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=[[#Rank-2 scales that are neither MOS nor MODMOS]]**__Other rank-2 scales__**=  
=[[#Other rank-2 scales]]**__Other rank-2 scales__**=  


Some scales have too many or too few notes to be MOS or MODMOS. If they have an unbroken genchain, they can be named Meantone [6], Meantone [8], etc. Curly brackets could perhaps be used to distinguish them from MOS scales: Meantone {6} and Meantone {8}.
These are scales that are neither MOS nor MODMOS. Some scales have too many or too few notes. If they have an unbroken genchain, they can be named Meantone [6], Meantone [8], etc.


However chromatic alterations create genchains with gaps that are very difficult to name. These scales must be named as MOS scales with notes added or removed, using "add" and "no", analogous to chord names. As with MODMOS scales, there is often more than one name for a scale.
However if there are chromatic alterations, and the genchain has gaps, there's no clear way to number the notes, and no clear way to name the scale. Such a scale must be named as a MOS scale with notes added or removed, using "add" and "no", analogous to chord names. As with MODMOS scales, there is often more than one name for a scale.


|| scale || genchain || name || sMLX pattern ||
|| scale || genchain || name || sMLX pattern ||
|| octotonic: ||  ||  || (assumes 3/2 &lt; 700¢) ||
|| octotonic: ||  ||  || (assumes 3/2 &lt; 700¢) ||
|| C D E F F# G A B C || F __**C**__ G D A E B F# || C 2nd Meantone {8} || LLMs MLLM ||
|| C D E F F# G A B C || F __**C**__ G D A E B F# || C 2nd Meantone [8] || LLMs MLLM ||
||= " ||= " || C 2nd Meantone [7] add #4 || " ||
||= " ||= " || C 1st Meantone [7] add b4 * || " ||
|| C D E F F# G A Bb C || Bb F __**C**__ G D A E * F# || C 3rd Meantone [7] add #4 || LLMs MLML ||
|| C D E F F# G A Bb C || Bb F __**C**__ G D A E * F# || C 3rd Meantone [7] add #4 || LLMs MLML ||
|| A B C D D# E F G# A || F C * D __**A**__ E B * * G# D# || A 5th Meantone [7] #7 add #4 || LMLs MMXM ||
|| A B C D D# E F G# A || F C * D __**A**__ E B * * G# D# || A 5th Meantone [7] #7 add #4 || LMLs MMXM ||
|| A B C D D# E G# A || C * D __**A**__ E B * * G# D# || A 5th Meantone [7] #7 add #4 no6 || LMLs MXM ||
|| A B C D D# E G# A || C * D __**A**__ E B * * G# D# || A 5th Meantone [7] #7 add #4 no6 || LMLs MXM ||
|| nonotonic: ||  ||  ||   ||
|| nonotonic: ||  ||  || (X = extra large) ||
|| A B C# D D# E F# G G# A || G D __**A**__ E B F# C# G# D# || A 3rd Meantone {9} || LLMsM LMsM ||
|| A B C# D D# E F# G G# A || G D __**A**__ E B F# C# G# D# || A 3rd Meantone [9] || LLMsM LMsM ||
|| " || " || A 3rd Meantone [7] add #4, #7 || " ||
||= " ||= " || A 2nd Meantone [7] add #4, b7 || " ||
||= " ||= " || A 1st Meantone [7] add b4, b7 || " ||
|| A B C D D# E F G G# A || F C G D __**A**__ E B * * G# D# || A 5th Meantone [7] add #4, #7 || LMLsM MLsM ||
|| A B C D D# E F G G# A || F C G D __**A**__ E B * * G# D# || A 5th Meantone [7] add #4, #7 || LMLsM MLsM ||
|| hexatonic: ||  ||  ||  ||
|| hexatonic: ||  ||  ||  ||
|| F G A C D E F || __**F**__ C G D A E || F 1st Meantone {6} || MML MMs ||
|| F G A C D E F || __**F**__ C G D A E || F 1st Meantone [6] || MML MMs ||
|| " || " || F 2nd Meantone [7] no4 || " ||
||= " ||= " || F 1st Meantone [7] no4 || " ||
|| G A C D E F# G || C __**G**__ D A E * F# || G 2nd Meantone [7] no3 || MLM MMs ||
|| G A C D E F# G || C __**G**__ D A E * F# || G 2nd Meantone [7] no3 || MLM MMs ||
|| pentatonic: ||  ||  ||  ||
|| pentatonic: ||  ||  ||  ||
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||= " ||= " || F 1st Meantone [7] no4 no6 || " ||
||= " ||= " || F 1st Meantone [7] no4 no6 || " ||
|| A B C E F A || F C * * __**A**__ E B || A 5th Meantone [7] no4 no7 || MsL sL ||
|| A B C E F A || F C * * __**A**__ E B || A 5th Meantone [7] no4 no7 || MsL sL ||
* In the 3rd row, "add b4" means add a 4th flattened relative to the Lydian mode's 4th, not the perfect 4th.
The sML notation requires X = extra-large for various intervals.


