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!Ups and downs
!Ups and downs
!Gareth's Go
!Gareth's Go
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!Represented Ratios
!Represented Ratios
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|P1
|P1
|P1
|P1
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|1/1
|1/1
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|^1, d2
|^1, d2
|m2
|m2
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|64/63, 81/80
|64/63, 81/80
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|vA1, ^d2
|vA1, ^d2
|M2
|M2
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|11/10, 12/11, 10/9
|11/10, 12/11, 10/9
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|vm2
|vm2
|Serd*
|Serd*
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|8/7, 7/6, 9/8
|8/7, 7/6, 9/8
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|m2
|m2
|m3
|m3
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|17/16, 16/15, 15/14
|17/16, 16/15, 15/14
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|^m2
|^m2
|M3
|M3
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|12/11, 13/12, 14/13
|12/11, 13/12, 14/13
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|vM2
|vM2
|P4
|P4
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|11/10
|11/10
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|M2
|M2
|A4
|A4
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|9/8, 10/9
|9/8, 10/9
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|^M2
|^M2
|d5
|d5
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|8/7
|8/7
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|vA2, ^d3
|vA2, ^d3
|P5
|P5
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|15/13
|15/13
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|vm3
|vm3
|m6
|m6
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|7/6, 13/11
|7/6, 13/11
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|m3
|m3
|M6
|M6
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|6/5
|6/5
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|^m3
|^m3
|Sinth*
|Sinth*
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|17/14, 39/32
|17/14, 39/32
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|vM3
|vM3
|m7
|m7
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|11/9, 16/13
|11/9, 16/13
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|^M3
|^M3
|P8
|P8
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|9/7, 14/11
|9/7, 14/11
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|vA3, ^d4
|vA3, ^d4
|P1
|P1
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|13/10
|13/10
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|v4
|v4
|m2
|m2
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|21/16
|21/16
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|P4
|P4
|M2
|M2
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|4/3
|4/3
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|^4
|^4
|Serd*
|Serd*
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|15/11
|15/11
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|vA4
|vA4
|m3
|m3
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|11/8, 18/13
|11/8, 18/13
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|A4, vd5
|A4, vd5
|M3
|M3
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|7/5
|7/5
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|^A4, d5
|^A4, d5
|P4
|P4
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|10/7
|10/7
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|^d5
|^d5
|A4
|A4
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|16/11, 13/9
|16/11, 13/9
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|v5
|v5
|d5
|d5
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|22/15
|22/15
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|^5
|^5
|m6
|m6
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|32/21
|32/21
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|vA5, ^d6
|vA5, ^d6
|M6
|M6
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|20/13
|20/13
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|vm6
|vm6
|Sinth*
|Sinth*
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|14/9, 11/7
|14/9, 11/7
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|m6
|m6
|m7
|m7
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|8/5
|8/5
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|^m6
|^m6
|M7
|M7
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|18/11, 13/8
|18/11, 13/8
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|vM6
|vM6
|P8
|P8
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|28\17, 64/39
|28\17, 64/39
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|M6
|M6
|P1
|P1
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|5/3
|5/3
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|^M6
|^M6
|m2
|m2
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|12/7
|12/7
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|vA6, ^d7
|vA6, ^d7
|M2
|M2
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|26/15
|26/15
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|vm7
|vm7
|Serd*
|Serd*
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|7/4
|7/4
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|m7
|m7
|m3
|m3
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|16/9, 9/5
|16/9, 9/5
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|vM7
|vM7
|P4
|P4
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|11/6, 24/13, 13/7
|11/6, 24/13, 13/7
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|M7
|M7
|A4
|A4
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|15/8, 28/15
|15/8, 28/15
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|^M7
|^M7
|d5
|d5
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|16/11, 10/7
|16/11, 10/7
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|vA7, ^d8
|vA7, ^d8
|P5
|P5
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|3/2, 14/9, 32/21
|3/2, 14/9, 32/21
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|A7, v8
|A7, v8
|m6
|m6
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|63/32, 160/81
|63/32, 160/81
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|P8
|P8
|P8
|P8
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|2/1
|2/1
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Revision as of 21:27, 29 January 2019

