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[[http://www.io.com/~hmiller/midi/canon-golden.mid|An acoustic experience]] - Kornerup himself had no chance to have it - is contained in the [[Warped canon]] collection. | [[http://www.io.com/~hmiller/midi/canon-golden.mid|An acoustic experience]] - Kornerup himself had no chance to have it - is contained in the [[Warped canon]] collection. | ||
[[@http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/692|Bach's Ricercar a 6 ]] - Tuned into golden meantone by Claudi Meneghin | [[@http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/692|Bach's Ricercar a 6 ]] - Tuned into golden meantone by [[Claudi Meneghin]] | ||
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<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.io.com/~hmiller/midi/canon-golden.mid" rel="nofollow">An acoustic experience</a> - Kornerup himself had no chance to have it - is contained in the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Warped%20canon">Warped canon</a> collection.<br /> | <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.io.com/~hmiller/midi/canon-golden.mid" rel="nofollow">An acoustic experience</a> - Kornerup himself had no chance to have it - is contained in the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Warped%20canon">Warped canon</a> collection.<br /> | ||
<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/692" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bach's Ricercar a 6 </a> - Tuned into golden meantone by Claudi Meneghin<br /> | <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/692" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bach's Ricercar a 6 </a> - Tuned into golden meantone by <a class="wiki_link" href="/Claudi%20Meneghin">Claudi Meneghin</a><br /> | ||
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**Golden Meantone** is based on making the relation between the whole tone and diatonic semitone intervals be the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio|Golden Ratio]]
[[math]]
\varphi = \frac 1 2 (\sqrt{5}+1) \approx 1.61803\,39887\ldots\,
[[math]]
This makes the Golden fifth exactly
[[math]]
(8 - \varphi) / 11
[[math]]
octave, or
[[math]]
(9600 - 1200 \varphi) / 11
[[math]]
cents, approximately 696.214 cents.
Edo systems in a Fibonacci style recurrence beginning with 7 and 12 are successively better approximations to this ideal.
==Construction==
If you use two neighboring numbers from the Fibonacci series 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21... you get the following approximations:
1, 1 -> [[7edo]]
1, 2 -> [[12edo]]
2, 3 -> [[19edo]]
3, 5 -> [[31edo]]
5, 8 -> [[50edo]]
8, 13 -> [[81edo]]
13, 21 -> [[131edo]]
==Evaluation==
Graham Breed [[http://x31eq.com/meantone.htm|writes]]: //I think of this as the standard melodic meantone because the all these ratios are the same. It has the mellow sound of 1/4 comma, but does still have a character of its own. Some algorithms make this almost exactly the optimum 5-limit tuning. It's fairly good as a 7-limit tuning as well. Almost the optimum (according to me) for diminished sevenths. I toyed with this as a guitar tuning, but rejected it because 4:6:9 chords aren't quite good enough. That is, the poor fifth leads to a sludgy major ninth.//
==Listening==
[[http://www.io.com/~hmiller/midi/canon-golden.mid|An acoustic experience]] - Kornerup himself had no chance to have it - is contained in the [[Warped canon]] collection.
[[@http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/692|Bach's Ricercar a 6 ]] - Tuned into golden meantone by [[Claudi Meneghin]]
==Additional reading==
[[@http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/g/golden.aspx|Golden meantone - Tonalsoft encyclopedia]]Original HTML content:
<html><head><title>Golden Meantone</title></head><body><strong>Golden Meantone</strong> is based on making the relation between the whole tone and diatonic semitone intervals be the <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio" rel="nofollow">Golden Ratio</a><br />
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\varphi = \frac 1 2 (\sqrt{5}+1) \approx 1.61803\,39887\ldots\,<br/>[[math]]
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This makes the Golden fifth exactly<br />
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(8 - \varphi) / 11<br/>[[math]]
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octave, or<br />
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(9600 - 1200 \varphi) / 11<br/>[[math]]
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cents, approximately 696.214 cents.<br />
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Edo systems in a Fibonacci style recurrence beginning with 7 and 12 are successively better approximations to this ideal.<br />
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:3:<h2> --><h2 id="toc0"><a name="x-Construction"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:3 -->Construction</h2>
If you use two neighboring numbers from the Fibonacci series 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21... you get the following approximations:<br />
1, 1 -> <a class="wiki_link" href="/7edo">7edo</a><br />
1, 2 -> <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12edo</a><br />
2, 3 -> <a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo">19edo</a><br />
3, 5 -> <a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo">31edo</a><br />
5, 8 -> <a class="wiki_link" href="/50edo">50edo</a><br />
8, 13 -> <a class="wiki_link" href="/81edo">81edo</a><br />
13, 21 -> <a class="wiki_link" href="/131edo">131edo</a><br />
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Graham Breed <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://x31eq.com/meantone.htm" rel="nofollow">writes</a>: <em>I think of this as the standard melodic meantone because the all these ratios are the same. It has the mellow sound of 1/4 comma, but does still have a character of its own. Some algorithms make this almost exactly the optimum 5-limit tuning. It's fairly good as a 7-limit tuning as well. Almost the optimum (according to me) for diminished sevenths. I toyed with this as a guitar tuning, but rejected it because 4:6:9 chords aren't quite good enough. That is, the poor fifth leads to a sludgy major ninth.</em><br />
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:7:<h2> --><h2 id="toc2"><a name="x-Listening"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:7 -->Listening</h2>
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<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.io.com/~hmiller/midi/canon-golden.mid" rel="nofollow">An acoustic experience</a> - Kornerup himself had no chance to have it - is contained in the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Warped%20canon">Warped canon</a> collection.<br />
<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/692" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bach's Ricercar a 6 </a> - Tuned into golden meantone by <a class="wiki_link" href="/Claudi%20Meneghin">Claudi Meneghin</a><br />
<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:9:<h2> --><h2 id="toc3"><a name="x-Additional reading"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:9 -->Additional reading</h2>
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