Even 7-note scales can be non-MOS and non-MODMOS. For example, A C D D# E F G# A. The genchain is F C * D A E * * * G# D#. The name requires alterations, adds and drops: A 5th Meantone [7] #7 no2 add #4.
Even 7-note scales can be non-MOS and non-MODMOS. For example, A C D D# E F G# A. The genchain is F C * D A E * * * G# D#. The name requires alterations, adds and drops: A 5th Meantone [7] #7 no2 add #4.


Another category is scales that would be MOS, but the generator is too sharp or flat. For example, a genchain F C G D A E B of 8\13 fifths makes an out-of-order scale A C B D F E G A. This scale is best named as Meantone [5] with added notes: Which brings us to...
Another possibility is a scale that would be MOS, but the generator is too sharp or flat. For example, a genchain F C G D A E B of 8\13 fifths makes an out-of-order scale A C B D F E G A. This scale is best named as Meantone [5] with added notes: Which brings us to...




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Some scales have too many or too few notes to be MOS or MODMOS. If they have an unbroken genchain, they can be named Meantone [6], Meantone [8], etc. Curly brackets could perhaps be used to distinguish them from MOS scales: Meantone {6} and Meantone {8}.&lt;br /&gt;
These are scales that are neither MOS nor MODMOS. Some scales have too many or too few notes. If they have an unbroken genchain, they can be named Meantone [6], Meantone [8], etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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However chromatic alterations create genchains with gaps that are very difficult to name. These scales must be named as MOS scales with notes added or removed, using &amp;quot;add&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;no&amp;quot;, analogous to chord names. As with MODMOS scales, there is often more than one name for a scale.&lt;br /&gt;
However if there are chromatic alterations, and the genchain has gaps, there's no clear way to number the notes, and no clear way to name the scale. Such a scale must be named as a MOS scale with notes added or removed, using &amp;quot;add&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;no&amp;quot;, analogous to chord names. As with MODMOS scales, there is often more than one name for a scale.&lt;br /&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;A B C D D# E F G G# A&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;In the 3rd row, &amp;quot;add b4&amp;quot; means add a 4th flattened relative to the Lydian mode's 4th, not the perfect 4th.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The sML notation requires X = extra-large for various intervals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Even 7-note scales can be non-MOS and non-MODMOS. For example, A C D D# E F G# A. The genchain is F C * D A E * * * G# D#. The name requires alterations, adds and drops: A 5th Meantone [7] #7 no2 add #4.&lt;br /&gt;
Even 7-note scales can be non-MOS and non-MODMOS. For example, A C D D# E F G# A. The genchain is F C * D A E * * * G# D#. The name requires alterations, adds and drops: A 5th Meantone [7] #7 no2 add #4.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another category is scales that would be MOS, but the generator is too sharp or flat. For example, a genchain F C G D A E B of 8\13 fifths makes an out-of-order scale A C B D F E G A. This scale is best named as Meantone [5] with added notes: Which brings us to...&lt;br /&gt;
Another possibility is a scale that would be MOS, but the generator is too sharp or flat. For example, a genchain F C G D A E B of 8\13 fifths makes an out-of-order scale A C B D F E G A. This scale is best named as Meantone [5] with added notes: Which brings us to...&lt;br /&gt;
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