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=== Cloudy scales ===
=== Cloudy scales ===
I don't know about you, but I love the seventh harmonic. The ''Cloudy Scale'' (named after its small interval, the [[cloudy comma]]) is a 5L6s [[MOS]] with [[7/4]] as the generator and [[2/1]] as the period.
I don't know about you, but I love the seventh harmonic. These scales are named after the [[cloudy comma]].
{| class="wikitable"
 
'''''Cumulus Alpha''''' is a 5L6s [[MOS]] with [[7/4]] as the generator and [[2/1]] as the period.
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible"
!Steps
!Steps
!Ratio
!Ratio
!Cents
|-
|-
|0
|0
|1/1
|1/1
|0.000
|-
|-
|1
|1
|16807/16384
|16807/16384
|43.130
|-
|-
|2
|2
|8/7
|8/7
|231.174
|-
|-
|3
|3
|2401/2048
|2401/2048
|275.304
|-
|-
|4
|4
|64/49
|64/49
|462.348
|-
|-
|5
|5
|343/256
|343/256
|506.478
|-
|-
|6
|6
|512/343
|512/343
|693.522
|-
|-
|7
|7
|49/32
|49/32
|737.652
|-
|-
|8
|8
|4096/2401
|4096/2401
|924.696
|-
|-
|9
|9
|7/4
|7/4
|968.826
|-
|-
|10
|10
|32768/16807
|32768/16807
|1155.870
|-
|-
|11
|11
|2/1
|2/1
|1200.000
|}
'''''Cumulus Beta''''' is an 4L5s MOS with [[7/6]] as the generator and [[2/1]] as the period. Amazingly, it approximates all intervals of [[9edo|9-EDO]] within a cent!
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible"
!Steps
!Ratio
!Cents
!9-EDO Difference
|-
|0
|1/1
|0.000
|0.000
|-
|1
|2592/2401
|132.516
| -0.817
|-
|2
|7/6
|266.871
|0.204
|-
|3
|432/343
|399.387
| -0.613
|-
|4
|49/36
|533.742
|0.409
|-
|5
|72/49
|666.258
| -0.409
|-
|6
|343/216
|800.613
|0.613
|-
|7
|12/7
|933.129
| -0.204
|-
|8
|2401/1296
|1067.484
|0.817
|-
|9
|7/4
|1200.000
|0.000
|}
'''''Cumulus Gamma''''' is an 3L5s MOS with [[9/7]] as the generator and [[2/1]] as the period. It appears to partially approximate [[11edo|11-EDO]].
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible"
!Steps
!Ratio
!Cents
!Approx. 11-EDO Degree
|-
|0
|1/1
|0.000
|0
|-
|1
|729/686
|105.252
|1
|-
|2
|98/81
|329.832
|3
|-
|3
|9/7
|435.084
|4
|-
|4
|6561/4802
|540.336
|5
|-
|5
|14/9
|764.916
|7
|-
|6
|81/49
|870.168
|8
|-
|7
|1372/729
|1094.748
|10
|-
|8
|2/1
|1200.000
|11
|}
|}

Revision as of 19:15, 19 May 2023

Hello! My name is Andrew and I like screwing around with xenharmony, especially notation.

Currently experimenting with anti-diatonic stuff like EDOs 9, 11, 13, 16, and 23.

I have a website!!

An idea for notation I had

Something I noticed in regular EDO notation, using Pythagorean names, is that the major third in a lot of temperaments is no longer the closest the EDO has to the just major third 5/4. So, with some thought from Just Intonation notations, I came up with something that I think might be promising.

In essence, instead of solely relying on Pythaogrean names and arrows for edosteps in between (which can get unwieldy in larger EDOs), I considered making the arrow represent the syntonic comma instead. If your EDO has a different pitch for the just major third and the Pythagorean major third, then of course, it has syntonic comma that hasn't been tempered out. This won't change anything for EDOs with a syntonic comma less than or equal to one step, of course, but it could have an effect on even "sharper" systems like 37-EDO.

For single edosteps, we can instead use a sort of slash-like symbol Bosanquet used in his notation, and perhaps stack them on top of each other to use less horizontal space.

Here's a full example in 37-EDO:

Steps Pythagorean notation Old notation New notation
0 D D D
1 Eb Eb Eb
2 Fb ^Eb ^D
3 Gbb ^^Eb ^Eb
4 Bx vvD# vD#
5 Cx vD# vE
6 D# D# D#
7 E E E
8 F F F
9 Gb Gb Gb
10 Abb ^Gb ^F
11 Bbbb ^^Gb ^Gb
12 Dx vvF# vF#
13 E# vF# vG
14 F# F# F#
15 G G G
16 Ab Ab Ab
17 Bbb ^Ab ^G
18 Cbb ^^Ab ^Ab
19 Ex vvG# vG#
20 Fx vG# vA
21 G# G# G#
22 A A A
23 Bb Bb Bb
24 Cb ^Bb ^A
25 Dbb ^^Bb vBb
26 F#x vvA# ^A#
27 Gx vA# vB
28 A# A# A#
29 B B B
30 C C C
31 Db Db Db
32 Ebb ^Db ^C
33 Fbb ^^Db ^Db
34 Ax vvC# vC#
35 B# vC# vD
36 C# C# C#
37 D D D

And for anti-diatonic systems, use x and y instead of ^ and v, using harmonic notation.

An example in 13-EDO:

Steps Pythagorean/old notation 26-EDO Subset New notation
0 D D D
1 E Dx, Ebb E, xC
2 Eb E Eb, xD
3 Fx Ex, Fb xE, yF
4 F# F# F#, yG
5 F Gb F, yA
6 G G# G, yB
7 A Ab A, xF
8 B A# B, xG
9 Bb Bb Bb, xA
10 Cx B# xB, yC
11 C# C C#, yD
12 C Cx, Dbb C, yE
13 D D D

Cloudy scales

I don't know about you, but I love the seventh harmonic. These scales are named after the cloudy comma.

Cumulus Alpha is a 5L6s MOS with 7/4 as the generator and 2/1 as the period.

Steps Ratio Cents
0 1/1 0.000
1 16807/16384 43.130
2 8/7 231.174
3 2401/2048 275.304
4 64/49 462.348
5 343/256 506.478
6 512/343 693.522
7 49/32 737.652
8 4096/2401 924.696
9 7/4 968.826
10 32768/16807 1155.870
11 2/1 1200.000

Cumulus Beta is an 4L5s MOS with 7/6 as the generator and 2/1 as the period. Amazingly, it approximates all intervals of 9-EDO within a cent!

Steps Ratio Cents 9-EDO Difference
0 1/1 0.000 0.000
1 2592/2401 132.516 -0.817
2 7/6 266.871 0.204
3 432/343 399.387 -0.613
4 49/36 533.742 0.409
5 72/49 666.258 -0.409
6 343/216 800.613 0.613
7 12/7 933.129 -0.204
8 2401/1296 1067.484 0.817
9 7/4 1200.000 0.000

Cumulus Gamma is an 3L5s MOS with 9/7 as the generator and 2/1 as the period. It appears to partially approximate 11-EDO.

Steps Ratio Cents Approx. 11-EDO Degree
0 1/1 0.000 0
1 729/686 105.252 1
2 98/81 329.832 3
3 9/7 435.084 4
4 6561/4802 540.336 5
5 14/9 764.916 7
6 81/49 870.168 8
7 1372/729 1094.748 10
8 2/1 1200.000 11