Degree Cents Aaron's Answer Igs' Input Kite's Correction Keenan Category Margo's Method Piotr Grochowski, Extended meantone notation (named) SagiSpeak Ups and downs Gareth's Go Represented Ratios
0 0 P1 Unison Unison P1 Unison unison P1 P1 P1 1/1
1 27.907 m2 Subminor 2nd Subminor 2nd m2 Minor 2nd high unison, diminished second pai-P1 ^1, d2 m2 64/63, 81/80
2 55.814 NM2 (Narrow M2) Neutral 2nd Neutral 2nd M2 Large Neutral 2nd low augmented unison pao-M2 vA1, ^d2 M2 11/10, 12/11, 10/9
3 83.721 LM2 Supermajor 2nd Supermajor 2nd A2/d3 Large Major 2nd augmented unison M2 vm2 Serd* 8/7, 7/6, 9/8
4 111.628 Lm3 Minor 3rd Minor 3rd m3 Large Minor 3rd minor second pai-m3 m2 m3 17/16, 16/15, 15/14
5 139.535 M3 Major 3rd Major 3rd M3 Major 3rd low neutral second pao-M3 ^m2 M3 12/11, 13/12, 14/13
6 167.442 S4 (Small 4) Sub 4th Sub 4th P4 Small Perfect 4th high neutral second P4 vM2 P4 11/10
7 195.349 Na4/Sd5 Narrow Tritone Super 4th A4 Small Tritone major second pai-P4 M2 A4 9/8, 10/9
8 223.256 La4/Wd5 Wide Tritone Sub 5th d5 Large Tritone high major second pao-P5 ^M2 d5 8/7
9 251.163 L5 Super 5th Super 5th P5 Large Perfect 5th low augmented second, high diminished third P5 vA2, ^d3 P5 15/13
10 279.07 m6 Minor 6th Minor 6th m6 Minor 6th augmented second, low minor third pai-m6 vm3 m6 7/6, 13/11
11 306.977 SM6 Major 6th Major 6th M6 Small Major 6th minor third pao-M6 m3 M6 6/5
12 334.884 SM7 Subminor 7th Subminor 7th A6/d7 Small Minor 7th low neutral third m7 ^m3 Sinth* 17/14, 39/32
13 362.791 Wm7 Neutral 7th Neutral 7th m7 Small Neutral 7th high neutral third pai-m7 vM3 m7 11/9, 16/13
14 390.698 M7 Supermajor 7th Supermajor 7th M7 Major 7th major third pao-P8 M3 M7 5/4
15 418.605 P8 diminished fourth, high major third ^M3 P8 9/7, 14/11
16 446.512 P1 Unison Unison P1 Unison low augmented third, high diminished fourth P1 vA3, ^d4 P1 13/10
17 474.419 m2 Subminor 2nd Subminor 2nd m2 Minor 2nd augmented third, low fourth pai-P1 v4 m2 21/16
18 502.326 NM2 (Narrow M2) Neutral 2nd Neutral 2nd M2 Large Neutral 2nd fourth pao-M2 P4 M2 4/3
19 530.233 LM2 Supermajor 2nd Supermajor 2nd A2/d3 Large Major 2nd high fourth M2 ^4 Serd* 15/11
20 558.139 Lm3 Minor 3rd Minor 3rd m3 Large Minor 3rd low augmented fourth pai-m3 vA4 m3 11/8, 18/13
21 586.046 M3 Major 3rd Major 3rd M3 Major 3rd augmented fourth pao-M3 A4, vd5 M3 7/5
22 613.953 S4 (Small 4) Sub 4th Sub 4th P4 Small Perfect 4th diminished fifth P4 ^A4, d5 P4 10/7
23 641.86 Na4/Sd5 Narrow Tritone Super 4th A4 Small Tritone high diminished fifth pai-P4 ^d5 A4 16/11, 13/9
24 669.767 La4/Wd5 Wide Tritone Sub 5th d5 Large Tritone low fifth pao-P5 v5 d5 22/15
25 697.674 L5 Super 5th Super 5th P5 Large Perfect 5th fifth P5 P5 P5 3/2
26 725.581 m6 Minor 6th Minor 6th m6 Minor 6th diminished sixth, high fifth pai-m6 ^5 m6 32/21
27 753.488 SM6 Major 6th Major 6th M6 Small Major 6th augmented fifth, high diminished sixth pao-M6 vA5, ^d6 M6 20/13
28 781.395 SM7 Subminor 7th Subminor 7th A6/d7 Small Minor 7th low minor sixth m7 vm6 Sinth* 14/9, 11/7
29 809.302 Wm7 Neutral 7th Neutral 7th m7 Small Neutral 7th minor sixth pai-m7 m6 m7 8/5
30 837.209 M7 Supermajor 7th Supermajor 7th M7 Major 7th low neutral sixth pao-P8 ^m6 M7 18/11, 13/8
31 865.116 P8 Octave Octave P8 Octave high neutral sixth P8 vM6 P8 28\17, 64/39
32 893.023 P1 Unison Unison P1 Unison major sixth P1 M6 P1 5/3
33 920.93 m2 Subminor 2nd Subminor 2nd m2 Minor 2nd high major sixth pai-P1 ^M6 m2 12/7
34 948.837 NM2 (Narrow M2) Neutral 2nd Neutral 2nd M2 Large Neutral 2nd low augmented sixth, high diminished seventh pao-M2 vA6, ^d7 M2 26/15
35 976.744 LM2 Supermajor 2nd Supermajor 2nd A2/d3 Large Major 2nd low minor seventh, augmented sixth M2 vm7 Serd* 7/4
36 1004.651 Lm3 Minor 3rd Minor 3rd m3 Large Minor 3rd minor seventh pai-m3 m7 m3 16/9, 9/5
37 1032.558 M3 Major 3rd Major 3rd M3 Major 3rd low neutral seventh pao-M3 ^m7 M3 20/11
38 1060.465 S4 (Small 4) Sub 4th Sub 4th P4 Small Perfect 4th high neutral seventh P4 vM7 P4 11/6, 24/13, 13/7
39 1088.372 Na4/Sd5 Narrow Tritone Super 4th A4 Small Tritone major seventh pai-P4 M7 A4 15/8, 28/15
40 1116.279 La4/Wd5 Wide Tritone Sub 5th d5 Large Tritone diminished octave pao-P5 ^M7 d5 16/11, 10/7
41 1144.186 L5 Super 5th Super 5th P5 Large Perfect 5th high diminished octave P5 vA7, ^d8 P5 3/2, 14/9, 32/21
42 1172.093 m6 Minor 6th Minor 6th m6 Minor 6th low octave, augmented seventh pai-m6 A7, v8 m6 63/32, 160/81
43 1200 SM6 Octave Octave P8 Octave octave P8 P8 P8 2/1

