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This page lists a few elementary examples that hopefully shed some light on the philosophy (and the pitfalls!) of Sagittal notation. For a detailed introduction into Sagittal notation the document [[file:Sagittal.pdf|Sagittal.pdf]] is the reference.
This page lists a few elementary examples that hopefully shed some light on the philosophy (and the pitfalls!) of [[Sagittal notation]]. For a detailed introduction into Sagittal notation the document [[file:Sagittal.pdf|Sagittal.pdf]] is the reference.


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The second example shows the best approximation for the same chord in [[12edo]]. Here, both the syntonic as the septimal comma are tempered out, so none of the additional symbols is necessary. The best approximation of the otonal tetrad is the same as the best approximation for a Pythagorean dominant seventh chord and can be written the same way. We see that Sagittal notation, when used for the western standard tuning, is identical to conventioal notation.
The second example shows the best approximation for the same chord in [[12edo]]. Here, both the syntonic as the septimal comma are tempered out, so none of the additional symbols is necessary. The best approximation of the otonal tetrad is the same as the best approximation for a Pythagorean dominant seventh chord and can be written the same way. We see that Sagittal notation, when used for the western standard tuning, is identical to conventioal notation.
In [[22edo]] (third example), however, the septimal comma is tempered out, but not the syntonic comma. Therefore the symbol at the Bb note can be omitted, but the symbol at the E note must stay.


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This page lists a few elementary examples that hopefully shed some light on the philosophy (and the pitfalls!) of Sagittal notation. For a detailed introduction into Sagittal notation the document &lt;a href="/file/view/Sagittal.pdf/243193787/Sagittal.pdf" onclick="ws.common.trackFileLink('/file/view/Sagittal.pdf/243193787/Sagittal.pdf');"&gt;Sagittal.pdf&lt;/a&gt; is the reference.&lt;br /&gt;
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This page lists a few elementary examples that hopefully shed some light on the philosophy (and the pitfalls!) of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Sagittal%20notation"&gt;Sagittal notation&lt;/a&gt;. For a detailed introduction into Sagittal notation the document &lt;a href="/file/view/Sagittal.pdf/243193787/Sagittal.pdf" onclick="ws.common.trackFileLink('/file/view/Sagittal.pdf/243193787/Sagittal.pdf');"&gt;Sagittal.pdf&lt;/a&gt; is the reference.&lt;br /&gt;
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With the Sagittal symbos for these three commas, a scale consisting of the overtones 4 to 11 can be written as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
With the Sagittal symbos for these three commas, a scale consisting of the overtones 4 to 11 can be written as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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For a complete list of all comma symbols see &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://sagittal.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://sagittal.org/&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/file/view/Sagittal.pdf/243193787/Sagittal.pdf" onclick="ws.common.trackFileLink('http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/file/view/Sagittal.pdf/243193787/Sagittal.pdf');"&gt;sagittal.pdf&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
For a complete list of all comma symbols see &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://sagittal.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://sagittal.org/&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/file/view/Sagittal.pdf/243193787/Sagittal.pdf" onclick="ws.common.trackFileLink('http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/file/view/Sagittal.pdf/243193787/Sagittal.pdf');"&gt;sagittal.pdf&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Below is an example how the standard notation systems for some equal termperaments differ.&lt;br /&gt;
Below is an example how the standard notation systems for some equal termperaments differ.&lt;br /&gt;
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What is displayed is the tetrad consisting of the overtones 4 to 7 (respectively, in equal temperaments, of their approximations), a chord resembling a dominant seventh chord. First appears in mixed Sagittal notation for just intonation, with the syntonic comma symbol at the E note and the septimal vomma symbol at the Bb note.&lt;br /&gt;
What is displayed is the tetrad consisting of the overtones 4 to 7 (respectively, in equal temperaments, of their approximations), a chord resembling a dominant seventh chord. First appears in mixed Sagittal notation for just intonation, with the syntonic comma symbol at the E note and the septimal vomma symbol at the Bb note.&lt;br /&gt;
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The second example shows the best approximation for the same chord in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt;. Here, both the syntonic as the septimal comma are tempered out, so none of the additional symbols is necessary. The best approximation of the otonal tetrad is the same as the best approximation for a Pythagorean dominant seventh chord and can be written the same way. We see that Sagittal notation, when used for the western standard tuning, is identical to conventioal notation.&lt;br /&gt;
The second example shows the best approximation for the same chord in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt;. Here, both the syntonic as the septimal comma are tempered out, so none of the additional symbols is necessary. The best approximation of the otonal tetrad is the same as the best approximation for a Pythagorean dominant seventh chord and can be written the same way. We see that Sagittal notation, when used for the western standard tuning, is identical to conventioal notation.&lt;br /&gt;
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In &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt; (third example), however, the septimal comma is tempered out, but not the syntonic comma. Therefore the symbol at the Bb note can be omitted, but the symbol at the E note must stay.&lt;br /&gt;
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