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:: I answered this in Discord once. If you start with 17-limit JI, which is rank-7, it makes sense to reduce its rank from there by tempering out only the necessary commas that are pumped. Another good reason for such an approach is that it frees you from dealing with numerous uninteroperable subgroups. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 14:38, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

:: I discussed this with Fumica before at length in favour of using some sort of modifier for if you want the version which corresponds to the full-prime-limit rather than only the minimal prime subgroup necessary. The conclusion and compromise was that the convention should be "ismic" for the full-prime-limit version. The subgroup version, while it doesn't get the privilege of the slightly more normal-sounding name, does get the privilege of the shorter name suffix, "-ic". Hence "semitonismic" vs "semitonic" and "charismic" vs "charic". I'm fine with "charismic" for full-subgroup and "charic" for 2.3.5.17 as it emphasizes/puts focus on the word "char" as significant/important. To me, the best argument for the full-prime-limit option is that it allows a natural temperament to speak of if you are interested in demonstrating comma pumps of only one comma, in which case you want to tune everything as purely as possible and have as many options as possible for making the comma pump pretty. I think it is very important going forward though that the minimal prime subgroup version is always included. --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 16:50, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

: While y'all are talking over it, I should notify you that "charisma" was from Graham Breed in 2011: [https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_19166.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''A rose by any other name . . .'']. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 14:38, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

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 :: I answered this in Discord once. If you start with 17-limit JI, which is rank-7, it makes sense to reduce its rank from there by tempering out only the necessary commas that are pumped. Another good reason for such an approach is that it frees you from dealing with numerous uninteroperable subgroups. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 14:38, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
+:: I discussed this with Fumica before at length in favour of using some sort of modifier for if you want the version which corresponds to the full-prime-limit rather than only the minimal prime subgroup necessary. The conclusion and compromise was that the convention should be "ismic" for the full-prime-limit version. The subgroup version, while it doesn't get the privilege of the slightly more normal-sounding name, does get the privilege of the shorter name suffix, "-ic". Hence "semitonismic" vs "semitonic" and "charismic" vs "charic". I'm fine with "charismic" for full-subgroup and "charic" for 2.3.5.17 as it emphasizes/puts focus on the word "char" as significant/important. To me, the best argument for the full-prime-limit option is that it allows a natural temperament to speak of if you are interested in demonstrating comma pumps of only one comma, in which case you want to tune everything as purely as possible and have as many options as possible for making the comma pump pretty. I think it is very important going forward though that the minimal prime subgroup version is always included. --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 16:50, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 : While y'all are talking over it, I should notify you that "charisma" was from Graham Breed in 2011: [https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_19166.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''A rose by any other name . . .'']. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 14:38, 28 December 2023 (UTC)