*'Serd' and 'Sinth' are Portmanteaux of Second and Third; and Sixth and Seventh respectively. These intervals represent exact half Perfect 4ths and Perfect 5ths, and replace the "regular" interval name. I have put them in there to gain functionality at the cost of losing familiarity/introducing novelty in addition to 'HO', the half-octave. My (Gareth's) system at this stage is the same as Dave Keenan's but for the addition of these. I suppose they could just be optional additional names for those steps. I was led to this after not finding any reason to change Dave's system, but not liking that it led to A2/d3 for the 240c interval in 5n-edos, and A6/d7 for the 960c interval. Seems weird.

Sagi-Speak, Ups and Downs, and Colours are all great, but are completely new ideas that can be linked to on the pages. Sagi-Speak and Ups are directly linked to the two main options for notation.

I like Igs' and Dave's systems the best I think. They are very different. Both are 'size' based rather than 'function', but the point of reference for Igs' is 12edo, which would be more familiar to new readers. Dave's uses JI / 72edo alterations two short chains of the edos best fifth - giving the perfect and neutral intervals, so is malleable in its application to edos, and more able to reflect the 'function' of the intervals in an edo. I've added a few functional labels to it. Might be best to have those in brackets. At this stage I would like to see both on every edo page. Igs' has a point that his extra-diatonic names need not or perhaps should not be associated with ratios. Dave's on the other hand benefit from such an association. Perhaps an edo page could start with Igs' in the intervals section without ratios as he first edits, and in the temperament section Dave's names can be included.

I've done this for 72edo as well.