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: To be honest, I had completely forgotten that the community had discussed the "near-equivalent" version, as I more often think about it as "near-equal" anyway. We could mention "near-equal" in the History section, where it is explained that Zhea coined "neji". That said, since Zhea's meaning might still be in use, I would also include it at the top. For that matter, the page could do a better job at distinguishing the kind of nejis that qualify as near-equal and those that qualify as near-equivalent, but I'll leave it to others if they're interested. --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 15:37, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

:: "Near-equivalent JI" is a generalization of "near-equal JI" which is the reason that term was chosen; this is also justified by that technically "near-equal" doesn't tell you what it is nearly equal to, unless you interpret "near-equal" as meaning that the ''step sizes'' are "near-equal"; AFAIK that was originally the case so that aspect of the meaning could be included. But the generalization from "edos as targets" to "any tempered target" is very natural as far as I can tell. To me if any aspect is worth debating it's the terminology "harmodal" which was only added to preserve the historical colloquial meaning of "neji". --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 16:23, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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	: To be honest, I had completely forgotten that the community had discussed the "near-equivalent" version, as I more often think about it as "near-equal" anyway. We could mention "near-equal" in the History section, where it is explained that Zhea coined "neji". That said, since Zhea's meaning might still be in use, I would also include it at the top. For that matter, the page could do a better job at distinguishing the kind of nejis that qualify as near-equal and those that qualify as near-equivalent, but I'll leave it to others if they're interested. --[[User:Fredg999\|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999\|talk]]) 15:37, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		: To be honest, I had completely forgotten that the community had discussed the "near-equivalent" version, as I more often think about it as "near-equal" anyway. We could mention "near-equal" in the History section, where it is explained that Zhea coined "neji". That said, since Zhea's meaning might still be in use, I would also include it at the top. For that matter, the page could do a better job at distinguishing the kind of nejis that qualify as near-equal and those that qualify as near-equivalent, but I'll leave it to others if they're interested. --[[User:Fredg999\|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999\|talk]]) 15:37, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

			:: "Near-equivalent JI" is a generalization of "near-equal JI" which is the reason that term was chosen; this is also justified by that technically "near-equal" doesn't tell you what it is nearly equal to, unless you interpret "near-equal" as meaning that the ''step sizes'' are "near-equal"; AFAIK that was originally the case so that aspect of the meaning could be included. But the generalization from "edos as targets" to "any tempered target" is very natural as far as I can tell. To me if any aspect is worth debating it's the terminology "harmodal" which was only added to preserve the historical colloquial meaning of "neji". --[[User:Godtone\|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone\|talk]]) 16:23, 14 September 2024 (UTC)