 </nowiki>> | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 9.86 | | style="text-align:right;" | 9.86 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" |Lorugugu | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | Valinor Mo | | style="text-align:center;" | Valinor Mo | ||
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| |<nowiki> | 16 0 0 -2 -3 </nowiki>> | | |<nowiki> | 16 0 0 -2 -3 </nowiki>> | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 8.39 | | style="text-align:right;" | 8.39 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" |Satrilu-aruru | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | Organisms | | style="text-align:center;" | Organisms | ||
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| |<nowiki> | -7 -1 1 1 1 </nowiki>> | | |<nowiki> | -7 -1 1 1 1 </nowiki>> | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 4.50 | | style="text-align:right;" | 4.50 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" |Lozoyo | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | Keenanisma | | style="text-align:center;" | Keenanisma | ||
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| |<nowiki> | 5 -1 3 0 -3 </nowiki>> | | |<nowiki> | 5 -1 3 0 -3 </nowiki>> | ||
| style="text-align:right;" | 3.03 | | style="text-align:right;" | 3.03 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" |Triluyo | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | Wizard Harry | | style="text-align:center;" | Wizard Harry | ||
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